Elon Musk other ideas:)

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the new google groups dont permit easy quoting, google groups since the old format went away have largely died......

And you've been told repeatedly to stop using Google's crippled web
based interface for Usenet News, especially since you can't seem to use
it properly!

MicroPlanet Gravity is a free Usenet News program. The quoting style is
exactly what you see me using. Eternal September is a free Usenet News
Server, so it costs just as little as Google. Considering how Eternal
September got its name, this server makes me smile, especially when
replying to you since you have never gotten out of the noob phase of
your Usenet News existence.

So which is it, are you too lazy to set the two up on your computer or
do you lack the requisite computer skills to do so?

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

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says...

bob haller wrote:

the new google groups dont permit easy quoting, google groups since the old format went away have largely died......

So get a real newsreader and a real newsfeed. Everyone else seems to
manage it just fine. Surely you can, too.

Me thinks you overestimate his computer skilz.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On 2013-07-21 21:12:41 +0000, jacob navia said:

3) Security; Train accidents here in Europe are very rare. Much
lower than cars or busses.

But they do happen, as in today. 45 Killed, hundreds hurt in a Spanish
accident.

Sympathies go out to the families of the victims.

In article 2013072418572084269-rblove@airmailnet,
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On 2013-07-21 21:12:41 +0000, jacob navia said:

3) Security; Train accidents here in Europe are very rare. Much
lower than cars or busses.

But they do happen, as in today. 45 Killed, hundreds hurt in a Spanish
accident.

Sympathies go out to the families of the victims.

Latest update (from cnn.com):

An express train capable of going 155 mph derailed on a
curve in northwestern Spain. At least 77 people died. The
"tragedy appears to be linked to the train going too fast",
an official says.

A horrible accident, for sure. But, in the long run, this won't end
travel by train. The accident will be investigated, the most likely
root cause (or causes) found, and fixes will be made, wherever possible,
to prevent the same sort of accident from happening again.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

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says...

"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
...
...
MicroPlanet Gravity is a free Usenet News program. The quoting style is
exactly what you see me using. Eternal September is a free Usenet News
Server, so it costs just as little as Google.
...
Jeff
--

Thanks for that info. I hadn't heard of the free news server
eternal-september.org before. I'm using it now.

It seems to work fine for me. There are occasional hick-ups of the
server, but since it's free, I can't complain much.

BTW, my news reader when it pulls up a response window always puts the
quoted text below the space where I'm going to type in a response post. I've
been cutting and pasting my response below the quoted text. Is this common
for news readers?

The quoting style I use is typical of "old style" newsreaders. That
style has always been considered proper Netiquette for Usenet News.

Zen and the Art of the Internet - Usenet News - Quoting
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject...0_6.html#SEC51

I believe that MicroPlanet Gravity uses this style of quoting by
default. I've also got it set up to display all text in a "fixed width
font" since I also like to read my news like it's on an old ASCII dumb
terminal. :-)


By the way, the publication "Zen and the Art of the Internet" is one,
very old, resource which has a wealth of information about Netiquette.

Zen and the Art of the Internet - Usenet News - Quoting
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject...0_6.html#SEC51

Table of contents he

Zen and the Art of the Internet
A Beginner's Guide to the Internet, First Edition, January 1992
by Brendan P. Kehoe
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject...n-1.0_toc.html

This came out about 4 years after I first started using Usenet News.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer