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Chris Bennetts wrote in message ...
John Doe wrote: Also, wasn't node 2 the one that Europe built in exchange for Shuttle luanching Colombus ? I was under the impression that both Nodes 2 *and* 3 were part of that deal. Since ESA still want a launch for Columbus, you can bet that they're pushing ahead with Node 3 to pay for it. --Chris Here are a couple of news articles that seem to confirm that a recent decision was made to go ahead with Node 3. But like most things with the ISS, everything can change tomorrow. -Space Daily http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0915104718.htm 2004-09-15 "Maurizio Tucci, CEO of Alenia Spazio, expressed his satisfaction about the number of modules built by Alenia Spazio and explained that with the assembly of the Node 3 module just getting underway they will soon be able to complete the series." -Huntsville Times http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletim...1399177610.xml October 04, 2004 "I think one of the things that actually drove moving the (life support) hardware was because there was some question whether or not Node 3 would come together," Croomes said. "Even though it has been started, there were some political and financial problems in Europe that needed to be addressed and that created some difficulties with the arrangements. There was a period of time there that it was wondered if (Node-3) would actually come through." Earlier in the summer the details were nailed down and Italy confirmed work on Node-3, Croomes said. NASA decided to press on with moving the advanced life support system to the Destiny lab "to go ahead and test it out on orbit ... that way we can work the bugs out of it and know the system better when we need it to support a six or seven person crew," Croomes said." "This decision takes the pressure off of relying on the delivery of Node-3 and now we don't have to wait on it to expand the crew, either." -Rusty Barton |
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Rusty Barton wrote:
Here is a planning chart from September 2004 that shows Node 3 being launched on STS-130 in 2008. http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/09.10.04.FAWG.pdf That's some ambitious flight rates.... D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL |
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John Doe wrote:
None of this stuff confirms that the USA government has given budgets and green light for NASA to contract for the contruction of Node 3. Unsurprising since NASA isn't building Node 3. Until NASA starts to talk about moving Node 3 to KSC for integration tests, I won't really bet much money. Remember that they had already begun to build one hab when it was cut. They had begun to test Transhab when it was cut. Node 3 has been at KSC for over a year now. http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/.../story004.html D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL |
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That is Node 2 at KSC.
Node 3 is to be built by ESA as provided in the NASA/ESA MOU Para 6.3.2. at http://www.hq.nasa.gov/ogc/iss/02mou.html . the MOU also contains other stuff that my be of interest. There is another MOU for the Cupola. "Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... John Doe wrote: None of this stuff confirms that the USA government has given budgets and green light for NASA to contract for the contruction of Node 3. Unsurprising since NASA isn't building Node 3. Until NASA starts to talk about moving Node 3 to KSC for integration tests, I won't really bet much money. Remember that they had already begun to build one hab when it was cut. They had begun to test Transhab when it was cut. Node 3 has been at KSC for over a year now. http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/.../story004.html D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL |
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The ECLSS racks finish testing in March 05. They may go onto the Lab until
N3 is launched. "John Doe" wrote in message ... Chris Bennetts wrote: I was under the impression that both Nodes 2 *and* 3 were part of that deal. Since ESA still want a launch for Columbus, you can bet that they're pushing ahead with Node 3 to pay for it. Well, building 2 whole modules seems to be quite a price to pay in exchange for one launch. Also, with the newly redeseigned station (hab integrated in Node 3), won't the specs for node3 have changed rather significantly ? And while ESA may build the basic node structures, is it correct to assume that the racks will be supplied by the USA ? (ECLSS, toilet, data/comms, and the roomettes) ? What is the status of those systems ? Are they funded ? is there work going on ? |
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Derek Lyons wrote:
Node 3 has been at KSC for over a year now. http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/.../story004.html That article talks about Node *2*. (two). There is just a passing mention of Node 3 still under construction in europe. However, there is no mention of the systems that will go into Node 3 which would be provided by NASA contractors. |
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Randall Vogtman wrote:
The ECLSS racks finish testing in March 05. They may go onto the Lab until N3 is launched. Which ECLSS systems are essentially ready ? Electrolitic O2 generation ? (US equivalent of Elektron) ? Water purification systems ? ( I think there are a couple) ? How about a Sabatier system ? Of the systems already in Destiny, will their copies on Node 3 be identical, or have they added modifications to make those more reliable ? (in particular CDRA) What about the toilet ? How much of the shuttle toilet can they use on the station ? (since you don't want to constantly be venting stuff out). |
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http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/09.10.04.FAWG.pdf
That's some ambitious flight rates.... By calendar year: 2005: 4 flights 2006: 5 flights 2007: 5 flights 2008: 5 flights 2009: 5 flights Of course, that document predates the announcement that return to flight won't happen in March 2005. |
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