Large SRB test site in Florida

On Dec 4, 8:48*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Dec 3, 10:33*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

a statement mentioning the cemetary

There are many places that not structurally safe, or have collected
pockets of intense radiation. There are places where no one dares to
go, not even scientists with protective gear. One such place is the
Red Wood forest and another is the Ghost Town Cemetary. The relatives
of the people who are buried there can not visit, because in addition
to people, much of the radioctive graphite nuclear core is buried
there. It is one of the most toxic places on earth.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl...chapter11.html

She was a fraud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Filatova

wether or not she biked all thru the area all by herself, does not
change the content of whats happened there or how it looks
currently....

No, but relying on her for that content is rather silly, given that
the very premise she starts from is fraudulent.



plus her website has been up a long time, but only recently did they
begin tourist visits..

Bull****.



and just for curosity she took her bike with her on the tour bus? how
strange......

And just for curiosity you think photos can't be posed after the fact?
How stupid.......

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2004/0...true-thing.asp

But I know trying to inject reality into BobbertWorld won't work....

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
*soul with evil."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates

the content on her site appears the same as all other reports of the
chernobyl area, which could occur here in the US...

plants have tech troubles, controllers make mistakes and BWR reactors
with elevated storage pools are just dumb...

just a few years ago the shippingport plants near pittsburgh were
found having design defects, fortunately they never caused a
disaster......

and storage pools that arent in contaminent should be illegal......

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:25:37 PM UTC-5, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:



On Dec 4, 8:48�am, Fred J. McCall wrote:

bob haller wrote:

On Dec 3, 10:33�pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

bob haller wrote:



a statement mentioning the cemetary



There are many places that not structurally safe, or have collected

pockets of intense radiation. There are places where no one dares to

go, not even scientists with protective gear. One such place is the

Red Wood forest and another is the Ghost Town Cemetary. The relatives

of the people who are buried there can not visit, because in addition

to people, much of the radioctive graphite nuclear core is buried

there. It is one of the most toxic places on earth.



http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl...chapter11.html



She was a fraud.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Filatova



wether or not she biked all thru the area all by herself, does not

change the content of whats happened there or how it looks

currently....



No, but relying on her for that content is rather silly, given that

the very premise she starts from is fraudulent.



plus her website has been up a long time, but only recently did they

begin tourist visits..



Bull****.



and just for curosity she took her bike with her on the tour bus? how

strange......



And just for curiosity you think photos can't be posed after the fact?

How stupid.......



http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2004/0...true-thing.asp



But I know trying to inject reality into BobbertWorld won't work....





the content on her site appears the same as all other reports of the

chernobyl area, which could occur here in the US...





1) It appears the same TO YOU. But then, you're a recognized loon and

f*cking moron.



2) No, it couldn't occur here.





plants have tech troubles, controllers make mistakes and BWR reactors

with elevated storage pools are just dumb...





I'm pretty sure Chernobyl wasn't a GE reactor.





just a few years ago the shippingport plants near pittsburgh were

found having design defects, fortunately they never caused a

disaster......





What design flaws?





and storage pools that arent in contaminent should be illegal......





Why? You realize that the elevated storage pools you hate so much ARE

in containment and that the in ground 'safer' ones usually are not,

right?



--

"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is

only stupid."

-- Heinrich Heine

I think Bob is clearly out of his element here. One question though? Chernobyl surely wasn't a GE reactor, of course. But wasn't one of the major faults with Chernobyl the lack of a containment dome of any sort?

Reported on the news shippingport had backup power issues that werent
obvious, cutting backup power to hours rather than days, althoughI
dont remember the details......

they claimed if chernobly had been in containment it wouldnt of
leaked... judging by governments minimizing nuke power plant troubles
it probably would of leaked, perhaps so many wouldnt of died dumping
stuff on top of the reactor to slow the loss. let alone the
liquidators who died in the clean up and demo in the effected areas.
USSR published a very low death rate that was a attempt to look
better, while the death rate was much higher

In article 71d85c3f-ac50-4eb9-89f2-
, says...

Reported on the news shippingport had backup power issues that werent
obvious, cutting backup power to hours rather than days, althoughI
dont remember the details......

they claimed if chernobly had been in containment it wouldnt of
leaked... judging by governments minimizing nuke power plant troubles
it probably would of leaked, perhaps so many wouldnt of died dumping
stuff on top of the reactor to slow the loss. let alone the
liquidators who died in the clean up and demo in the effected areas.
USSR published a very low death rate that was a attempt to look
better, while the death rate was much higher

Lack of any actual cite noted. We're not bloody likely to take your
word for this, considering you are not an expert on nuclear power
plants.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Dec 6, 9:06*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 71d85c3f-ac50-4eb9-89f2-
, says...



Reported on the news shippingport had backup power issues that werent
obvious, cutting backup power to hours rather than days, althoughI
dont remember the details......

they claimed if chernobly had been in containment it wouldnt of
leaked... judging by governments minimizing nuke power plant troubles
it probably would of leaked, perhaps so many wouldnt of died dumping
stuff on top of the reactor to slow the loss. let alone the
liquidators who died in the clean up and demo in the effected areas.
USSR published a very low death rate that was a attempt to look
better, while the death rate was much higher

Lack of any actual cite noted. *We're not bloody likely to take your
word for this, considering you are not an expert on nuclear power
plants.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

so go look it up, i am not your research assistant. theres lots of
info out there

In article 099c9712-1e31-4573-8d38-b049f3465211
@r6g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 6, 9:06*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 71d85c3f-ac50-4eb9-89f2-
, says...



Reported on the news shippingport had backup power issues that werent
obvious, cutting backup power to hours rather than days, althoughI
dont remember the details......

they claimed if chernobly had been in containment it wouldnt of
leaked... judging by governments minimizing nuke power plant troubles
it probably would of leaked, perhaps so many wouldnt of died dumping
stuff on top of the reactor to slow the loss. let alone the
liquidators who died in the clean up and demo in the effected areas.
USSR published a very low death rate that was a attempt to look
better, while the death rate was much higher

Lack of any actual cite noted. *We're not bloody likely to take your
word for this, considering you are not an expert on nuclear power
plants.

so go look it up, i am not your research assistant. theres lots of
info out there

You clearly made the claims, you provide the cite. I'm not *your*
research assistant. Specifically, I want to know what good a
containment structure surrounding a graphite moderated reactor would do
in the same situation Chernobyl faced.

The Chernobyl core was on fire. Trying to contain the combustion
products of a huge hunk of super hot graphite in a pressure vessel like
a nuclear reactor containment structure would seem to be a losing
proposition. Pressure vessels go "boom" when the pressure exceeds their
design limits. Every structural engineer knows that, because of the
engineering and operational history of boilers. We're taught these
things in university you know.

The ball is in your court.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer