The Tides

oriel36 wrote:
On Feb 24, 5:10 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Feb 24, 3:00 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

Just answer Gallileo's question. How often do you look at the Moon or
planets through a telescope? Perhaps you do have the lazy obstinacy of a
serpent who has eaten his fill.

It came as a surprise when I encountered the essay of Wallis on tides
which precedes Newton's agenda by 20 years yet contains a great deal
of information which later was attributed to Newton.The differences in
the tone of both works is that the approach of Wallis does not
constitute edicts but rather loose correlations between cause and
effect at a human/experimental level transposed to large scale motions
such as dynamical effects on the tides.

http://rstl.royalsocietypublishing.o....full.pdf+html

I am not an empiricist by virtue of a different approach to
observations which contemporary advances allow so it is not so
difficult to point out what they were trying to do in the late 17th
century and why it doesn't work.I was slightly surprised that
empiricists themselves have no interest whatsoever in Newton's
absolute/relative time,space and motion as it is set against the
original framework of the great planetary astronomers as opposed to
the early 20th century attempt which merely chopped these absolute/
relative terms to pieces and reconstructed a different story that
retained all the errors of the original.It is much like today where
the 'solar vs sidereal' junk is being jettisoned for an equally poor
construct of idealistic 24 hour rotation back in the year 1820.It is
as though the only means to escape Newton's clockwork solar system was
to create the perception of unintelligibility apart from superior
intellects when all that happened was Newton's overall agenda remained
protected behind a cloak of obfuscation and downright deceit,works
well if you can get away with it,even for a century,but ultimately it
diminishes humanity and all sciences.

The current path of empiricism serves nobody as it is heavily weighed
towards civil conveniences and apart from flinging loose assertions at
astronomy and planetary dynamics,these guys couldn't care less as
their agenda is skewed towards individual conveniences rather than the
connection between the individual and the Universal which occupies
those at a higher astronomical level.

I do look out at the moon and its orbital phases and see it change
its position over the course of time but somehow your community has
forced itself to believe the moon spins 360 degrees apart from its
monthly orbital motion of the Earth and this is repulsive by virtue
that all your other perceptions are more of the same and especially
the attempt to corrupt the connection between one rotation and one 24
hour day.

Just answer Gallileo's question. How often do you look at the Moon or
planets through a telescope? Perhaps you do have the lazy obstinacy of a
serpent who has eaten his fill.

In fairness,even though Galileo could have promoted the telescope
above the discoveries of Copernicus,he chose to relegate telescopes as
tools which help make the Earth's planetary dynamics more accessible
to the wider population but even the invention of the telescope pales
in comparison to what any interested reader here can do with
contemporary tools such as sequential imaging

"SALV.But the telescope plainly shows us its horns to be as bounded
and distinct as those of the moon, and they are seen to belong to a
very large circle, in a ratio almost forty times as great as the same
disc when it is beyond the sun, toward the end of its morning
appearances. "
SAGR. Oh Nicholas Copernicus, what a pleasure it would have been for
you to see this part of your system confirmed by so clear an
experiment [telescope]!
SALV. Yes, but how much less would his sublime intellect be
celebrated
among the learned! "
Galileo ,Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, 1632

http://www.masil-astro-imaging.com/S...age%20flat.jpg

Seeing history come to life in such a spectacular way hardly appeals
to your community which refuses to accept the proper resolution of
retrogrades yet does not shy away from quoting Galileo.Look through
the telescope !,I am the biggest user of imaging on this forum to
carry a point and regret that graphic experts don't apply their
skills to making these images easier to comprehend.

Just answer Gallileo's question. How often do you look at the Moon or
planets through a telescope? Perhaps you do have the lazy obstinacy of a
serpent who has eaten his fill.