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Free. www.gc.cuny.edu/sciart, 212-817-8215

21:30 - Coll of SI - SI - clearsky starviewing
Astrop Obsy. Free, cancelled for clouds.
supernova7.apsc.csi.cuny.edu, 718-982-3260

Tue - 18 May
19:00 - Amer Mus Natl Hist - MH - science lecture
Kaufmann Thtr, 'Art/sci collision' on depicting natural
phaenomena in artistic works. $15 adm. 212-769-5100.

19:00 - Rockefeller Univ - MH - science lecture
Caspary Audm. 'Compelled to create?' on making discoveries.
Free. www.rockefeller.edu.

19:30 - New Paltz - NY - Mid Hudson Astro Assn mtg
SUNY New Paltz, Coykendall Hall. Free.
www.geocities.com/mhastro1, 845-485-5669

19:30 - Hayden Plm - MH - This Just In
Live skyshow of current astronomy news. $12 adm.
212-769-5100

20:00 - Westport - CT - Westport Astro Soc meeting
Rolnick Obsy. Free. www.was-ct.org, 203-227-0925,

21:00 - Perkasie - PA - clearsky starviewing
Bucks-Mont A A, W Markey Centl Pk. Free, cancelled
for clouds. www.bma2.org, , 215-579-9973

Wed - 19 May
17:30 - Sci Ind Biz Liby - MH - cultural lecture
'History of Murray Hill ...' on design of houses in nabe..
Free. 212-592-7000, www.nypl.org/research/sibl

18:30 - AAA-HQ - MH - Amat Astro Assn annual meeting
Committee reports, refreshments, election of Board
seatholders and officers. Free. john.pazmino2ferc.gov,
212-273-5958.

19:00 - New Britain - CT - A S of Gtr Hartford meeting
Cntl Conn St Uv, Copernicus Hall. Free. www.asgh.org

20:00 - Westport - CT - clearsky starviewing
Westport A S, Rolnick Obsy. Free, cancelled for clouds,
www.was-ct.org, 203-227-0925,

20:30 - York Coll - QN - clearsky starviewing
Core Acadc Bdg, Rm 2E01. Free, cancelled for clouds.
natsci.york.cuny.edu/~yco, 718-262-2082

Thu - 20 May
17:30 - Sci Ind Biz Liby - MH - cultural lecture
'... New York City subway system ...' on the Dual Contract
expansion. Free. 212-592-7000, www.nypl.org/research/sibl

18:00 - Hanover - PA - Mason-Dixie Star Party
Thru Mon 24 May. York Co Astro Soc, Cordorus St Pk.
Darkskies, talks, camping, swoptable, vendors, food svc.
$25. 717-578-9109, www.masondixiestararty.org,
,

19:00 - NY Avady of Sci - MH - science lecture
'Extreme warnth in Earth's past' on past and future
climate changes. $20. www.nyas.org

19:00 - Hempstead - LI - astronomy lecture
Hofstra Univ, Biz Devlt Ctr. 'Dead stars do tell tales' on
supernova 1987A. Indoor talk, clearsky starviewing. Free.
516-463-6600, www.hofstra.edu

20:00 - Westport - CT - clearsky starviewing
Westport A S, Rolnick Obsy. Free, cancelled for clouds,
www.was-ct.org, 203-227-0925,

Fri - 21 May
19:00 - R Moses St Pk - LI - clearsky starviewing
Amat Obsrs Soc, parking lot #2. Permit reqd at 631-
669-1000. Free, cancelled for clouds. www.aosny.org.

20:00 - Cranford - NJ - Amat Astro Inc meeting
Union Co Coll, Smith Audm. Free. www.asterism.org

20:00 - Riverside Pk - MH = clearsky starviewing
Riverside Pk Fund, 96th St tennis courts. Free, cancelled
for clouds. www.riversideparkfund.org, 212-870-3070

20:00 - Stamford - CT - clearsky starviewing

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Amat Obsrs Soc, parking lot #2. Permit reqd at 631-
669-1000. Free, cancelled for clouds. www.aosny.org.

