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Lo, many moons past, on 13 Feb 2004 09:09:14 -0800, a stranger called
by some (bart janssens) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism Douglas Berry wrote in message . .. Lo, many moons past, on 11 Feb 2004 06:10:35 -0800, a stranger called by some (bart janssens) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism Did you ever witnessed a Shuttle-launch? Several. I was stationed in Georgia in the the mid-80s, and arranging leave days for the launch windows was pretty easy. Discovery (51-C) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-c.html Discovery (51-D) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-d.html Challenger (51-B) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-b.html Challenger (51-G) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-g.html Discovery (51-I) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-i.html Atlantis (51-J, maiden flight) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-j.html Challenger (51-L, Keep the Dream Alive!) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-l.html Atlantis (STS-36, I had to see a night launch.. wow) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...on-sts-36.html So I've seen them all launch except Columbia and Endeavour. Yes. I would swear in a court of law that I saw a STS move away from the ISS. Would you swear in a court that the Shuttle disappeared "behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle? Actually, we always had my telescope along. We followed it all the way to SRB seperation. After that, it quickly became hard to track. But I was told that at night launches you could see it shut down engines. The next night we could spot the shuttle in orbit (depending on the orbital track) I would stand up in court, and swear I had seen the Shuttle launch into orbit seven times. I was present for an eigth launch, but the shuttle was destroyed 67 seconds after launch. Saw that clearly.. shudder. -- Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows" |
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"Douglas Berry" wrote in message ... Actually, we always had my telescope along. We followed it all the way to SRB seperation. After that, it quickly became hard to track. But I was told that at night launches you could see it shut down engines. I've been fortunate enough to see MECO a few times during night launches. Fascinating to listen to the mission comms and hear "Main Engine CutOff" as the pale blue light winks out. The blinking red "taillights" of the SRB's falling away is quite a site too. The next night we could spot the shuttle in orbit (depending on the orbital track) I would stand up in court, and swear I had seen the Shuttle launch into orbit seven times. I was present for an eigth launch, but the shuttle was destroyed 67 seconds after launch. Saw that clearly.. shudder. I was riding down an escalator at the mall in Green Bay, WI when I noticed people were clambering for the electronics store windows. We watched it again and again, on television screens of several dimensions and it never got any easier... -- Stephen Home Page: stephmon.com Satellite Hunting: sathunt.com |
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Douglas Berry wrote in message . ..
Lo, many moons past, on 13 Feb 2004 09:09:14 -0800, a stranger called by some (bart janssens) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism Douglas Berry wrote in message . .. Lo, many moons past, on 11 Feb 2004 06:10:35 -0800, a stranger called by some (bart janssens) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism Did you ever witnessed a Shuttle-launch? Several. I was stationed in Georgia in the the mid-80s, and arranging leave days for the launch windows was pretty easy. Discovery (51-C) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-c.html Discovery (51-D) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-d.html Challenger (51-B) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-b.html Challenger (51-G) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-g.html Discovery (51-I) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-i.html Atlantis (51-J, maiden flight) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-j.html Challenger (51-L, Keep the Dream Alive!) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...sion-51-l.html Atlantis (STS-36, I had to see a night launch.. wow) http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/...on-sts-36.html So I've seen them all launch except Columbia and Endeavour. Yes. I would swear in a court of law that I saw a STS move away from the ISS. Would you swear in a court that the Shuttle disappeared "behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle? Actually, we always had my telescope along. We followed it all the way to SRB seperation. After that, it quickly became hard to track. But I was told that at night launches you could see it shut down engines. The next night we could spot the shuttle in orbit (depending on the orbital track) I would stand up in court, and swear I had seen the Shuttle launch into orbit seven times. I was present for an eigth launch, but the shuttle was destroyed 67 seconds after launch. Saw that clearly.. shudder. SO, you dot not swear that the Shuttle disappeared "behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle, because the Shuttle DID NOT DISAPPEAR BEHIND THE HORIZON! www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/aa.html www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/proof1.html |
