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Old March 16th 05, 10:27 PM
Pat Flannery
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Rand Simberg wrote:

Depends on calibre and muzzle velocity. With fish like Eric, though,
a shotgun is adequate, and one shot will do ya.



Ahh... unless you are using a slug, the shotgun projectile will probably
have more than one piece of shot in it- that's why they call it a
"shotgun"- because it fires multiple shot rather than a bullet... I
still think this is an odd way to fish, but using thermite to boil a
pond full of ducks is a little odd also, but at least does not lack in
imagination.

Pat
  #323  
Old March 16th 05, 10:30 PM
Rand Simberg
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:09:53 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
(Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: I have stood more times for the presentation of the colors at civilian
: events in the past five years than in the past 25 years. I notice things
: like that as I'm an Army brat.

: How much parading did you do? Did your feet get tired? Was it at
: gunpoint?

: You didn't answer my question. What kind of uniform were you forced
: to wear?

I was speaking about parading as a spectator sport.


That's not what Pat was talking about, so your response to him (like
many of your responses to many people) was a total idiotic
non-sequitur.

: Do you have an us/them attitude with the troops too?

: Of course.

: They are the troops. I am a civilian. People who confuse the two and
: can't tell which they are, and try to pass themselves off as the
: other, go to jail or the brig.

We are all Americans, and if attacked they are no different than we are.


I never said they weren't Americans. But if we are attacked, they are
different than we are. They have tanks, and guns, and belts of
ammunition, and airplanes and stuff.

And uniforms. ;-)

Do you even have a clue what the Second Amendment means?


Yes.

: What do you think you are?

An American, just like the troops.

Would you go to war if drafted? It sounds like you would not.


Only to an illogical moron. You're not an illogical moron, are you?
  #324  
Old March 16th 05, 11:06 PM
Rand Simberg
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:36 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Ami
Silberman" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

: So, you believe that an employer should have the right to pay an
employee
: anything he wants to?

: Of course, contingent on a mutually-agreed employment contract.


Which is why we need labor unions, since the leverage that someone filling a
totally fungible low-level postion has is zip compared to the leverage of a
multi-million dollar company.


What leverage is needed? If the employee doesn't get paid what was
stipulated at the time of hire, the employer is in breach of the
contract, and he can quit, just as he can be fired if he doesn't do
the job. That's why it's a mutually-agreed employment contract.
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Old March 16th 05, 11:33 PM
Rand Simberg
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:21:32 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

: So, you believe that an employer should have the right to pay an employee
: anything he wants to?

: Of course, contingent on a mutually-agreed employment contract.

So, the govt. stepping in with minimum wage was a lousy idea, right? Are
you aware that we used to have sweat shops like third world countries do
now?



The mutually agreed contract being that massah give you a bread crust
and not whip the livin' **** outta you if you work for massah.


No, that would be slavery.
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Old March 16th 05, 11:42 PM
Andrew Gray
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On 2005-03-16, Eric Chomko wrote:

MOSSAD, SAVAK, or MI5, or is it MI6? I always get those two confused.


MI5 - the Security Service - is internal security; MI6 - the Secret
Intelligence Service - is espionage and related "external security". MI5
also has the counter-terrorism remit, and in the last ten years has
been tasked with some serious-crime work. MI6 contains the remnants of
the SOE, roughly the equivalent of the OSS.

The MI numbers date back to WWI/II; the current forms come from postwar,
when all the other MI- departments were abolished. (It stood for
"Military Intelligence", with an impressive array of groups - MI9
specialised in POW escapes, for example).

Other organisations, if memory serves, are GCHQ - the signals-intercept
people - and the Defence Intelligence Staff, which is pretty much what
it sounds like it is. There's also the various police forces' Special
Branches (most famously that of the Metropolitan Police), which have a
quasi-intelligence role in some contexts.

There, that ought to thoroughly confuse you...

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-Andrew Gray

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Old March 16th 05, 11:48 PM
Rand Simberg
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On 16 Mar 2005 20:37:02 GMT, in a place far, far away, Andrew Gray
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

: Of course, contingent on a mutually-agreed employment contract.

Which is why we need labor unions, since the leverage that someone filling a
totally fungible low-level postion has is zip compared to the leverage of a
multi-million dollar company.


What leverage is needed? If the employee doesn't get paid what was
stipulated at the time of hire, the employer is in breach of the
contract, and he can quit, just as he can be fired if he doesn't do
the job. That's why it's a mutually-agreed employment contract.


The leverage to *get* an acceptable contract is what I suspect Ami is
referring to;


Ahhh, then by "leverage," perhaps he meant by establishing a labor
monopoly through worker intimidation. Well, that wouldn't constitute
mutual agreement to me, if it was coerced.
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Old March 16th 05, 11:51 PM
Rand Simberg
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:45:02 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg wrote:

You can't even tell when people (including Pat) are making fun of you.


I'm not making fun of Eric, Rand.
I'm making fun of _you_.


I would think a man of your perverse talents capable of both.

Of course, making fun of Eric is like shooting piscine prey in a
barrel. On the other hand, the fact that they're in a barrel doesn't
mean that the fish shouldn't be shot.
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Old March 17th 05, 12:02 AM
Derek Lyons
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote:


"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...
Wal-Mart; which is one of the few surviving stores in my town of 15,000,
thanks to their running everybody else out of business with all their
Chinese imports.


Oh, piffle. Wal-Mart is a problem only for those businesses that try to
compete on Wal-Mart's terms, instead of on their own terms.


ROTFLMAO.

Offer something the public is willing to pay for that Wal-Mart doesn't, and
you stay in business.


Given the breadth of Wal-Mart's stock, and the public fixation on low
cost, that's pretty hard.

Wal-Mart didn't do dick to my sales.


That's extraordinarily unusual.

D.
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-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
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Old March 17th 05, 12:07 AM
Rand Simberg
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:56:06 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

No, that would be slavery.


Have you ever heard the term "wage slave"?


Yes.

It's hyperbole. No one is forcing anyone to work for that wage for
that employer. One is always free to seek a better opportunity. That
they are unable or unwilling to find one doesn't make their employer a
slavemaster.
 




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