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Old April 18th 04, 07:31 PM
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If the big bang happend once could it happen again, if so there may be an
infinit amount of universes.


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Old April 18th 04, 08:47 PM
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"L.Jones" wrote in message
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If the big bang happend once could it happen again, if so there may be an
infinit amount of universes.



I've often wondered if there were other universes so far from our own that
the light from them hasn't reached us yet. Space is infinite, it is
possible.


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Old April 18th 04, 08:47 PM
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"L.Jones" wrote in message
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If the big bang happend once could it happen again, if so there may be an
infinit amount of universes.



I've often wondered if there were other universes so far from our own that
the light from them hasn't reached us yet. Space is infinite, it is
possible.


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Old April 18th 04, 11:15 PM
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"CeeBee" wrote in message
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"Douglas A. Shrader" wrote in alt.astronomy.solar:


I've often wondered if there were other universes so far from our own
that the light from them hasn't reached us yet. Space is infinite, it
is possible.


We are contained in our own universe, and nothing from "outside" our
universe can reach us, else it would be _inside_ our universe.



I would consider "our" universe to be everything created by the big bang,
including all stars, galaxies, clusters, etc, all the way to the farthest
point at which such objects currently exist. Any object, say 200 billion
light years beyond this point is not in "our: universe, but in a seperate
one.


Space is not necessarily and most probably _not_ infinite, but finite.
This doesn't mean you can reach a boundary. The universe has most probably
a finite volume yet has no boundaries we can observe.



Space is the void in which all objects exist, it cannot have an end unless
something else exists beyond it. Since it extends in all directions that
something else would have to dwarf Space by many orders of magnitude, and
Space itself is to large to be measured, even if it isn't infinite. Space,
the void in which the Universe exists, must be infinite, even a closed
sphere would have to be contained within something, and that something would
itself have to be infinite.
The universe has boundaries, Space does not, so there can be other universes
floating in space to far away to be detected.
If any do exist there must be many, in all directions, whose gravitational
pull on our universe would cancel each others out, making detection
impossible.
Thus there is no true way to answer the question, except by speculation, and
none of us will ever know who is right, or if we are all wrong.




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Old April 18th 04, 11:15 PM
The Ancient One
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"CeeBee" wrote in message
. 6.83...
"Douglas A. Shrader" wrote in alt.astronomy.solar:


I've often wondered if there were other universes so far from our own
that the light from them hasn't reached us yet. Space is infinite, it
is possible.


We are contained in our own universe, and nothing from "outside" our
universe can reach us, else it would be _inside_ our universe.



I would consider "our" universe to be everything created by the big bang,
including all stars, galaxies, clusters, etc, all the way to the farthest
point at which such objects currently exist. Any object, say 200 billion
light years beyond this point is not in "our: universe, but in a seperate
one.


Space is not necessarily and most probably _not_ infinite, but finite.
This doesn't mean you can reach a boundary. The universe has most probably
a finite volume yet has no boundaries we can observe.



Space is the void in which all objects exist, it cannot have an end unless
something else exists beyond it. Since it extends in all directions that
something else would have to dwarf Space by many orders of magnitude, and
Space itself is to large to be measured, even if it isn't infinite. Space,
the void in which the Universe exists, must be infinite, even a closed
sphere would have to be contained within something, and that something would
itself have to be infinite.
The universe has boundaries, Space does not, so there can be other universes
floating in space to far away to be detected.
If any do exist there must be many, in all directions, whose gravitational
pull on our universe would cancel each others out, making detection
impossible.
Thus there is no true way to answer the question, except by speculation, and
none of us will ever know who is right, or if we are all wrong.




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Old April 19th 04, 11:40 AM
Mark Little
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"The Ancient One" wrote in message
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"CeeBee" wrote in message
. 6.83...
"Douglas A. Shrader" wrote in alt.astronomy.solar:


I've often wondered if there were other universes so far from our own
that the light from them hasn't reached us yet. Space is infinite, it
is possible.


We are contained in our own universe, and nothing from "outside" our
universe can reach us, else it would be _inside_ our universe.