19:00 - Cranford - NJ - Amat Astro Inc lecture
Union Co Coll, Sperry Obsy. Indoor talk, clearsky
starviewing. Free. www.asterism.org

19:00 - Columbia Uv - MH - clearsky starviewing
Pupin Hall, rooftop. Cancelled for clouds. Free.
www.astro.columbia.edu/~observe, 212-854-3278

20:00 - Carl Schurz Pk - MH - clearsky starviewing
Promenade near 86th St. Free, cancelled for clouds.

20:00 - Toms River - NJ - A S of Toms Rv Area meeting
Ocean Co Coll, Novis Plm, Rm P109. Free. www.astra-nj.org

20:00 - Stamford - CT - clearsky starviewing
Stamford Mus & Natr Ctr, Obsy. $3 adm. Cancelled for
clouds. www.stamfordmuseum.org/astronomy.html

20:30 - Wilcox Pk - NY - clearsky starviewing
TENTATIVE SESSION; INQUIRE AT CONTACTS
Mid Hudson Astro Assn. Free, cancelled for clouds
www.geocities.com/mhastro1. 845-485-5669

21:00 - Doylestown - PA - clearsky starviewing
Bucks-Mont A A, Peace Vy Natr Ctr. Free, cancelled
for clouds. www.bma2.org, , 215-579-9973

Sat - 15 Nay
09:00 - Northampton - MA - astronomy day
Amherst Astro Assn, A-Z Science, King St. exhibits, demos,
clearsky sunviewing. Free. www.amastro.org, 413-256-6234

10:00 - Amityville - LI - Meade scope demo & workshop
Also at 13:00. Berger Brothers Cameras, 209 Broadway.
Free. www.berger-bros.com, 631-64-4160.

12:00 - Carl Schurz Pk - MH - clearsky sunviewing
Promenade near 86th St. Free, cancelled for clouds.

13:00 - Central Pk - MH - cultural tour
Urban Pk Rangers. Strawberry Flds, 72nd St & CPW. The
Beatles and NYC. Free. www.nyc.gov/parks.

14:45 - AAA-HQ - MH - Observing Group meeting
NOTE LATER HOUR 14:45, NOT 12:45!
General membership gathering for briefings on upcoming
celestial events, project work, show & tell, talks and
demos. Free.

19:00 - R Moses St Pk - LI - clearsky starviewing
Amat Obsrs Soc, parking lot #2. Permit reqd at 631-
669-1000. Free, cancelled for clouds. www.aosny.org.

19:30 - Alley Pond Pk - QN - astronomy lecture
Enviro Center, indoor talk, clearsky starviewing
$10 fee. www.alleypond.com/events, 718-229-4000

20:00 - Liberty - NY - clearsky starviewing
Catskills Astro Club. Walnut Mountain Pk. Cancelled for
clouds. Free. www.catskillsastro.org, .

20:00 - Paramus - NJ - Buehler-Columbia A A A meeting
TENTATIVE SESSION; INQUIRE AT CONTACT.
Bergen Commty Coll, Buehler Obsy. Free.
www.bergen.edu/buehler, .

20:00 - Jenny Jump St Pk - NJ - Utd Astro Clubs of NJ mtg
Indoor lecture, clearsky starviewing. Free. www.uacnj.org

20:00 - Southold - LI - clearsky starviewing
Custer Inst. Cancelled for clouds. Free.
www.custerobservatory.org

20:00 - Chester - NY - clearsky starviewing
Orange Co Astro Assn, Deis Obsy. Free, cancelled for clouds.
www.ocastronomy.org, , 845-641-2672

21:00 - Amherst - MA - clearsky starviewing
Amherst Astro Assn, Amherst Coll, Wilder Obsy. Free,
cancelled for clouds. www.amastro.org, 413-256-6234

Mon - 17 May
18:00 - CUNY Grad Ctr - MH - science play
'Partition' on mathematicians Ramanujan & Hardy..

