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Old February 21st 10, 05:03 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
Roland Hutchinson
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:42:39 -0800, R H Draney wrote:

Bart Mathias filted:

James Hogg wrote:
[...]

Andrew Usher

Give the sound of your name, I suppose you would also renumber the
years, with year 1 in what is now 4004 BC.


Another one goes right over my head. What in the world is special about
how "Andrew Usher" sounds?

Oh, never mind. I just googled "4004 BC."


Guess you didn't need to have a house fall on you....r


Is it fall in the house of Ussher again already?

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  #102  
Old February 21st 10, 05:17 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang
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Brian M. Scott wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:49:14 -0000, Androcles
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"Brian M. Scott" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:12:09 -0800 (PST), Andrew Usher
wrote in

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[...]


And the first day of the week is Sunday, not Monday - that
is an incontrovertible fact.


Don't be ridiculous: it's merely a convention. For many of
us Monday is unquestionably the first day of the week.


Which day is Mittwoch


The middle of the five-day work week.


Spot on. :-)

That's why, for example, Russian names their days:
Понедельник вторник среда четверг пятница суббота воскресенье

вторник (Tuesday) cognate of 'second'
среда (Wednesday) - " - 'middle'
четверг (Thursday) - " - 'fourth'
пятница (Friday) - " - 'fifth'
:-)

pjk


and which god is it holy to?


The great god Muddle, also known as Woden, Mercurius,
Buddha, Mother Sereda, and Hump.

[...]


  #103  
Old February 21st 10, 05:20 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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On Feb 19, 11:25*am, Mike Barnes wrote:
John Atkinson :

Halmyre wrote:


I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it.


But, the whole point of Easter is that it has a full moon!


A full-*ish* moon, actually. The definitions of the equinox and full
moon used when determining Easter are rather different from the real
definitions used by astronomers, which would actually give rise to
different (perhaps several weeks different) Easter dates depending on
one's longitude.

But I thought that for most people the whole point of Easter is that
they get time off work.


not in the US, at least not in my state.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England


  #104  
Old February 21st 10, 05:33 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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Andrew Usher wrote:
Brian M. Scott wrote:

And trying to come up with a new calendar fixating on
Christmas is about as logical as fixating on Waitangi
Day.


This is just West-bashing.


Don't be silly: New Zealand is part of the cultural west.


But what the day commemorates is not.


Whatever gave you that idea, Andrew?

It commermorates an agreement between some Māori
tribes and British Crown. So even then, when it was being
signed, it was just as 'west' as it was 'southpacific'.

pjk

  #105  
Old February 21st 10, 07:12 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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Halmyre wrote:

I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it.


The present system might sound complicated, but it's a consistently
reliable method - at least in Australia - for predicting the arrival of
the first really rainy weekend in the year. This ensures that all the
people who go camping for the long weekend will be rained out, year
after year.

--
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  #106  
Old February 21st 10, 10:04 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
Mike Barnes
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Andrew Usher :
Mike Barnes wrote:
Adam Funk :
From man 5 crontab:

When specifying day of week, both day 0 and day 7 will be
considered Sunday. BSD and AT&T seem to disagree about this.


But they presumably agree that day one is Monday.


But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0
= Sunday.


Your humour bypass is showing.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
  #107  
Old February 21st 10, 10:06 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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Andrew Usher :
Mike Barnes wrote:
Andrew Usher :
And the first day of the week is Sunday, not Monday - that is an
incontrovertible fact.


Crap.


OK, it's a crap fact (?).


It's also a fact that no fact is incontrovertible.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
  #108  
Old February 21st 10, 11:42 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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Peter Moylan wrote:
Halmyre wrote:

I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it.


The present system might sound complicated, but it's a consistently
reliable method - at least in Australia - for predicting the arrival of
the first really rainy weekend in the year. This ensures that all the
people who go camping for the long weekend will be rained out, year
after year.


The local equivalent is May 24th weekend, variously known as the Queen's
Birthday, the 24th, Victoria Day etc. I think it's the opening of the
trout season, or possibly that for some other fish, and an enormous
number of people (not including me) go camping and fishing that long
weekend, fortified by lots of beer and food. And it almost invariably
rains. When it doesn't rain, it snows.

I once moved house on the May 24th weekend with the help of some
non-fishing friends, and we had freezing rain the whole time, which made
going up and down the outside steps challenging. I should have known better.

--
Cheryl
  #109  
Old February 21st 10, 01:13 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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Andrew Usher wrote:
Mike Barnes wrote:
Adam Funk :
From man 5 crontab:
When specifying day of week, both day 0 and day 7 will be
considered Sunday. BSD and AT&T seem to disagree about this.

But they presumably agree that day one is Monday.


But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0
= Sunday.

Where do you get that idea?

/BAH
  #110  
Old February 21st 10, 01:27 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english
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On Feb 21, 12:20*am, Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
On Feb 19, 11:25*am, Mike Barnes wrote:





John Atkinson :


Halmyre wrote:


I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it.


But, the whole point of Easter is that it has a full moon!


A full-*ish* moon, actually. The definitions of the equinox and full
moon used when determining Easter are rather different from the real
definitions used by astronomers, which would actually give rise to
different (perhaps several weeks different) Easter dates depending on
one's longitude.


But I thought that for most people the whole point of Easter is that
they get time off work.


not in the US, at least not in my state.


? Time off? Offices aren't open on Sundays anyway, and retail stores
haven't closed on holidays in years.
 




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