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Old May 16th 09, 02:43 AM posted to sci.astro
Yousuf Khan
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Default "Supergiant" asteroid shut down Mars' magnetic field, but "dryness"shut down Venus'

Sometimes you wish people would just get their stories straight
sometime. According to this theory, Mars' magnetic field got shut down
by a supergiant asteroid hitting it, probably about the size of Texas.

So why didn't something like that shut down Earth's magnetic field?
Well, because you'd need an even bigger asteroid to affect the Earth.
Well, isn't the leading theory of how the Moon formed, that a
planetesimal the size of Mars itself hit the Earth? Wouldn't that be
even bigger than a Texas sized asteroid? No answer.

Then the most ludicrous one is the explanation about Venus. So why
doesn't Venus have a magnetic field? Well its mantle is too dry and
stiff to allow for a dynamo effect! So why is Venus's mantle so stiff
and dry? Is it because Venus's water disappeared, that's why it's so dry
in its mantle? If it had a magnetic field it wouldn't have lost its
water, and if it had water, it would've had a magnetic field.

Anyways, you can read about it he

"Supergiant" Asteroid Shut Down Mars's Magnetic Field
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...steroid_2.html
Fri May 15 2009 16:09:31 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 16th 09, 04:27 AM posted to sci.astro
N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)[_471_]
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Default "Supergiant" asteroid shut down Mars' magnetic field, but "dryness" shut down Venus'

Dear Yousuf Khan:

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
...
Sometimes you wish people would just get their
stories straight sometime. According to this theory,
Mars' magnetic field got shut down by a supergiant
asteroid hitting it, probably about the size of Texas.


Hit a magnet with a hammer, and you risk demagnetizing it.

So why didn't something like that shut down
Earth's magnetic field?


Liquid, differentially rotating, core.

Well, because you'd need an even bigger asteroid
to affect the Earth. Well, isn't the leading theory
of how the Moon formed, that a planetesimal the
size of Mars itself hit the Earth? Wouldn't that be even bigger
than a Texas sized asteroid? No answer.


Use your head.

Then the most ludicrous one is the explanation
about Venus. So why doesn't Venus have a
magnetic field? Well its mantle is too dry and stiff to allow
for a dynamo effect! So why is Venus's
mantle so stiff and dry? Is it because Venus's water
disappeared, that's why it's so dry in its mantle? If it
had a magnetic field it wouldn't have lost its water,
and if it had water, it would've had a magnetic field.


We still haven't gotten off this planet. Enjoy the conundra
while you can. Obviously, Venus does not have Earth's history.

Anyways, you can read about it he

"Supergiant" Asteroid Shut Down Mars's Magnetic Field
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...steroid_2.html
Fri May 15 2009 16:09:31 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)


David A. Smith


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Old May 16th 09, 05:09 AM posted to sci.astro
BradGuth
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Default "Supergiant" asteroid shut down Mars' magnetic field, but"dryness" shut down Venus'

On May 15, 6:43*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Sometimes you wish people would just get their stories straight
sometime. According to this theory, Mars' magnetic field got shut down
by a supergiant asteroid hitting it, probably about the size of Texas.

So why didn't something like that shut down Earth's magnetic field?
Well, because you'd need an even bigger asteroid to affect the Earth.
Well, isn't the leading theory of how the Moon formed, that a
planetesimal the size of Mars itself hit the Earth? Wouldn't that be
even bigger than a Texas sized asteroid? No answer.

Then the most ludicrous one is the explanation about Venus. So why
doesn't Venus have a magnetic field? Well its mantle is too dry and
stiff to allow for a dynamo effect! So why is Venus's mantle so stiff
and dry? Is it because Venus's water disappeared, that's why it's so dry
in its mantle? If it had a magnetic field it wouldn't have lost its
water, and if it had water, it would've had a magnetic field.

Anyways, you can read about it he

"Supergiant" Asteroid Shut Down Mars's Magnetic Fieldhttp://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090511-mars-asteroid_...
Fri May 15 2009 16:09:31 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

* * * * Yousuf Khan


The planet Venus is perhaps billions of years less old than Eden/
Earth. Venus is hot primarily from the inside out. Venus may have
lost its moon.

