Branson may have ignored warnings about the safety of his cheezy rocket.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:32:44 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote:

By definition a fiscal conservative must want to keep taxes the same
(conserve them).

By whose definition? I would define a fiscal conservative as someone
who believes the government should only have a limited role in
managing the economy, and who believes that it should operate in a
fiscally responsible manner.

There is nothing in fiscal conservatism that automatically requires
taxes be low, or that the tax system can't change.

Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:32:44 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote:

By definition a fiscal conservative must want to keep taxes the same
(conserve them).

By whose definition? I would define a fiscal conservative as someone
who believes the government should only have a limited role in
managing the economy, and who believes that it should operate in a
fiscally responsible manner.

There is nothing in fiscal conservatism that automatically requires
taxes be low, or that the tax system can't change.

noun
1.
a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
"he remains a conservative in constitutional matters"
synonyms: right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard; More
2.
a supporter or member of the Conservative Party of Great Britain or a
similar party elsewhere.

On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:27:15 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote:

There is nothing in fiscal conservatism that automatically requires
taxes be low, or that the tax system can't change.

noun
1.
a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
"he remains a conservative in constitutional matters"
synonyms: right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard; More
2.
a supporter or member of the Conservative Party of Great Britain or a
similar party elsewhere.

So like I said, there is nothing in fiscal conservatism that
automatically requires taxes be low, or that the tax system can't
change.

There is a difference between generally favoring the status quo and
totally rejecting any change.

Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:27:15 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote:

There is nothing in fiscal conservatism that automatically requires
taxes be low, or that the tax system can't change.

noun
1.
a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
"he remains a conservative in constitutional matters"
synonyms: right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard; More
2.
a supporter or member of the Conservative Party of Great Britain or a
similar party elsewhere.

So like I said, there is nothing in fiscal conservatism that
automatically requires taxes be low, or that the tax system can't
change.

There is a difference between generally favoring the status quo and
totally rejecting any change.

A conservative doesn't want change.
A fiscal conservative should not want to change taxes.
That's why the old Communists in the era of Glasnost were referred to as
conservatives.

On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote:

A conservative doesn't want change.

A conservative generally prefers the status quo. I doubt that anybody
who self-identifies as a conservative is universally opposed to
change. And of course, "conservative" doesn't just mean resistant to
change, it also means not changing too quickly or too radically, and
it means supporting limited or moderate government involvement in
numerous areas.

It doesn't do a lot of good to so narrowly define a word that it no
longer represents reality!

On Friday, November 28, 2014 5:33:01 PM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote:
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:21:27 PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:03:10 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

Then reduce the "cost of services" by eliminating those services not
spelled out in the Constitution.

That certainly would not lead to what I'd consider a good society.

What you consider a "good society" is irrelevant and you are not a fiscal conservative.

By definition a fiscal conservative must want to keep taxes the same
(conserve them).
Since you both want to change your tax system you are not conservatives but
radicals.

"Conservative" in the American dialect means or describes, broadly, someone who believes in having a small federal government that does only what is specified in the US Constitution, and having local governments that do not intrude unduly into the affairs and business of private citizens.

That is NOT what peterson generally seems to support.

A "fiscal conservative" would not consider a confiscatory tax on the rich to be appropriate. peterson seems to believe in such a confiscatory tax.

Verdict: peterson is not a fiscal conservative, no matter how much he bleats that he is.

BTW, there is nothing "radical" about a conservative wanting to replace the IRS and the income tax with something that's actually sensible.