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Old May 16th 16, 01:22 AM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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The size of anything we put in orbit, depends upon the cost and capacity of our launch systems. There is one exception to this rule. Namely, if we can recycle the space debris left on orbit over the past sixty years.

Humanity has over the past sixty years have spent $1.2 trillion putting up 23,000 objects in permanent orbit massing 6,300 metric tons.

http://qz.com/296941/interactive-gra...rbiting-earth/

A tether technology that uses a solar panel to power a long conductive cable on a satellite has been developed that can be used to interact with the Earth's magnetic field so that it can enter ANY orbit below twice that of Geosynchronous Orbit to match ANY satellite's orbit, and collect that satellite, and return it to ANY OTHER orbit desired around Earth, and deposited there, WITHOUT THE USE OF PROPELLANTS.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/_docs...3%20Report.pdf

https://www.wpi.edu/Pubs/E-project/A...ethers_IQP.pdf

The 6,300 tonnes of materials collected in this way, may be processed into new satellites using the old satellites and components as raw materials. This is 14x the mass of the International Space Station's 450 tons.

http://sbir.nasa.gov/SBIR/abstracts/...5.01-9108.html

http://link.springer.com/article/10....0323920#page-1

Solar pumped thin disk lasers are used to volatilize old satellite parts into ion streams that are then deposited in a structured way to additively manufacture any part or component desired! The only thing that's needed are the people and the organic materials needed to support them on board the station.

At 25 tons per person, a 6300 ton station houses 252 persons.

Interesting to note this is about the size of the fictional Space Station V - visited by Dr. Heywood Floyd in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20091214012911

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20091214021126

Space Station V (fictional)

Diameter~300 m (984 ft)
Height ~150 m (495 ft) along rotational axis
Average speed ~17,500 mph (5 miles/ second or 7823 metres/ second)
Orbital Period 91 minutes
Rotational Period 61 seconds
Altitude ~210 miles
Era(s) 2001: A Space Odyssey
Affiliation USA; USSR; Hilton Hotels

This is 6.3x larger than the largest plan space base in US history;

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spaebase.htm




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Old May 17th 16, 04:01 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:27:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
According to:

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...urce= yahoo-2

"Moving day is fast approaching. Sometime in 2023 or 2024, the Russians have
said they will abandon the International Space Station. Assuming they carry
through on this plan, detaching their modules from ISS and using them to build
an all-Russian station, the station could soon become uninhabitable."


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Also:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ch...-idUSKCN0XI07Y

Quote:

"China will launch a "core module" for its first space station some time around
2018, a senior official told the state-run Xinhua news agency on Thursday, part
of a plan to have a permanent manned space station in service around 2022."


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So, in the future, we'll have a Chinese, a Russian and maybe a commercial U.S.
Space Station in orbit?

When will we see a spinning Station that can provide artificial gravity?


cleaning orbital debris o fall types could prevent space arund earth from becoming useless........

that would be good even if the materials are just burned up on re entry
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Old May 17th 16, 07:34 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Tensegrity Approaches to In-Space Construction of a 1g Growable Habitat:

"NASA NIAC has funded a proposal that seeks to design a rotating habitat with a
robotic system that constructs the structure and provides a habitat growth
capability.

The tensegrity technology allows minimum mass of both the habitat and the robotic
system. This proposal solves three unsolved space travel problems:

a) growth,
b) radiation protection, and
c) gravity."

See:

http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/05/ten...-in-space.html


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Old May 18th 16, 10:36 AM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 3:01:21 PM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:27:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
According to:

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...urce= yahoo-2

"Moving day is fast approaching. Sometime in 2023 or 2024, the Russians have
said they will abandon the International Space Station. Assuming they carry
through on this plan, detaching their modules from ISS and using them to build
an all-Russian station, the station could soon become uninhabitable."


=================================


Also:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ch...-idUSKCN0XI07Y

Quote:

"China will launch a "core module" for its first space station some time around
2018, a senior official told the state-run Xinhua news agency on Thursday, part
of a plan to have a permanent manned space station in service around 2022."


=================================


So, in the future, we'll have a Chinese, a Russian and maybe a commercial U.S.
Space Station in orbit?

When will we see a spinning Station that can provide artificial gravity?


cleaning orbital debris o fall types could prevent space arund earth from becoming useless........

that would be good even if the materials are just burned up on re entry


Yes, but recycling into new spacecraft, or built into a large space station, would be worthwhile too.

 




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