~ BG
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Old May 16th 09, 05:16 PM posted to sci.astro
Yousuf Khan
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Default "Supergiant" asteroid shut down Mars' magnetic field, but "dryness"shut down Venus'

N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
Dear Yousuf Khan:

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
...
Sometimes you wish people would just get their
stories straight sometime. According to this theory,
Mars' magnetic field got shut down by a supergiant
asteroid hitting it, probably about the size of Texas.


Hit a magnet with a hammer, and you risk demagnetizing it.


That'll work with a permanent magnet, but not an electromagnet. I'd say
a planet is closer to an electromagnet than a permanent magnet.

So why didn't something like that shut down
Earth's magnetic field?


Liquid, differentially rotating, core.


Which apparently both Mars and Venus had at one point too, just like the
Earth.

Well, because you'd need an even bigger asteroid
to affect the Earth. Well, isn't the leading theory
of how the Moon formed, that a planetesimal the
size of Mars itself hit the Earth? Wouldn't that be even bigger
than a Texas sized asteroid? No answer.


Use your head.


Elaborate.

Then the most ludicrous one is the explanation
about Venus. So why doesn't Venus have a
magnetic field? Well its mantle is too dry and stiff to allow
for a dynamo effect! So why is Venus's
mantle so stiff and dry? Is it because Venus's water
disappeared, that's why it's so dry in its mantle? If it
had a magnetic field it wouldn't have lost its water,
and if it had water, it would've had a magnetic field.


We still haven't gotten off this planet. Enjoy the conundra
while you can. Obviously, Venus does not have Earth's history.


Even after we get off this planet, we still would have a ways to go
before we can go back in history.

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 16th 09, 07:39 PM posted to sci.astro
N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)[_472_]
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Default "Supergiant" asteroid shut down Mars' magnetic field, but "dryness" shut down Venus'

Dear Yousuf Khan:

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
...
N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
Dear Yousuf Khan:

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
...
Sometimes you wish people would just get their
stories straight sometime. According to this theory,
Mars' magnetic field got shut down by a supergiant
asteroid hitting it, probably about the size of Texas.


Hit a magnet with a hammer, and you risk
demagnetizing it.


That'll work with a permanent magnet, but not an
electromagnet. I'd say a planet is closer to an
electromagnet than a permanent magnet.


We do have that liquid core...

So why didn't something like that shut down
Earth's magnetic field?


Liquid, differentially rotating, core.


Which apparently both Mars and Venus had at one
point too, just like the Earth.


But Mars didn't when it got hit. And Venus doesn't have our
"nuclear reactor".

Well, because you'd need an even bigger asteroid
to affect the Earth. Well, isn't the leading theory
of how the Moon formed, that a planetesimal the
size of Mars itself hit the Earth? Wouldn't that be
even bigger than a Texas sized asteroid? No
answer.


Use your head.


Elaborate.


Before we had the collision, did we have a magnetic field?
Immediately after the collision, did we have a magnetic field?
What is the duration of a pole flip, and do we have a magnetic
field during that peroid? We don't know. We've only been at
this (measuring magnetic fields for other planets) for less than
100 years.

Then the most ludicrous one is the explanation
about Venus. So why doesn't Venus have a
magnetic field? Well its mantle is too dry and stiff
to allow for a dynamo effect! So why is Venus's
mantle so stiff and dry? Is it because Venus's water
disappeared, that's why it's so dry in its mantle? If it
had a magnetic field it wouldn't have lost its water,
and if it had water, it would've had a magnetic field.


We still haven't gotten off this planet. Enjoy the
conundra while you can. Obviously, Venus does
not have Earth's history.


Even after we get off this planet, we still would have
a ways to go before we can go back in history.


I agree. I'd suggest the "red & dead" galaxies, as a place to
start. Coalescence must occur, but at what rate? Gravity is
fully conservative of momentum, only friction is not. If they
are still "red & dead", then there may be something special about
them. Not a different time rate, but something.

David A. Smith


 




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