Have a look at this web page
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html as it deals with these
issues. One of the interesting things is the chapter on parallel universes
and how they think the big bang occurred. Of course it is all theory since
no one has been able to get outside our universe to check. ;-)

Mark


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Old April 19th 04, 11:40 AM
Mark Little
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"The Ancient One" wrote in message
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"CeeBee" wrote in message
. 6.83...
"Douglas A. Shrader" wrote in alt.astronomy.solar:


I've often wondered if there were other universes so far from our own
that the light from them hasn't reached us yet. Space is infinite, it
is possible.


We are contained in our own universe, and nothing from "outside" our
universe can reach us, else it would be _inside_ our universe.


Have a look at this web page
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html as it deals with these
issues. One of the interesting things is the chapter on parallel universes
and how they think the big bang occurred. Of course it is all theory since
no one has been able to get outside our universe to check. ;-)

Mark


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Old April 27th 04, 10:38 PM
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In article , The Ancient One
wrote:

Space is the void in which all objects exist, it cannot have an end
unless something else exists beyond it. Since it extends in all
directions that something else would have to dwarf Space by many
orders of magnitude, and Space itself is to large to be measured,
even if it isn't infinite. Space, the void in which the Universe
exists, must be infinite, even a closed sphere would have to be
contained within something, and that something would itself have to
be infinite. The universe has boundaries, Space does not, so there
can be other universes floating in space to far away to be detected.
If any do exist there must be many, in all directions, whose
gravitational pull on our universe would cancel each others out,
making detection impossible. Thus there is no true way to answer the
question, except by speculation, and none of us will ever know who is
right, or if we are all wrong.


To project your ignorance upon others is to damn them to reside in the
same darkness in which you are immersed. Perhaps there are those who
know the truth but you unilaterally announce that no one does know.
One wonders how you obtained this wisdom. If you believe no one knows
then if a person who did know were to try to enlighten you there is no
way that you could accept such instruction. There is nothing ancient
about you except the darkness of your heart.

CCRyder (aka Charles Cagle)
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Old April 27th 04, 10:38 PM
CCRyder
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In article , The Ancient One
wrote:

Space is the void in which all objects exist, it cannot have an end
unless something else exists beyond it. Since it extends in all
directions that something else would have to dwarf Space by many
orders of magnitude, and Space itself is to large to be measured,
even if it isn't infinite. Space, the void in which the Universe
exists, must be infinite, even a closed sphere would have to be
contained within something, and that something would itself have to
be infinite. The universe has boundaries, Space does not, so there
can be other universes floating in space to far away to be detected.
If any do exist there must be many, in all directions, whose
gravitational pull on our universe would cancel each others out,
making detection impossible. Thus there is no true way to answer the
question, except by speculation, and none of us will ever know who is
right, or if we are all wrong.


To project your ignorance upon others is to damn them to reside in the
same darkness in which you are immersed. Perhaps there are those who
know the truth but you unilaterally announce that no one does know.
One wonders how you obtained this wisdom. If you believe no one knows
then if a person who did know were to try to enlighten you there is no
way that you could accept such instruction. There is nothing ancient
about you except the darkness of your heart.

CCRyder (aka Charles Cagle)
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Old April 28th 04, 04:47 AM
Douglas A. Shrader
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"CCRyder" wrote in message
...
In article , The Ancient One
wrote:

Space is the void in which all objects exist, it cannot have an end
unless something else exists beyond it. Since it extends in all
directions that something else would have to dwarf Space by many
orders of magnitude, and Space itself is to large to be measured,
even if it isn't infinite. Space, the void in which the Universe
exists, must be infinite, even a closed sphere would have to be
contained within something, and that something would itself have to
be infinite. The universe has boundaries, Space does not, so there
can be other universes floating in space to far away to be detected.
If any do exist there must be many, in all directions, whose
gravitational pull on our universe would cancel each others out,
making detection impossible. Thus there is no true way to answer the
question, except by speculation, and none of us will ever know who is
right, or if we are all wrong.


To project your ignorance upon others is to damn them to reside in the
same darkness in which you are immersed. Perhaps there are those who
know the truth but you unilaterally announce that no one does know.
One wonders how you obtained this wisdom. If you believe no one knows
then if a person who did know were to try to enlighten you there is no
way that you could accept such instruction. There is nothing ancient
about you except the darkness of your heart.

CCRyder (aka Charles Cagle)


Man, what an ignorant response you just gave.


 




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