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#**124** May 3rd 04, 01:43 AM

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Dates for events; contact if no events
Asterisks mark events within NYC
A A A of Princeton - - - 11
A S of Greenwich - - - - 5, 11, 25
A S of Gtr Hartford - - - 19
A S of Toms Rv Area - - - 8, 14
A-Z Science - - - - - - - 15
*Alley Pond Park - - - - - 15
*Amat Astro Assn - - - - - 7
Amat Astro Inc - - - - - 7, 14, 21, 28
Amat Obsrs Soc - - - - - 2
*Amer Mus Natl Hist - - - 1, 18, 25
Amherst College - - - - - 15
Anthony Wayne St Pk - - - 22
Arunah Hill - www.arunah.org, 413-772-6715,
Astro Soc of Long Is - - XX
Berger Bros Camera - - - 15
Brookhaven Natl Lab - - - 4
Bucks-Mont Astro Assn - - 5
Buehler-Columbia A A A - 1, 15
*Cadman Plaza - - - - - - 27
*Carl Schurz Park - - - - 14, 15
Catskills Astro Club - - 15, 22
Caumsett St Pk - - - - - 22
Cedar Hill Pk - - - - - - 25
Central Park - - - - - - 15
*Coll of Staten Is - - - - 3, 10, 17
*Columbia University - - - 14
*Cornelia St Cafe' - - - - 2
*CUNY Graduate Center - - 17
Custer Institute - - - - 1, 8, 15, 22, 29
Delaware Vy Amat Astro - 7
East Stroudsburg Uv - - - XX
*Floyd Bennett Field - - - 28
*Great Kills Park - - - - 22
*Hayden Planetarium - - - 3, 4, 10, 12, 18, 25
*Highbridge Pk - - - - - - 22
Hofstra University - - - 20
Lackawanna Astro Soc - - 4
Lackawanna St Pk - - - - 29
Lamont-Doherty Obsy - - - 23
Lehigh Vy Amat Astro Soc 9, 29
LI Space Society - - - - www.lispace.org,
Mason-Dixie Star Party - 20 thru 24
Mid-Hudson Astro Soc - - 18
*Moon, Mars, and Beyond - 3, 4
Morris Mus Astro Soc - - 13
Mystic Seaport - - - - - www.mysticseaport.org, 860-572-5322
*National Space Society - 8
North Jersey Astro Gp - - 6, 12
NJ Astro Assn - - - - - - 23
*NY Acady of Sci - - - - - 10, 14, 20
*Observing Group - - - - - 15
Orange Co Astro Assn - - 15, 22
Peace Valley Natr Ctr - - 14
Pennypack Ecolgl Trust - 28
*Recent Astro Semnr - - - 13, 27
*Riverside Park - - - - - 21
Robert Moses St Pk - - - 14, 15, 21, 22
*Rockefeller Univ - - - - 18
Rockland Astro Club - - - www.rocklandastronomy.com
Rutgers University - - - 13, 27
S*T*A*R - - - - - - - - - 6
*Sci Ind Biz Liby - - - - 13, 19, 20
Sheep Hill Astro Assn - - 2, 21
*SI Community TV - - - - - 3
Stamford Mus & Natr Ctr - 7, 14, 21, 28
Sunset Pk - - - - - - - - 30
SUNY New Paltz - - - - - www.newpaltz.edu/see/colloquim_series.html
SUNY Stony Brook - - - - 7
Tour de Sol - - - - - - - 22, 24
*Tour de Sol - - - - - - - 25
Utd Astro Clubs of NJ - - 1, 8, 15, 22, 29
Valley Forge N H P - - - 29
Vanderbilt Planetarium - XX
Vassar College - - - - - 5, 12
Ward Pound Ridge - - - - 8
Washington Xing Pk - - - 7, 28
Waterfront Park - - - - - www.aosny.org
Wesleyan University - - - 8
Westchester Amat Astro - 7
Westport Astro Soc - - - 5, 6, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 26, 27
Wilcox Park - - - - - - - 14
Willard Markey Centl Pk - 18
*World Finanl Ctr - - - - 22
*York College - - - - - - 5, 12, 19, 26
General News
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NYC Events for April was distributed at both NEAF and Earth Day,

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#**125** May 3rd 04, 01:43 AM

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with about 300 copies flowing into hands of visitors. The feedback was
overwhelmingly praiseful. Plus. I got leads for several unrecognized
astronomy activities within NYSkies territory. I welcome onboard two
new astronomy clubs. I do mean 'new' being that they were only
recently formed.
Say 'hello!' to Orange County Astronomical Association, Chester
NY, and Buehler-Columbia Amateur Astronomers Association, Paramus
(yes, THAT Paramus) NJ. Orange County already put up a slate of
stargazings for 2004. Buehler-Columbia has informal meetings until its
observatory at Bergen Community College is complete this summer.
Two newcomers to NYC Event collaborate for astronomy day on May
15th. First is the Wilder Observatory at Amherst College for evening
starviewing. The other is A-Z Science, a museum in Northampton MA for
daytime exhibits and sunviewing. These two carry on a regular program
of public astronomy, so they'll be included in future NYC Events.
Science, altho not strictly astronomy, is featured at some rather
odd places! Try the science-&-art play at Cornelia Street Cafe', smack
in Greenwich Village, on May 2nd. Before or after, you can cruise the
bookshops in the area for those astrobooks you always hoped to own.
I tossed in a couple events on climate and global warming/cooling
from the interest raised by current planet explorations and studies.
And thee are a couple on the new York subway system for historical
context and importance as a major weapon against luminous graffiti.
I showed mockups of a simplified NYC Events at NEAF. The one with
repetitive events listed only for the first date was a disaster. Not
only did the events bunch up at the front of the month, but when you
looked at dates near the end of the month, there was no way to realize
that there were in fact events for them. You would miss a LOT of
chances for your astronomy fix!
It also turns out that many clubs pass along NYC Events to their
own members, at times with some editing out of 'remote' items. They
WANT to see each instance of their activity in the list.
On the other hand, you really liked the starred items in the list
of places for those within the City.
What's with Northeast Astronomical Society and Rockland Astronomy
Club? See 'Astropolitics' below.

Major Events
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NYSkies was a hit at both the Northeast Astronomy Forum on April
17-18 and Earth Day on the 24-25!At the former, it hosted about 200
visitors; the latter, some 2.000! The percent of visitors was vastly
higher at NEAF because the attendees were already home astronomers. At
Earth Day they came from all sectors of society, including many who,
after sniffing at our table, fessed up that they were not interested
in astronomy.
Earth Day was the more spectacular of the two for its setting and
thousands of out-of-town visitors, Many were tourists from overseas,
who took NYSkies litterature to illustrate home astronomy in the City
for their friends back home. Others were suburban folk arriving at
Grand Central for a daytrip or to take in the whole earth Day show.
For them, NYSkies was a welcome source of astro activity in their
districts around the City.
The big upcoming event in May is the fifth and last of the public
hearings of the space commission set up in January by US president
Bush. It got a long bureaucratic name but everyone knows it as
'President's Commission on Moon, Mars, and beyond'. It even says that
right in the title on its own website.
Anyway, come to Asia House on Monday the 3rd and Tuesday the 4th
to hear the commissioners explain their work and answer questions. Who
knows? Maybe we will see astronauts tramping and hopping around on the
Moon again. Maybe even before the Second Avenue subway is finished.
The annual Tour de Sol alternate energy vehicle show rolls into
town on the 25th at Battery Park. This is a tentative location, but
definitely you'll see the cars and get free rides in them somewhere in
Lower Manhattan. If you can't wait, you can catch the show in
Burlington on the 22nd and Trenton on the 24th, both in New Jersey.

Skywatching
---------
After the five-planet parade of March, April was quiet. We had
lots of routine viewing of the planets, just that there ws no extra
special activity. The weather hasn't been that clear. Clouds and rain
were common all during the month.
May is an other story. Venus starts her run toward the Sun. Slowly
she arcs lower in the west at first, then by mid month she's in
freefall. You;ll lose her by month end in the sunset.
May and June are the spring season for spotting the Milky Way from
New York. I mean the summer reach only, which is up during the owl
hours to dawn. The winter Milky Way, rapidly sinking in the west at
dusk, so far has not been seen within the City for many decades. Late
spring and early summer typicly has haze moist skies, smothering any
hope of a Milky Way sighting. At times, once in a while, the sky gets
really, like really, clear and dark. On such nights the Milky Way can
show thru in its brighter parts.
The end of May is the first of New York's two Stonehenge sunset
windows. The Manhattan street grid allows the Sun to set in line with
an east-west street on May 29-31 and again on July 10-12. You need a
clear view down the whole street, with no obstructions, to Hudson

