beginner info needed about scopes and binoculars

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:26:51 GMT, in uk.sci.astronomy , "Richard"
wrote:


"Mark McIntyre" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:11:16 GMT, in uk.sci.astronomy , "Richard"
wrote:

One thought - you have a pair of crap binoculars. I bought a pair of
7x50s (£50) from the wide screen centre in London and they're
excellent value. Watching the clouds in front of the moon right now
with them.

I am using a pair of 7x50's myself. They are clear but the mag is not as
good as the old telescope I have.

This is inevitable as they're only x7. OTOH they've as much
light-gathering ability as a 70mm refractor which would cost you
rather more!

And to me, not ideal for close examination.

Well yes, they're not going to be any use for detailed examination of
DSOs or the planets. OTOH they're excellent for browsing the heavens,
becoming more familiar with where things are, looking at some of the
brighter nebulae, and the moon. I use mine as a travel telescope, and
for use when I'm too lazy to leave my loft study. I can stand on a
chair with the binocs and see pretty much all the western and southern
sky, and at x7 the heat haze from the house is not an issue.

They simply don't listen to my opinion and won't accept that anyone else has
a valid point of view

Well, the same could rather be said of you.
And FWIW some of hte people you're arguing with are very experienced.
If they're suggesting you're wrong, its probably because....

There speaks the voice of inexperience !!

Maybe so, but this WILL take some beating.

Pop into Comp.lang.c, and read the "Mastering C Pointers" thread....
and even this is mild to what I've seen in uk.rec.motorcycles

*sigh*. Please review your own posts.

not one of you has given an example. Please do so...

OK then, since you asked:
"Richard" wrote
And another thing...are you watching the eclipse tonight or is the fact that your
heads are so far up your own arses stopping you?

"Richard" wrote
all you can do is come out with a load of bitter and twisted ****e.

"Richard" wrote
You weren't giving advice. You just didn't like me and wanted an argument.


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Richard
In answer to your original question the Orion (US) starblast got a very good
review in sky and telescope. It's only a 4 1/2" scope but I think it's ideal
for a beginner.

see:
http://www.scsastro.co.uk/pages/begi..._starblast.htm

--
Mike Collins
UK
Mike&heather-at-oakwellmount-dot-freeserve-dot-co-dot-uk

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"Mike & Heather Collins" wrote
in message ...
Richard
In answer to your original question the Orion (US) starblast got a very
good
review in sky and telescope. It's only a 4 1/2" scope but I think it's
ideal
for a beginner.

see:
http://www.scsastro.co.uk/pages/begi..._starblast.htm

--
Mike Collins
UK
Mike&heather-at-oakwellmount-dot-freeserve-dot-co-dot-uk


Cheers

FECK OFF CUP!!

(Mrs Doyle) wrote in message . com...


Drrrrrrrrink, Feck, Arse, Guurlls

GOB****

So what would you say to a nice wee cup of tea now Father?

Let me make the tea. The rev. makes more sense than anything else
I've seen in this thread. Apologists for poor behaviour deserve the
hiding they're likely to get from the likes of Richard (and that other
bloke hawking his wares if he should choose to come back under some
other alias). Where do you draw the line between a troll and a
foul-mouthed "novice" with more venom than a football skinhead? Let
him scrawl his 'wisdom' in a public toilet instead. The true seeker of
information bends with the wind and uses the correct body language.
Richard just 'dumps' wherever (and whenever) he feels the need.

Grinch

"Laurencelman" wrote in message
...
Patrick Moore has been recorded as saying that the minimum aperture which
should be considered for someone taking up serious amateur astronomy is 6"
in a
Newtonian reflector.



IIRC, he said a 6" reflector, or a 3" refractor.


Dave