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Old June 20th 16, 01:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Vaughn Simon
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On 6/15/2016 11:47 AM, Robert Clark wrote:
The LA Times is reporting today's landing attempt was unsuccessful:

SpaceX launches two satellites, but drone ship landing is unsuccessful.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...nap-story.html


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Looks like thrust was low on 1 of 3 landing engines. High g landings v
sensitive to all engines operating at max.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/743097337782763521


Here is a video (From several different angles) of the wreckage from
that flight not yet unloaded from the barge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdS4osHmn4

Admittedly it's hard to tell, but I see no apparent damage to the barge
from the crash. Even the painted circle looks good. That deck seems to
be pretty tough.

Vaughn
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Old June 20th 16, 07:05 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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JF Mezei wrote:

On 2016-06-20 08:12, Vaughn Simon wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdS4osHmn4

Admittedly it's hard to tell, but I see no apparent damage to the barge
from the crash. Even the painted circle looks good. That deck seems to
be pretty tough.


That's because they fixed it all up during the trip back to port so it
would appear undamaged :-)


Utter horse****.


Surprised that even the yellow paint remained yellow on the barge.


Why?


Is the explosion just a big flash that burns out is seconds ?


It's an uncontained fuel explosion. I keep telling you this and you
keep not listening.


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Old June 21st 16, 02:47 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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In article ,
says...

JF Mezei wrote:

On 2016-06-20 08:12, Vaughn Simon wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdS4osHmn4

Admittedly it's hard to tell, but I see no apparent damage to the barge
from the crash. Even the painted circle looks good. That deck seems to
be pretty tough.


That's because they fixed it all up during the trip back to port so it
would appear undamaged :-)


Utter horse****.


Surprised that even the yellow paint remained yellow on the barge.


Why?


Is the explosion just a big flash that burns out is seconds ?


It's an uncontained fuel explosion. I keep telling you this and you
keep not listening.


Agreed. Here is something JF might be able to relate to...

When the stages that don't make it "explode", it's like the big orange
"Hollywood explosions" seen on TV an in the movies. You get a nice big
orange fireball, but what little kerosene that was left in the stage
burns off leaving little damage.

JF, have you seen the episode of Mythbusters when they compare a
Hollywood style gasoline explosion with an actual high velocity
explosive? I believe they did this episode with junked cars. The
gasoline explosion burned the car some, but it remained largely intact
(i.e. the steel structure had its paint burned off and was covered in
black soot). But, the high energy explosive turned the junked car into
flying shrapnel. Bits of bent metal were everywhere.

The barge is made of very thick steel. A Hollywood style explosion
really won't hurt it much. That and the barge has automated (or
remote?) fire control nozzles that spray the deck down in case of an
accident. So the "emergency fire response" is instantaneous.

Jeff
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Old June 21st 16, 03:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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"JF Mezei" wrote in message
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On 2016-06-20 08:12, Vaughn Simon wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdS4osHmn4

Admittedly it's hard to tell, but I see no apparent damage to the barge
from the crash. Even the painted circle looks good. That deck seems to
be pretty tough.



That's because they fixed it all up during the trip back to port so it
would appear undamaged :-)

Surprised that even the yellow paint remained yellow on the barge.

Is the explosion just a big flash that burns out is seconds ?


Basically yes. Some pieces of flying metal that hit deck metal even thicker
and bigger than the tank pieces.
Maybe break the lens on a camera or something.

Seriously, not a big deal.

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Old June 21st 16, 04:17 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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"Greg \(Strider\) Moore" wrote:

"JF Mezei" wrote in message
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On 2016-06-20 08:12, Vaughn Simon wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdS4osHmn4

Admittedly it's hard to tell, but I see no apparent damage to the barge
from the crash. Even the painted circle looks good. That deck seems to
be pretty tough.



That's because they fixed it all up during the trip back to port so it
would appear undamaged :-)

Surprised that even the yellow paint remained yellow on the barge.

Is the explosion just a big flash that burns out is seconds ?


Basically yes. Some pieces of flying metal that hit deck metal even thicker
and bigger than the tank pieces.
Maybe break the lens on a camera or something.

Seriously, not a big deal.


Not to mention what you are getting, at worst, is an explosion
contained on one side (by the thick steel deck). This causes any
shock wave to go up and out, away from the barge. The mere fact that
there is structure down there and nowhere else makes that structure
less likely to be damaged by the explosion, as odd as that sounds.


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