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Old September 12th 07, 08:14 PM posted to sci.space.station
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)
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Try http://www.heavens-above.com/

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Hello

I'm looking for some http stream with gps data (gga, rmc) with current
position of ISS. Do You know some?
I'll be happy even if this data is on WWW or on other pupular file type
that I can download to my PC.

Thanks !

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Old September 12th 07, 09:41 PM posted to sci.space.station
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Hello

I'm looking for some http stream with gps data (gga, rmc) with current
position of ISS. Do You know some?
I'll be happy even if this data is on WWW or on other pupular file type
that I can download to my PC.

Thanks !

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Old September 12th 07, 10:38 PM posted to sci.space.station
snidely
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On Sep 12, 12:14 pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:
Tryhttp://www.heavens-above.com/


for NASA resources, the page at http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/
tracking/ can probably be mined. See also the JTrack page, http://
science.nasa.gov/Realtime/jtrack/Spacecraft.html

/dps

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Old September 13th 07, 11:57 AM posted to sci.space.station
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Dnia 12-09-2007 o 21:38:16 snidely napisa³(a):

for NASA resources, the page at http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/
tracking/ can probably be mined. See also the JTrack page, http://
science.nasa.gov/Realtime/jtrack/Spacecraft.html


Well I can't mined it from my C program. I need informations in pure text,
not in Java application or in image.

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Old September 13th 07, 07:07 PM posted to sci.space.station
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dienet wrote in
news
Hello

I'm looking for some http stream with gps data (gga, rmc) with current
position of ISS. Do You know some?
I'll be happy even if this data is on WWW or on other pupular file

type
that I can download to my PC.

Thanks !


Here are to-day's TLE's (two-line elements) for the ISS.
perhaps you can do something with them.
with the proper tracking program you can have an output that meets your
requirments.
Myself, I use a DOS based tracking program written by the late
Dave Ransom, there are others out there, written for other platforms
that can output whatever format you want.

ISS (ZARYA)
1 25544U 98067A 07255.82315875 .00012322 00000-0 78817-4 0 9690
2 25544 51.6366 11.6751 0008809 2.3368 137.4270 15.76764337504605
SOYUZ-TMA 10
1 31100U 07008A 07254.54110510 .00013107 00000-0 83687-4 0 1210
2 31100 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 24734
PROGRESS-M 60
1 31393U 07017A 07255.49808975 .00012467 00000-0 79723-4 0 1672
2 31393 51.6371 13.3504 0008755 1.5580 91.7615 15.76756778 19484
PROGRESS-M 61
1 32001U 07033A 07254.54110510 .00013107 00000-0 83687-4 0 353
2 32001 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 6296

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Old September 13th 07, 09:14 PM posted to sci.space.station
André, PE1PQX
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John Szalay was zeer hard aan het denken :
dienet wrote in
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Hello

I'm looking for some http stream with gps data (gga, rmc) with current
position of ISS. Do You know some?
I'll be happy even if this data is on WWW or on other pupular file type
that I can download to my PC.

Thanks !


Here are to-day's TLE's (two-line elements) for the ISS.
perhaps you can do something with them.
with the proper tracking program you can have an output that meets your
requirments.
Myself, I use a DOS based tracking program written by the late
Dave Ransom, there are others out there, written for other platforms
that can output whatever format you want.

ISS (ZARYA)
1 25544U 98067A 07255.82315875 .00012322 00000-0 78817-4 0 9690
2 25544 51.6366 11.6751 0008809 2.3368 137.4270 15.76764337504605
SOYUZ-TMA 10
1 31100U 07008A 07254.54110510 .00013107 00000-0 83687-4 0 1210
2 31100 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 24734
PROGRESS-M 60
1 31393U 07017A 07255.49808975 .00012467 00000-0 79723-4 0 1672
2 31393 51.6371 13.3504 0008755 1.5580 91.7615 15.76756778 19484
PROGRESS-M 61
1 32001U 07033A 07254.54110510 .00013107 00000-0 83687-4 0 353
2 32001 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 6296


Have an other question:

All these components are docked, why are these lines all differend??
A.F.A.I.K. all of this are at the same place??

André


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Old September 13th 07, 11:44 PM posted to sci.space.station
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Dnia 13-09-2007 o 18:07:55 John Szalay
napisa³(a):

Here are to-day's TLE's (two-line elements) for the ISS.
perhaps you can do something with them.


Well if they're update more then once in mintute then send me link to them
(http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt - ?).
I hope I can grab from them lat an lon.

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Old September 14th 07, 01:31 AM posted to sci.space.station
Jorge R. Frank
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André wrote:
John Szalay was zeer hard aan het denken :

ISS (ZARYA) 1 25544U 98067A 07255.82315875 .00012322
00000-0 78817-4 0 9690
2 25544 51.6366 11.6751 0008809 2.3368 137.4270 15.76764337504605
SOYUZ-TMA 10 1 31100U 07008A 07254.54110510 .00013107
00000-0 83687-4 0 1210
2 31100 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 24734
PROGRESS-M 60 1 31393U 07017A 07255.49808975 .00012467
00000-0 79723-4 0 1672
2 31393 51.6371 13.3504 0008755 1.5580 91.7615 15.76756778 19484
PROGRESS-M 61 1 32001U 07033A 07254.54110510 .00013107
00000-0 83687-4 0 353
2 32001 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 6296


All these components are docked, why are these lines all differend??
A.F.A.I.K. all of this are at the same place??


The epochs (time tags) of each element set are different. All of the
above represent "snapshots" of the same orbit, taken at different times.
Small perturbations in the orbit are enough to account for the
differences. If you propagate all the above elements to the same epoch,
using the exact same algorithm USSPACECOM uses, you should get the same
result.
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Old September 14th 07, 11:08 AM posted to sci.space.station
André, PE1PQX
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Jorge R. Frank drukte met precisie uit :
André wrote:
John Szalay was zeer hard aan het denken :

ISS (ZARYA) 1 25544U 98067A 07255.82315875 .00012322
00000-0 78817-4 0 9690
2 25544 51.6366 11.6751 0008809 2.3368 137.4270 15.76764337504605
SOYUZ-TMA 10 1 31100U 07008A 07254.54110510 .00013107
00000-0 83687-4 0 1210
2 31100 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 24734
PROGRESS-M 60 1 31393U 07017A 07255.49808975 .00012467
00000-0 79723-4 0 1672
2 31393 51.6371 13.3504 0008755 1.5580 91.7615 15.76756778 19484
PROGRESS-M 61 1 32001U 07033A 07254.54110510 .00013107
00000-0 83687-4 0 353
2 32001 51.6366 18.2854 0008665 358.6987 58.8422 15.76734265 6296


All these components are docked, why are these lines all differend??
A.F.A.I.K. all of this are at the same place??


The epochs (time tags) of each element set are different. All of the above
represent "snapshots" of the same orbit, taken at different times. Small
perturbations in the orbit are enough to account for the differences. If you
propagate all the above elements to the same epoch, using the exact same
algorithm USSPACECOM uses, you should get the same result.


Ah, okay.
If I read it correctly; the elements were generated at different times
during the same orbit?
Also the inclination of the Progress-M 60 is slightly different, the
element probably generated just before or after docking I guess...

Thanks for the 'lesson'.

André


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Old September 14th 07, 04:12 PM posted to sci.space.station
John Szalay
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dienet wrote in
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Dnia 13-09-2007 o 18:07:55 John Szalay
napisa³(a):

Here are to-day's TLE's (two-line elements) for the ISS.
perhaps you can do something with them.


Well if they're update more then once in mintute then send me link to
them (http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt - ?).
I hope I can grab from them lat an lon.


What you see is what you get, and after 9/11 we are extremely lucky to
get these. Homeland security wanted and tried to shut down access to ALL
sat TLE's

There is a gentleman in Canada that generates TLEs as well, but I doubt
that you would get him to generate continous sets.

Really ,,
I am not sure what you are asking for, once you get a set of current
TLE's you can plug them into a existing program or write your own
program to output what you desire, I know one guy that has written a
good Windows program, but myself I prefer the DOS program, since it runs
much faster in DOS on my laptop that we take to the field to view
sat passes. I use Windoze, but .....not a fan..
 




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