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#**126** May 3rd 04, 01:43 AM

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the words of the senior members before joining the Association. Or you
can let NYSkies dialog modulate your choice to renew AAA membership.
NYSkies is the soapbox the AAA Board and rank-&-file had to speak
out on various Association problems. They turned to NYSkies simply
because the AAA as yet does not have a good faith sincere forum for
its own members within itself.
Joining NYSkies is easy. Send an empty email to this Yahoo maillist
at '. Its posts are sent to you in
your email and you post to it by email. It's that simple!
Or you may go to 'groups.yahoo.com/group/nysky'. If you are
already signed up with Yahoo, you go and sign in and then 'join'
NYSkies. If not, you have to go thru a silly 'registration' that's a
oneshot chore, valid for all groups you may eventually join. The files
area of NYSkies are accessible only thru the website.

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#**127** May 3rd 04, 01:43 AM

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River. A superblock or treeline in the way will spoil the view.
Please be careful! The effect is best seen from the centerline of
the street. that'sthe best place to end it all by car collision.
Making things worse, you'll be distracted by the dazzling Sun in tour
eyes. All in all, you have to keep alert and be extremely cognizant of
cars zooming around you.
As May approaches, the fever is rising steeply for the Venus
transit on June 8th. many NYSkies members are lining up trips to
Europe or Asia to view the entire crossing. The rest will stay in the
City and see the last stages as the Sun rises. I put in a reminder
about the transit as the last item in the list above.

New York
------
The steam is starting to pump up for the national convention of
the republican party this summer and there's excitement about finally
getting dirt turned over for the Second Avenue subway by yearend.
One good feature of April was the sharp upturn in the City's
economy. From a subdued pace earlier this year, there is definitely a
liveliness in the overall activity. The FIRE industries are doing
well, even turning in strong 1st quarter reports. Careers are opening
up with hires on the rise.
It's true that classical manufacturing continues to decline; this
is a global situation as the world needs fewer and fewer people to
sustain factories. Much of the loss of factory jobs in the City is
being soaked up by new opportunities in technical services, news
media, and entertainments. The spinoff has been a more relaxed and
joyful climate for home astronomy.

Astropolitics
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For the last several years Amateur Astronomers Association prided
itself as king of the mountain for incompetent club management. Now it
must share that honor. A cabal is taking over Rockland Astronomy Club
o puff it up into an East Coast superclub. As one early step, noted in
previous NYC Events, it changed the club's name to Northeast
Astronomical Society.
Or did it?
The 'Rockland' sector of the club didn't go along. It still
operates under the Rockland name and still run Northeast Astronomy
Forum and Summer Star Party. The 'Northeast' faction insists it owns
the club and promote the new name for all the Rockland activities. At
NEAF, the club seems to be segregating into the two camps, with the
Northeast gang going off into its own new club.
Stay tuned!
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Amateur Astronomers Association is
entering its election season. Six of the eight incumbents earned new
seats on its Board of Directors, as announced on April 19th by the
president's Nominating Committee. They are Susan Andreoli, Alice
Barner, Elias Baltin, Lynn Darsh, Irving Robbins, and Frank Schmidt.
The other two, Arline Caldwell and John Pazmino, step down when their
terms run out on May 31st. One new Board seatholder was named, Rachel
Connolly from the Rose Center for Earth and Space.
So far there are no known petitioners. If there end up being none,
then there is no 'election'. The number of candidates and vacant seats
balance and everyone gets installed at the annual meeting on May 19th.
NYSkies congratulates all the new seatholders and wish them a
successful term on the Board.
Also at the annual meeting is the election of club officers. The
outgoing Board names them from among the seatholders of the new Board.
In this instance, Ms Connolly can not vote for the officers, but could
end up becoming one.
Who will be the new AAA president? Despite all the silly rumors
about competing candidates for this position, there genuinely is only
the one person on the radar, Michael O'Gara. NYSkies heard of no
credible other person who even WANTS the office, let alone aspiring to
it. So there is almost certain to be only one nomination for president
and O'Gara will be it.
Is this a good thing?
Peculiarly, both O'Gara's followers and his chasers agree that
only he should be the president. It seems that his supporters take him
for a powerless petty pip who does whatever they egg him on to do. His
opponents, on the other hand, take him for a powerless petty pip who
does whatever they egg him on to do. Against such a united front, what
hope can a contender have?

