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Old August 11th 04, 03:08 PM
Jim Oberg
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FYI:


A very handsome 50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
and background
can be downloaded in pdf form from
http://www.federalspace.ru/video/Progress_M50_www.pdf

Specific mission details (in Russian) can be read at
http://www.federalspace.ru/Start1Show.asp?STARTID=574

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Old August 11th 04, 06:32 PM
Jeff Findley
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
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FYI:


A very handsome 50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
and background
can be downloaded in pdf form from
http://www.federalspace.ru/video/Progress_M50_www.pdf


Thanks for the link.

It sounds like those "DVD's and magazines" that the popular press reffered
to are listed in the payload as part of this:

Crew support complex/hardware elements
(flight data files, 3 packages for the crew members,
video and photographic
material) .............................................23 kg

Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing that
DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg.

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Old August 11th 04, 10:41 PM
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"Jeff Findley" wrote:

Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing that
DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg.


In 4-5 kg I imagine you could fit at least 6 medium sized magazines
(SI, Time) and an equal number of DVD's.

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Old August 12th 04, 02:21 PM
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Jeff Findley" wrote:

Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing

that
DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg.


In 4-5 kg I imagine you could fit at least 6 medium sized magazines
(SI, Time) and an equal number of DVD's.


I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such
a small part of the Progress payload. The Russians have had a long standing
tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their space
stations, so I'm sure they think it's worth the weight.

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Old August 12th 04, 02:30 PM
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I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such
a small part of the Progress payload. The Russians have had a long standing
tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their space
stations, so I'm sure they think it's


Not really as complaint, under normal circumstances I wouldnt of brought it up.
But given the tight supply situation perhaps a space suit part might have been
a better choice?
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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Old August 12th 04, 02:43 PM
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"bob haller" wrote in message
...

I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's

such
a small part of the Progress payload. The Russians have had a long

standing
tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their

space
stations, so I'm sure they think it's


Not really as complaint, under normal circumstances I wouldnt of brought

it up.
But given the tight supply situation perhaps a space suit part might have

been
a better choice?


As Derek said in his replies, when times are tough, these morale boosting
materials are *more* important.

With weight at a premium on the LEM, you still thought that hitting a golf
ball on the moon was worth it. On such a short trip, the need for this (in
terms of morale) would be far less than on a six month stay on ISS.

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Old August 12th 04, 05:20 PM
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With weight at a premium on the LEM, you still thought that hitting a golf
ball on the moon was worth it. On such a short trip, the need for this (in
terms of morale) would be far less than on a six month stay on ISS.



The main problem on LMs was takeoff weight, obviously the golf ball was left
behind...

crew morale is certinally important, why not send up some dancin girls for
recreation
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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Old August 12th 04, 05:36 PM
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Default 50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50

On 2004-08-12, bob haller wrote:

With weight at a premium on the LEM, you still thought that hitting a golf
ball on the moon was worth it. On such a short trip, the need for this (in
terms of morale) would be far less than on a six month stay on ISS.



The main problem on LMs was takeoff weight, obviously the golf ball was left
behind...

crew morale is certinally important, why not send up some dancin girls for
recreation


Anecdotally, the first Skylab crew were told that thanks to the fact
they were using a S-V launch, weight restrictions were flexible; there
would be an allocation of a couple of hundred pounds for entertainment
items and the like, and did they have any suggestions?

They were shortly asked for any *other* suggestions...

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Old August 12th 04, 06:49 PM
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"Jeff Findley" wrote:
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
...
"Jeff Findley" wrote:

Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing
that DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg.


In 4-5 kg I imagine you could fit at least 6 medium sized magazines
(SI, Time) and an equal number of DVD's.


I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such
a small part of the Progress payload.


bob goes out of his way sometimes to find things to bitch about. But
this really does fit his pattern.

The Russians have had a long standing tradition of sending up such morale
boosting personal items to their space stations, so I'm sure they think it's
worth the weight.


However bob is more interested in the appearance (replacing badly
needed supplies with luxury items) than the reality ('luxury' items
that help keep the crew sane).

D.
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Old August 12th 04, 07:23 PM
Jeff Findley
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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However bob is more interested in the appearance (replacing badly
needed supplies with luxury items) than the reality ('luxury' items
that help keep the crew sane).


You've nailed it. I think I'll start calling him Shallow Bob, so I'll never
forget his motivation.

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