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Brian Tung:
You left out that Chris is a registered Apple developer. Don't those count as Mac users? Not necessarily. I know a guy who is a master mechanic at a BMW garage, but who drives a Honda. That's a fair, if rough, analogy, IMO -- though when I'm doing Mac-Windows-car analogies I usually refer to BMW's and Yugos. And I use Windows XP Pro myself and know whereof I speak. Davoud -- usenet *at* davidillig dawt com |
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Send in the Clowns - This Thread is Now Closed [Was Photoshop and Mac and Windows]
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:12:44 GMT, John Steinberg wrote:
I do hereby officially and unequivocally end this thread with a personal invocation of *Godwin's Law. Yes, I _am_ a Mac Nazi. Thank you all for your fine contributions to this thread, but I think it's fair to say that this horse has been flogged to death, and then some. Nice try, John, but it seems that it has become... THE THREAD THAT WOULDN'T DIE. BTW, "flogged... and then some" is entirely inadequate. Converted to a biofilm is more like it. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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On 10/08/03 03:18 +0900, Davoud wrote:
As I said, you are not a Mac user. "...also have a Mac," "...I'm running Panther" and "...had a nice visit with some Apple developers" still do not a Mac user make. So now, in addition to wondering why you joined this thread in the first place, I'm wondering why you are still here! You might want to cut waaaaaay back on the coffee, dude. It's only a computer, not a bloody religion. Jeeze. :-( trane -- //------------------------------------------------------------ // Trane Francks Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. // http://mp3.com/trane_francks/ |
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"Davoud" wrote in message ... Not necessarily. I know a guy who is a master mechanic at a BMW garage, but who drives a Honda. That's a fair, if rough, analogy, IMO -- though when I'm doing Mac-Windows-car analogies I usually refer to BMW's and Yugos. And I use Windows XP Pro myself and know whereof I speak. I thought your original car analogy was accurate. My 1987 Honda has 207,000 miles on it and runs just fine despite also having been built as cheaply as possible. I use XP Pro at work and I don't much care for it either. Windows 2000 is much more Honda-like in its utilitarian way of execution. In fact future archeologists several thousand years from now will uncover a room long lost in time and they will find a Windows 2000 computer still running. Yes, that's right, Windows 2000 will have up times of several thousand years. :-) |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:35:02 +0900, Trane Francks
wrote: You might want to cut waaaaaay back on the coffee, dude. It's only a computer, not a bloody religion. Jeeze. :-( Very good point. ;-) Back in 1990 I fell into the "cult of Jobs" for a while. I dumped $10K+ in NeXT Computer hardware and training. Just think if I had invested that in Dell stock instead! I lost all my PC friends with my smart *ss remarks all the time, and kicked and screamed at my workplace whenever I had to use anything else. Yes, I still think the NeXT was far superior to anything else around at the time and it did teach me pure object-oriented programming which has been very good for my career. However, I soon learned that computer companies are really just interested in parting you from your money and that your loyalty means diddly to them. --- Michael McCulloch |
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On 10/08/03 13:04 +0900, Michael McCulloch wrote:
Back in 1990 I fell into the "cult of Jobs" for a while. I dumped $10K+ in NeXT Computer hardware and training. Just think if I had invested that in Dell stock instead! You'd certainly be comfortable. About 9 years ago, I played with NeXTstep/486 off and on for a few weeks. I thought it was an interesting looking system. Alas, it was even harder to find compatible hardware for it than it was my beloved OS/2. I lost all my PC friends with my smart *ss remarks all the time, and Hehehe ... I think a great many of us who become soundly dependent upon an architecture for our livelihood fall into similar traps. I certainly engaged in a few MCA versus EISA arguments while I was an IBMer. It took a while before I realized that no matter how good or bad the MCA bus might be, /arguing/ about it didn't make it any better. Yes, I still think the NeXT was far superior to anything else around What I saw of it looked pretty slick. It was _very_ smart of Apple to take the NeXTstep Mach/BSD microkernel architecture as their basis for developing the Darwin kernel. I've heard it rumoured that Apple keeps some development machines running OS X on the x86 architecture (Marklar?). It would definitely be interesting to see OS X released for the PC. I doubt it'll happen, but one never knows for sure. After all, NeXTstep ran on, what, 5 platforms back in the day? computer companies are really just interested in parting you from your money and that your loyalty means diddly to them. Return customers are good, though; they don't worry about having the wrong number of mouse buttons. ;^) trane -- //------------------------------------------------------------ // Trane Francks Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. // http://mp3.com/trane_francks/ |
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Godwin's Law, was Photoshop and Mac and Windows
On 10/08/03 13:34 +0900, Alan W. Craft wrote:
Godwin's Law deals primarily with referring to someone as Hitler within a debate, and generally anything to do with Hitler and Naziism. Godwin's Law was correctly quoted earlier in the thread: “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” Further information from the Jargon Lexicon version 4.4.5: "There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful. Godwin himself has discussed the subject. See also Formosa's Law." The penalty is quite simple: forfeiture of the debate. Indeed. trane -- //------------------------------------------------------------ // Trane Francks Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. // http://mp3.com/trane_francks/ |
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Matt Gabriel, Mad Poet of Newport wrote:
I think he does in this case. As a newbie looking for astro software for my Mac, I don't appreciate having to wade through half a zillion posts sneering at my choice of computer everytime the topic comes up. I'm sorry, I didn't see a sneer. That also doesn't sound like Chris. The rumor, such as it was, may have been in error, he may have been better off not posting it, but it sure didn't seem like a sneer to me. I found your elaboration on the situation enlightening, by the way. Brian Tung The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt |
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