NYSkies
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Astronomers are exploiting NYSkies as a quick, handy, friendly,
and potent source of astronomy news relating to the City. And there is
LOTS of astronomy stuff going on around New York! Since it revived on
28 September 2001 (it was interrupted by World Trade Center) NYSkies
became the definitive forum and public record for matters bearing on
home astronomy in and around New York.
Granted, some of the banter relates particularly to the Amateur
Astronomers Association. It's the major astronomy union in town and
every home astronomer around here eventually runs up against it. It
pays to listen to those discussions (rants? blusters? tirades?), even
if you opt out of playing in them. At the least, you take into account

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#**128** May 4th 04, 01:01 AM

Barry Schwarz wrote:
Some of your posts are pretty interesting but the fact that you
deliberately change the title as you post to different newgroups is
really annoying. Post like a troll and pretty soon that is how people
will treat your posts.

I don't know that John is doing that intentionally. (I haven't checked
the other newsgroups, though.) What I do notice, however, is that he is
using a newsreader that is pretty hobbled (or else he's using it in a
hobbled manner). It's not threading properly, it truncates subject lines,
it uses some non-standard character set, it apparently can't post anything
longer than about 50 lines--it's to the point that even though much of
what he writes is interesting, I just pass it on by because reading it is
so darned painful.

Brian Tung
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt

#**129** May 4th 04, 02:31 AM

WOW! If you ever dare, come and visit the Yahoo group 'nysky'.

J.P. is the owner of this n.g. That is at simultaneously its best and
worst points!

It is full of useful astronomy-related information from the New York
city and metropolitan area. Much of it is contributed by J.P. himself.
It is simply astonishing how much information he finds to post every
month. I have to give him credit for this.

BUT! It is also full of rants and raves by J.P. and many others about
the politics of the AAA, (The Amateur Astronomers Association of NY),
and many other inane topics.

While I am not a member of AAA, I read the nysky newsgroup. I live
about 70 miles North of the city, close enough that members of AAA come
up to our viewing sessions, but rarely vice versa. (I once spoke to a
group in Manhattan when Comet Hale-Bopp was visible naked eye from the
street outside the meeting. But I digress...)

J.P. seems to have WAY too much free time! He has been kicked off the
AAA board, but yet, he continues to write as if he were an officer. He
makes up new words on the fly, either that, or he does not have a spell
checker. I'm still not sure which...

It's too bad that someone who has so much to contribute, has so much to
put people off at the same time.

Brian Tung wrote:

Barry Schwarz wrote:

Some of your posts are pretty interesting but the fact that you
deliberately change the title as you post to different newgroups is
really annoying. Post like a troll and pretty soon that is how people
will treat your posts.

I don't know that John is doing that intentionally. (I haven't checked
the other newsgroups, though.) What I do notice, however, is that he is
using a newsreader that is pretty hobbled (or else he's using it in a
hobbled manner). It's not threading properly, it truncates subject lines,
it uses some non-standard character set, it apparently can't post anything
longer than about 50 lines--it's to the point that even though much of
what he writes is interesting, I just pass it on by because reading it is
so darned painful.

Brian Tung
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt

--
Tom Rankin - Programmer by day, amateur astronomer by night!
Mid-Hudson Astronomy Association - http://mhaa.whodeanie.com

When replying, remove the capital letters from my email address.

#**130** May 30th 04, 03:56 AM

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Joining NYSkies is easy. Send an empty email to this Yahoo maillist
at '. Its posts are sent to you in
your email and you post to it by email. It's that simple!
Or you may go to 'groups.yahoo.com/group/nysky'. If you are
already signed up with Yahoo, you go and sign in and then 'join'
NYSkies. If not, you have to go thru a silly 'registration' that's a
oneshot chore, valid for all groups you may eventually join. The files
area of NYSkies are accessible only thru the website.

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