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"Managers" cleared the shuttle???
Space shuttle set for July 1 lift-off
Nasa managers cleared the shuttle for lift-off even though the agency’s top safety officer and its lead engineer objected, officials said on Saturday. "Managers" cleared the shuttle??? Engineers and Safety people did not??? Uh, wasn't this the same stupid **** that brought down the Challenger in 1986??? We have lost 2 out of 5 shuttles One more and America's manned space program is done I wonder if those Guvment "Managers' were politically correct but incompetent Black Females like the one who said no to the Columbia picture in orbit that may have spotted the wing damage?? |
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"Managers" cleared the shuttle???
Spouting the concepts that any body is better or smarter than anybody
else based on skin color or sex only demonstrates your ignorant perspective of the human race and the universe as a whole, as billions of people of both sexes and many different colors have discovered and invented the devices your using to spread you trash. Your white supremacist rantings need to be confronted directly and challenged for their illogic and belligerence, and so without being hypocritical why don't you use only white male discovered, manufactured and maintained ways of spreading your de-evolved thinking. Otherwise acknowledge the contributions of billions of people throughout history that have done, and are doing more for the human and many other species on this planet than your de-evolved being. Huhwhatduh? wrote: Space shuttle set for July 1 lift-off Nasa managers cleared the shuttle for lift-off even though the agency's top safety officer and its lead engineer objected, officials said on Saturday. "Managers" cleared the shuttle??? Engineers and Safety people did not??? Uh, wasn't this the same stupid **** that brought down the Challenger in 1986??? We have lost 2 out of 5 shuttles One more and America's manned space program is done I wonder if those Guvment "Managers' were politically correct but incompetent Black Females like the one who said no to the Columbia picture in orbit that may have spotted the wing damage?? |
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"Managers" cleared the shuttle???
Nasa managers cleared the shuttle for lift-off even though the
agency's top safety officer and its lead engineer objected, officials said on Saturday. There's a more detailed account at http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts121/060617july1/ including some lengthy quotes from Griffin. I would say that Griffin is guilty of some sloppy and wishful thinking. For example, saying "I believe that our models are quite conservative" (which is not reassuring unless you know something about how conservative) or "we have 113 flights (sic) with this vehicle with these ice-frost ramps under our belt" (we got away with it until now, so it must not be a problem). In some more defensible statements, he points to dealing with a foam impact via "repair, launch on need, extended safe haven on the station, asking our Russian partners for help, maybe some or all of the above". I guess my question is whether we have some reasonable confidence that one of those things will work. There doesn't seem to be a clear idea of which of those options would be the one to go with. But it does seem to be important to Griffin's thinking - he feels he is risking a shuttle this way ("programmatic risk"), not risking a crew. I also would say there is something positive in Griffin's comments, and that is accepting that there is risk. At some level, people in the shuttle program have always known that there is risk (much greater than, say, flying in a commercial or general aviation aircraft), but I don't recall it being acknowledged as openly or publicly as this before. |
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"Managers" cleared the shuttle???
Jim Kingdon wrote in
news Nasa managers cleared the shuttle for lift-off even though the agency's top safety officer and its lead engineer objected, officials said on Saturday. There's a more detailed account at http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts121/060617july1/ including some lengthy quotes from Griffin. I would say that Griffin is guilty of some sloppy and wishful thinking. For example, saying "I believe that our models are quite conservative" (which is not reassuring unless you know something about how conservative) or "we have 113 flights (sic) with this vehicle with these ice-frost ramps under our belt" (we got away with it until now, so it must not be a problem). I suppose you could say that, but you'd be misquoting Griffin. He never said or even implied that the IFRs "must not be a problem" - just that it's not as *big* a problem as the word "probable" means in NASA's risk matrix. NASA defines "probable" as "expected over the life of the program", in other words, P 0.5 over the remaining 16-19 flights. Regardless of just *how* conservative the models are, that can't even be close - if it were, there simply shouldn't be any orbiters left by now, since P 0.5 over 16- 19 flights equates to 3 hull losses over 114 flights. I also would say there is something positive in Griffin's comments, and that is accepting that there is risk. At some level, people in the shuttle program have always known that there is risk (much greater than, say, flying in a commercial or general aviation aircraft), but I don't recall it being acknowledged as openly or publicly as this before. I agree - and that's another data point that says he's not saying that the IFR's "must not be a problem." -- JRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. |
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