NASA's Remembrance Day

Dear bob haller safety advocate:

On Jan 30, 11:08*am, bob haller safety advocate
wrote:
....
I do support putting ALL the shuttle $$$ into a
aggresive robotics program with artificial
intelligence. To make those probes and rovers
self sufficent!

We aren't going to be able to do any better managing robots, or
teaching them to manage themselves, any better than we do ourselves.

If Man doesn't do the job, then it is not valued and it is not
enough. No dollars spent on the space program ever leave the Earth.
It isn't about the money, but the faith, the will.

David A. Smith

On Jan 30, 1:56�pm, dlzc wrote:
Dear bob haller safety advocate:

On Jan 30, 11:08�am, bob haller safety advocate
wrote:
...

I do support putting ALL the shuttle $$$ into a
aggresive robotics program with artificial
intelligence. To make those probes and rovers
self sufficent!

We aren't going to be able to do any better managing robots, or
teaching them to manage themselves, any better than we do ourselves.

If Man doesn't do the job, then it is not valued and it is not
enough. �No dollars spent on the space program ever leave the Earth.
It isn't about the money, but the faith, the will.

David A. Smith

you know its possible america could again be the world leader in
something other than importing everything it needs.

we could become the world leader in robotics and artifial
intelligence

Pour the existing shuttle money ito this, but rater than give away the
rights to technology...... NASA would license them with 100% of the $$
going back into space exploration Over time NASA funding would
grow as a trust fund.

Make it apply to ISS devlopments too, in the now unlikely event
anything usefuul comes from ISS

THINK OUT OF THE BOX the box isnt your friend!

On Jan 30, 11:44*am, dlzc wrote:

The external tank was painted in the initial missions. *The decision
not to paint it, saved significant payload weight, but also allowed
frost to stay adhered longer, carrying insulating foam with it.


Wrong, painting it is not a fix. It would not have prevented the
Colombia accident

On Jan 30, 1:53*pm, dlzc wrote:


The frost did not penetrate the paint to any significant extent. *This
means it could shear off at lower speeds.


Wrong, frost does not "penetrate" the foam. The foam came of because
of voids in the foam.

On Jan 30, 7:00�pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
dlzc wrote:
We aren't going to be able to do any better managing robots, or
teaching them to manage themselves, any better than we do ourselves.

Just Watch Syfy's "Caprica"; the trouble is already starting. ;-)

Pat

Werll spirit and opportunity certinally EXCEEDED all expectations.

Now grow incrementally from there

Dear Me:

On Jan 30, 2:04*pm, Me wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:53*pm, dlzc wrote:

The frost did not penetrate the paint to any
significant extent. *This means it could shear
off at lower speeds.

Wrong, frost does not "penetrate" the foam. *The
foam came of because of voids in the foam.

What are you trying to say?

The paint sealed the surface of the foam. Now what do you want to say
that is obviated by the specifications?

David A. Smith

Dear bob haller safety advocate:

On Jan 30, 3:06*pm, bob haller safety advocate
wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:00 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:

dlzc wrote:
We aren't going to be able to do any better
managing robots, or teaching them to manage
themselves, any better than we do ourselves.

Just Watch Syfy's "Caprica"; the trouble is
already starting. ;-)

Werll spirit and opportunity certinally EXCEEDED
all expectations.

Now grow incrementally from there

Exceeded the "mechanical" specifications. They were not autonomous.
They drove the course we told them, and they sat and spun wheels until
we got an update that said they had no traction.

David A. Smith

Dear bob haller safety advocate:

On Jan 30, 12:16*pm, bob haller safety advocate
wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:56 pm, dlzc wrote:
On Jan 30, 11:08 am, bob haller safety advocate
wrote:
...

I do support putting ALL the shuttle $$$ into a
aggresive robotics program with artificial
intelligence. To make those probes and rovers
self sufficent!

We aren't going to be able to do any better
managing robots, or teaching them to manage
themselves, any better than we do ourselves.

If Man doesn't do the job, then it is not valued
and it is not enough. No dollars spent on the
space program ever leave the Earth. It isn't
about the money, but the faith, the will.

you know its possible america could again be
the world leader in something other than
importing everything it needs.

It won't happen preaching from the sofa, or guiding bombers or rovers
from a control room.

we could become the world leader in robotics
and artifial intelligence

.... or spelling.

Pour the existing shuttle money ito this, but
rater than give away the rights to technology......
NASA would license them with 100% of the $$
going back into space exploration Over time
NASA funding would grow as a trust fund.

Better still, pave the roads in Afganistan, then get out. *Then*
devote that money to making a frontier, rather than chewing the same
ground.

Make it apply to ISS devlopments too, in the
now unlikely event anything usefuul comes from
ISS

Cooperation is never a lost cause. Let's capture Apophis, and make it
a space base... compete with radiation shielding.

THINK OUT OF THE BOX the box isnt your friend!

Get off the sofa, out of the control room, and explore.

David A. Smith

Werll spirit and opportunity certinally EXCEEDED
all expectations.

Now grow incrementally from there

Exceeded the "mechanical" specifications. �They were not autonomous.
They drove the course we told them, and they sat and spun wheels until
we got an update that said they had no traction.

David A. Smith

Thats where artifical intelligence comes in

Shall we follow the worlds lead OR BE THE WORLDS LEADER?

It may have sealed the surface of the foam, it didn't fill the voids in the
foam.

The voids still existed with or without the paint.



--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.
"dlzc" wrote in message
...
Dear Me:

On Jan 30, 2:04 pm, Me wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:53 pm, dlzc wrote:

The frost did not penetrate the paint to any
significant extent. This means it could shear
off at lower speeds.

Wrong, frost does not "penetrate" the foam. The
foam came of because of voids in the foam.

What are you trying to say?

The paint sealed the surface of the foam. Now what do you want to say
that is obviated by the specifications?

David A. Smith