Once and for all...are humans or robots better for Mars?

On Jun 26, 5:07*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:
Where do we get the AI Brain?

irrelevant ****e snipped

A damned good question. *Now all we need is a damned good answer (and
not just handwaving and fantasy).

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

Fred elides relevant and important details from major universities -
here are two more; please enjoy.

Overview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY4ajbu_G3k

Lecture 18 (the critical one in my view)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ff6l5D8-j8

Check out the other lectures to fill in the details...

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Used longcalc cof 5 1000 pow wrt .

pow wrt to the people, man.

-- wds

Freds talking about Predator drones or something similar. From all is
bragging I figure he got to clean out an air intake or something on a
few and so he thinks he's special.

Frigging idiot is what he is!

Fred, please know that killing innocent civilians in support of an
illegal murderous American regime hijacked by an outdated corrupt
British Empire whose members should all be in jail, all using 1980s
era cruise missile technology is not exactly what we're talking about
here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q

Haha - Fred thinks because he's following orders he's exempt from
prosecution for the millions of dead civilians he's producing. It
might even give him a thrill - being the sick ******* that he is.

That didn't work at Nuremburg, and it won't protect you Freddie boy.
When the people of the USA wake up and impeach the President for
violating the War Powers Act and start arresting those folks like you
who made this mess, war profiteers like you Freddie, whose finger is
on the trigger for many of the illegal and immoral deaths, will
understand just how low your form of life is.

I'll be there cheering.

Hoorah!

On Jun 30, 11:41*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

heres a question for everyone, source CBS news the other night.

if the indian point nuke plant near new york city failes 16 MILLION
will have to be evacuated instantly.

Here's an answer. *Your question is premised on bull****.



the power company understated the number needing evacuation by
underestimating the necessary size of the evacuation area..... they
claimed 4 million or some such...

Indian Point had been designed to withstand an earthquake much
stronger than any on record in the region.

Indian Point isn't the same sort of reactor as those in Japan.



now picture the logistics of evacuating 16 million people, permanetly
relocating them plus feeding and caring for them during a stressful
time.

Gee, and what if they had to evacuate a 1000 mile radius from the
plant!



nuke power plants should of never been built near major population
centers

Yeah. *They should just raze 30% of New York City and Westchester
County because there's not enough electricity to keep people alive.


a nuke plant can melt down from a very long list of reasons, not just
a earthquake and sunmami. TMI had neither of those.neither did
chernobyl. The NEXT meltdown whenever it occurs will likely be from a
different cause.... although many US plants are currently at risk.

Electricity can and is transportable, although there are line losses.
Do you prefer the risk of new york becoming a permanent exclusion zone
someday?

Plants should of never been built where a meltdown for any reason
would require evacuating 16 million people. Not only is it impossible
to move that many people FAST, once they are somewhere else they must
be fed clothed and housed. Let alone the economic costs to our
country. Theres no insurance for such a event.

Just imagine the costs to pay everyone for their losses, it would be
staggering.....

The terrorist now know what a great target a nuke plant with elevated
waste core storage pools are. A business sized jet loaded with
explosives could take out a pools cooling system.

or worse a systamatic attack on the nations power grid.nuke plants are
vulnerable to power losses. even a attempted attack would likely cause
chaos in our country even if the nuke plants remained safe

On Jun 29, 10:52*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Jun 26, 5:07*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

William Mook wrote:
Where do we get the AI Brain?

irrelevant ****e snipped

A damned good question. *Now all we need is a damned good answer (and
not just handwaving and fantasy).

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

one day it will likely be a humane brain repurposed for AI, no doubt
for miltary uses....

having all crawlers transmitting back real time data to a central
location would minimize power hungry transmitter issues

Humane brains will rise up and rid themselves of useless military
activity.

In about two months judging from the economics.

The American Empire, and the present illegal regime that claims to run
the current Empire, will fail this year. Those who are part of the
military industrial complex who are largely responsible for this crash
will be in jail or dead and the world will be at peace as we awake
from the brain washing of the past 60 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzKQyBY0Qys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI4mDXV0KeU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPr_T7btVgA

Suit filed to seek decommissioning of Hamaoka reactors
SHIZUOKA, Japan, July 1, Kyodo

A group of residents of Shizuoka Prefecture filed a lawsuit Friday to
seek the decommissioning of the reactors at the Hamaoka nuclear power
plant for safety reasons, following their suspension at a government
request due to their location on a major fault zone.


Amid a spread of antinuclear movements sparked by the crisis at the
crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the lawsuit is the
first of a series of similar suits expected to be filed en masse at
district courts nationwide in the fall to seek to a halt to nuclear
plants.


Friday's complaint filed with the Shizuoka District Court said Chubu
Electric Power Co. should decommission the Nos. 3 to 5 reactors,
arguing they are at great risk of being hit by a major earthquake with
subsequent tsunami and ground liquefaction, and cannot be made safe.

: bob haller
: Friday's complaint filed with the Shizuoka District Court said Chubu
: Electric Power Co. should decommission the Nos. 3 to 5 reactors,
: arguing they are at great risk of being hit by a major earthquake with
: subsequent tsunami and ground liquefaction, and cannot be made safe.

Shrug. I druther any plan to decomission pressurized water designs
be accompanied by plans to commission liquid metal cooled or other
somewhat less volatile designs. But hey, it's their island.
They can mismanage it any way they want, just like any country can
mismange its resources any way they want.

On Jul 1, 3:31*pm, (Wayne Throop) wrote:
: bob haller
: Friday's complaint filed with the Shizuoka District Court said Chubu
: Electric Power Co. *should decommission the Nos. *3 to 5 reactors,
: arguing they are at great risk of being hit by a major earthquake with
: subsequent tsunami and ground liquefaction, and cannot be made safe.

Shrug. *I druther any plan to decomission pressurized water designs
be accompanied by plans to commission liquid metal cooled or other
somewhat less volatile designs. *But hey, it's their island.
They can mismanage it any way they want, just like any country can
mismange its resources any way they want.

Graphite is a reasonable moderator. Water - light water, instead of
heavy water - soaks up neutrons like a sponge. Great wet blanket for a
reactor you want to turn off, although in a real emergency molten
cadmium might be faster.

John Savard

On Jul 1, 3:27*pm, Quadibloc wrote:
On Jul 1, 3:31*pm, (Wayne Throop) wrote:

: bob haller
: Friday's complaint filed with the Shizuoka District Court said Chubu
: Electric Power Co. *should decommission the Nos. *3 to 5 reactors,
: arguing they are at great risk of being hit by a major earthquake with
: subsequent tsunami and ground liquefaction, and cannot be made safe.

Shrug. *I druther any plan to decomission pressurized water designs
be accompanied by plans to commission liquid metal cooled or other
somewhat less volatile designs. *But hey, it's their island.
They can mismanage it any way they want, just like any country can
mismange its resources any way they want.

Graphite is a reasonable moderator. Water - light water, instead of
heavy water - soaks up neutrons like a sponge. Great wet blanket for a
reactor you want to turn off, although in a real emergency molten
cadmium might be faster.

John Savard

Or simply use thorium to begin with.

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