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Old August 3rd 06, 07:28 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
Pat Flannery
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DA wrote:

tml.

It actually says "Buran prototype" and it's hard to say how close it is to
the real thing. Some parts of its hardware are definitely not flight
worthy, such as those ugly stand-offs on the back.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...s/Img_018.html




I wonder what those are about? That's where the RCS housings were in the
flight article. The center box almost looks like a drag chute housing.
Buran could be carried around (minus its vertical fin) with a
aerodynamic fairing over the tail by the "Atlant" carrier aircraft:
http://www.buran.ru/images/gif/atlant3.gif
Those units might be where the fairing was attached.

Pat
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Old August 3rd 06, 07:32 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
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Skylon wrote:

Wow. That cockpit looks familiar...



Here's one in more detail:
http://www.buran.ru/htm/soi.htm

Pat
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Old August 3rd 06, 08:01 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
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Jim Oberg wrote:
It's where a new roof sill is under construction.

"Ed Kyle" wrote
Look at the right roof edge, where it's being repaired:
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...es/Img_061.jpg


Interesting. But why?

- Ed Kyle


Right. But why are they rebuilding it? This building was not in use
when the roof collapsed, was it?

- Ed Kyle

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Old August 3rd 06, 08:21 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:01:31 -0500, Ed Kyle wrote
(in article .com):


Jim Oberg wrote:
It's where a new roof sill is under construction.

"Ed Kyle" wrote
Look at the right roof edge, where it's being repaired:
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...ery_089/images
/Img_061.jpg

Interesting. But why?

- Ed Kyle


Right. But why are they rebuilding it? This building was not in use
when the roof collapsed, was it?

- Ed Kyle


Maybe they plan on restoring/rebuilding and displaying one of the
various prototype and test articles laying around and want to house it
there.

--
Herb

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unfortunately, no one we know belongs."
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Old August 3rd 06, 09:03 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Skylon wrote:

Wow. That cockpit looks familiar...


Here's one in more detail:
http://www.buran.ru/htm/soi.htm


The overall layout may appear similar, but the details are all different. I
pulled my shuttle cockpit photo off the wall and held it in my hand while
looking at the close ups of the Buran. Aside from the placement of the
three CRT's, the details of the control panel are completely different.

Check out the US shuttle cockpit he

http://www.spaceevent.com/images/des...le_cockpit.jpg

Note the use of many dial type gauges in the Soviet version where the US
version has many linear type gauges.

Jeff
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety"
- B. Franklin, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (1919)


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Old August 3rd 06, 10:33 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
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Jeff Findley wrote:

ferent.

Check out the US shuttle cockpit he

http://www.spaceevent.com/images/des...le_cockpit.jpg

Note the use of many dial type gauges in the Soviet version where the US
version has many linear type gauges.




Here's an equivalent shot of the Buran cockpit:
http://www.buran.ru/images/jpg/end7.jpg
Buran looks more like the interior of a military aircraft, ours more
like the interior of a Apollo spacecraft.
Buran also appears to have moved most of the circuit breaker switches
off of the ceiling and put them above the control panel and on the
cockpit sidewalls: http://www.buran.ru/images/jpg/end21.jpg
While they were busy not copying the Shuttle, they were also busy not
copying certain Shuttle subsystems:
http://www.buran.ru/htm/bighand.htm
One almost expects to see "Kanada" on it, doesn't one? :-D

Pat
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Old August 4th 06, 06:50 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
Derek Lyons
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"Skylon" wrote:


Jim Oberg wrote:
A tour group just returned from Baykonur
with some routine launch pad (and Nedelin
disaster site) photographs, plus some great
new view INSIDE the outdoor-parked Buran.

See
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...089/index.html.



Wow. That cockpit looks familiar...


There's only so many ways you can design a cockpit.

D.
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Old August 4th 06, 08:23 PM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,alt.astronomy
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Jeff Findley wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...


Skylon wrote:

Wow. That cockpit looks familiar...


Here's one in more detail:
http://www.buran.ru/htm/soi.htm


The overall layout may appear similar, but the details are all different. I
pulled my shuttle cockpit photo off the wall and held it in my hand while
looking at the close ups of the Buran. Aside from the placement of the
three CRT's, the details of the control panel are completely different.

Check out the US shuttle cockpit he

http://www.spaceevent.com/images/des...le_cockpit.jpg

Note the use of many dial type gauges in the Soviet version where the US
version has many linear type gauges.

Jeff
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety"
- B. Franklin, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (1919)


I stand corrected. The stripped down one mainly looked a lot like
shuttle's cockpit because of the locations for the three CRT's.

Based on the photos of the fully equipped cockpit though, it is a good
deal different.

Thanks for posting the pics!

-A.L.

 




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