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Old May 27th 05, 09:46 PM
Chef!
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Ian Sharp wrote:
This comes from having the best all round knowledge of
astronomy of anyone living...


Got any evidence of that?

His treatment and knowledge of deep-sky observing and objects has always
been cursory at best and nothing shows this better than the obscenity that
goes by the name of the Caldwell catalogue.

And of course, there are shedloads of US amateurs that would put him to
shame, given half a chance and probably more than a few UK ones come to
that.

Regards,
Chef!


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Old May 27th 05, 09:48 PM
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"Clive" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:47:28 +0100, "David Sewell"
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When is the next issue out? i would like to get hold of a copy as i
seem to have missed the first one


Hi Clive,
Issue 2 on sale 28 June 2005
Regards,
David


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Old May 27th 05, 10:05 PM
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:40 +0100, Clive wrote:

When is the next issue out? i would like to get hold of a copy as i
seem to have missed the first one


Issue one was released on the 24th June Clive. I would be surprised
if they have all gone!
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Old May 27th 05, 10:06 PM
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:05:52 +0100, Pete Lawrence
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:40 +0100, Clive wrote:

When is the next issue out? i would like to get hold of a copy as i
seem to have missed the first one


Issue one was released on the 24th June Clive. I would be surprised
if they have all gone!


Argh - 24th of May not June!!!
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Old May 28th 05, 12:26 AM
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"Pete Lawrence" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:40 +0100, Clive wrote:

When is the next issue out? i would like to get hold of a copy as i
seem to have missed the first one


Issue one was released on the 24th June Clive. I would be surprised
if they have all gone!
--


Gave up waiting for the complementary copy ;-) and got one from WH Smiths in
Carlisle today. Selling like hot cakes apparently. I got the last one but
they were expecting to get more in.

Robin


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Old May 28th 05, 02:26 PM
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'Chef' wrote

Got any evidence of that?

His treatment and knowledge of deep-sky observing and objects has
always
been cursory at best and nothing shows this better than the obscenity
that
goes by the name of the Caldwell catalogue.


And of course, there are shedloads of US amateurs that would put him to

shame, given half a chance and probably more than a few UK ones come to

that.


Regards,
Chef!


I'm sure that there are plenty of people who know more about astronomy
than him, but few who have done so much to popularise it, both in this
country and throughout the world.

As to the Caldwell Catalogue - 'obscenity'? What strange area,
detached from the real universe, does this comment come from? It is a
list - good, bad or indifferent - nothing else. I really, really wish
that the standard of the Caldwell Catalogue was the biggest problem I
had.

Do you notice how people who write this sort of stuff are too cowardly
to use their real names?


Roger

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Old May 28th 05, 03:58 PM
Clive
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:06:35 +0100, Pete Lawrence
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:05:52 +0100, Pete Lawrence
wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:40 +0100, Clive wrote:

When is the next issue out? i would like to get hold of a copy as i
seem to have missed the first one


Issue one was released on the 24th June Clive. I would be surprised
if they have all gone!


Argh - 24th of May not June!!!


thx david and pete, i was was wondering how david said issue 2 was out
on the 28th june and you said issue 1 was out on the 24th june
if thats the case i`ll go have a look round thanks again
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Old May 28th 05, 04:15 PM
Pete Lawrence
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:46:18 GMT, "Chef!"
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Ian Sharp wrote:
This comes from having the best all round knowledge of
astronomy of anyone living...


Got any evidence of that?

His treatment and knowledge of deep-sky observing and objects has always
been cursory at best and nothing shows this better than the obscenity that
goes by the name of the Caldwell catalogue.


Interesting description of the Caldwell catalogue. Why is it an
obscenity in your opinion? You give me your version and then I'll give
you the version from the horse's mouth so to speak ;-)

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Old May 28th 05, 04:25 PM
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Robin Leadbeater wrote:

"Pete Lawrence" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:40 +0100, Clive wrote:

When is the next issue out? i would like to get hold of a copy as i
seem to have missed the first one


Issue one was released on the 24th June Clive. I would be surprised
if they have all gone!
--


Gave up waiting for the complementary copy ;-) and got one from WH Smiths in
Carlisle today. Selling like hot cakes apparently. I got the last one but
they were expecting to get more in.


The Smiths in Stafford doesn't seem to have any. I was in a rush so I
couldn't find out if they'd sold out or just didn't have it to begin
with.

Jim
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Old May 28th 05, 06:57 PM
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Thanks to Das' glowing online review the S@N Mag Ist Edition and CD are
already changing hands at several thousand dollars on ebay. Non-winning
bidders are already being offered reserve copies. The 2nd, 3rd & 4th
Editions are already available as fileshare-downloads. Several embedded
virii has been detected by Norton and Adaware are said to be working on
a patch to cope with the horrendous number of tracking cookies on the
original CD. A copy has been placed in a time-capsule under the
foundations of the New Hurstmonceux Observatory in Antarctica. Nigerian
businessmen are offering venture capital in the BBC S&N as a holey
owned subsidgary. Nasa has flown the first Edition sans CD to the
ISS/Soyuz breakers yard as recycled toilet paper to make the Russian
cosmonoughts feel really at home. Yahoo UFO "Been There Done That" has
posts claiming Alien workmanship due to the unique numerology used by
the illustrations in the S&N Magazine.

Chris.B

 




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