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SO, you dot not swear that the Shuttle disappeared "behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle, because the Shuttle DID NOT DISAPPEAR BEHIND THE HORIZON! www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/aa.html www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/proof1.html Wow, looks like he's got you there. What a powerful proof. My posts have now been ignored by him because he has no idea how to respond: he knows he can't explain away the satellite-based telecommunications industry with anything approaching solid evidence. And, he doesn't want to think about what evidence would convince him that stuff does orbit the earth, which proves he's not interested in doing science, just interested in putting forth an unsupportable crackpot notion. So, he sticks to nay-saying whatever you say, and repeating his bogus physics. I still think he's a trickster just trying to get a rise out of folks. |
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SO, you dot not swear that the Shuttle disappeared
"behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle, because the Shuttle DID NOT DISAPPEAR BEHIND THE HORIZON! No, It became to hard to track visually during day launches. HA! TYPICAL COVERUP EXCUSE! However, it was in orbit and back in view within 100 minutes of launch through the telescope at my one night launch. (We had a motor failure that stopped the smooth tracking during launch.) How do you know that it was not a meteor stone that you saw 100 minutes later? |
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Lo, many moons past, on 16 Feb 2004 18:15:33 -0800, a stranger called
by some RetroProphet came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism SO, you dot not swear that the Shuttle disappeared "behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle, because the Shuttle DID NOT DISAPPEAR BEHIND THE HORIZON! No, It became to hard to track visually during day launches. HA! TYPICAL COVERUP EXCUSE! No, physics. However, it was in orbit and back in view within 100 minutes of launch through the telescope at my one night launch. (We had a motor failure that stopped the smooth tracking during launch.) How do you know that it was not a meteor stone that you saw 100 minutes later? Because it was right where NASA said it would be. It had the same shape as the shuttle, the same colors as the shuttle, the same orbital speed as the shuttle, and followed the pre-announced orbital path for the shuttle. What we saw followed a predictable orbital track for the announced duration of the mission, then made a reentry that was visible to half the world, and ended with the orbiter landing back at KSC. After that, nothing along the orbital track. BTW: "Meteor" refers to a piece of rock or ice that has entered the Earth's atmosphere. The proper term for something that hasn't done this is asteroid (if it is of any size, a few meters or more) or debris. Most meteors you see are no bigger than grains of sand or small pebbles. -- Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows" |
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Lo, many moons past, on 16 Feb 2004 18:15:33 -0800, a stranger called
by some RetroProphet came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism SO, you dot not swear that the Shuttle disappeared "behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle, because the Shuttle DID NOT DISAPPEAR BEHIND THE HORIZON! No, It became to hard to track visually during day launches. HA! TYPICAL COVERUP EXCUSE! No, physics. However, it was in orbit and back in view within 100 minutes of launch through the telescope at my one night launch. (We had a motor failure that stopped the smooth tracking during launch.) How do you know that it was not a meteor stone that you saw 100 minutes later? Because it was right where NASA said it would be. It had the same shape as the shuttle, the same colors as the shuttle, the same orbital speed as the shuttle, and followed the pre-announced orbital path for the shuttle. What we saw followed a predictable orbital track for the announced duration of the mission, then made a reentry that was visible to half the world, and ended with the orbiter landing back at KSC. After that, nothing along the orbital track. BTW: "Meteor" refers to a piece of rock or ice that has entered the Earth's atmosphere. The proper term for something that hasn't done this is asteroid (if it is of any size, a few meters or more) or debris. Most meteors you see are no bigger than grains of sand or small pebbles. -- Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows" |
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SO, you dot not swear that the Shuttle disappeared
"behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle, because the Shuttle DID NOT DISAPPEAR BEHIND THE HORIZON! No, It became to hard to track visually during day launches. HA! TYPICAL COVERUP EXCUSE! However, it was in orbit and back in view within 100 minutes of launch through the telescope at my one night launch. (We had a motor failure that stopped the smooth tracking during launch.) How do you know that it was not a meteor stone that you saw 100 minutes later? |
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