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Antigravity - The fraud of the 20th century.
Gravity in terms of general relativity is thought of as a curvature in
space time which leads to accelerations of objects along a geodesic. Experimentally gravity and inertia are equivalent to an extremely high accuracy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6...B6s_experiment Eotvos is now over 100 years old and since his time experiments have been performed. Now an accuracy of 10^-11 has been achieved. http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm This reference outlines various forces in nature and explains how inertia and gravity might not be the same. As you can see the accuracy of recent experiments is well within the expected variations, if real. If antigravity were to be real in any sense it would mean warping space time. None of the methods proposed seem to do this. To warp a gravitational field you need negative mass. Negative mass is needed to do such things as stabilization of a wormhole. Has negative mass been discovered? If it were then the secret world of such places as area 51 would have discovered something that has eluded mainstream Physics. Mainstream Physics talks about 74% of the Universe being dark energy. Nobody knows what this dark energy is, and no experiment performed so far has given any real indication. http://www.americanantigravity.com/gravitywaves.shtml I have a real difficulty with this. If 11kw of gravitational wave energy really were being generated it would show up on LIGO. We then try to detect gravitational waves. If there is a connection the mirrors must move. You should have a frequency such that the mirrors are approximately a radian apart. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...+or+arms&meta= http://www.ligo.caltech.edu/ I think you should look at these websites carefully. The equipment is amazingly sensitive. If your electromagnetic assembly is indeed creating gravitational waves at any level, they will be found. In fact you could say, in many ways that this would be a definitive experiment. If the Japanese mirrors do NOT move then all antigravity concepts are in deep trouble since there can be no electromagnetic link. Interestingly LIGO itself has written a short piece on what they thing they are going to detect. http://www.ligo.caltech.edu/docs/P/P980001-00.pdf It is a very interesting website. Expected sources of gravitational waves that LIGO may see [1] [2] include the in- spiral and coalescence of compact binary star systems made up of neutron stars and/or black holes, supernovae that develop non-axisymmmetric instabilities in the process of collapse and rotating neutron stars that are non-axisymmetric. LIGO will also search for stochastic gravitational waves that are remnants of the big bang. Note nothing about Area 51 despite the fact that it is only just over 2000km from Hanford. The other sources are much further away, the Big Bang being 13.7 billion light years away. If there was one shred of truth about antigravity. The other interesting fact lies in the other observatories will give an indication of the direction of any disturbance, so that if we get a supernova explosion the rough direction can be deduced. LIGO has in fact been operating for some time. So fat no definitive detection of gravitational waves, still early days though, there has certainly been nothing from Area 51. Whatever else is going on there there can be no antigravity. There appears to be a divergence between the military and mainstream Science. Janes is a normally reliable source. It generally gets its information from "off the record" briefings by senior military officers. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegas..._for_Real.html Wherever did the information come from? Not from Hanford to be sure! ANTIGRAVITY AS FRAUD What do the advocates of antigravity think about LIGO. Are they queuing up to demonstrate that they can in fact move LIGO's mirrors. Not a bit of it! This to me puts it on the same level as creationalism. It is nothing other than a gigantic fraud which has got no scientific basis at all. Hollywood has made a film about one spectacular fraudster who pretended to be an airline pilot and got a large number of free plane rides. http://www.amazon.com/Catch-Me-If-You-Can/dp/0767905385 http://www.dreamworks.com/catchthem/jump2.html I sometimes wonder whether a film could not be made about antigravity. http://proutnewsnetwork.org/NWO/files/vril.html This would be tremendous! The problem is that after WW2 the allies captured all the key Nazis. Recently declassified CIA documents show that people who had expertise were taken on regardless of their record. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060601555.html deals with intelligence agents. http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp....MVIuG&b=395159 Deals with the question more generally. The CIA obviously swallowed accounts of Vril aircraft and antigravity. http://www.eyepod.org/images/L_Vril1-01_1_.gif Indeed there are pictures of such aircraft. The claim of 2900km/h 5½hr in 1944 seems grossly exaggerated to say the least. Yet they appear to have been swallowed whole. In fact the Germans would have won the war had they possessed aircraft with a fraction of that performance. Nobody seems to have twigged that. They were hoping to test it in 1944 if not earlier. ROSWELL - THE TRUTH What about Little Green Men? As Simon Wiesenthal says, when war criminals were being prosecuted at Nuremberg and Tokyo it would not do to admit that war criminals were in your service. Thus the story had to be that an alien UFO had crashed. The basic absurdity of this story has become apparent with the advance of our own technology. What is the truth. Well the original source of all of what I term science fiction purporting to be science fact and conspiracy theory stems from the Nazi Order of the Black Sun http://www.greatdreams.com/solar/black-sun.htm This was very influential in Nazi circles. They had weird beliefs about Science and antigravity in particular. You could propel yourself with a resonance with Aldebaron. They produced aircraft which purported to fly at incredible speeds. The Vril was supposed to travel for 12,000km at 2900km/h. The truth was of course that flying saucers were built, they worked completely aerodynamically using v^2/r to generate a vacuum. They flew, but not very well. They were chronically unstable and were never practical VTOL designs. In fact the helicopter flew a lot better (and faster!). However the CIA swallowed the Black Sun whole, proceeded to concoct a story of aliens and found they had been sold a pup. Having been sold a pup Area 51 had to concoct other stories. Ah well we are working with alien technology, this is incredibly advanced - we are only just managing to sort it out. The traditional Roswell account is very much is tune with 1950s SF. Now we are talking about AI and miniaturization. The presence of ET, at any rate in the Roswell form, is a total impossibility. If Area 51 has got alien technology it has made remarkably little use of it. Alien technology would in fact have involved advanced computing and AI. The simple fact of the matter is that the secret world never saw fit to consult any reputable scientists. No reputable scientist ever saw the Nazi flying saucers. That is why the bought a pup. I am cross posting to rec.arts.mystery it is without question the fraud of the century, or rather last century. Hitler swallowed everything whole, the aircraft were (probably, the V1s and V2s were) constructed with slave labour. The secret world did not consult reputable scientists, if they had the Black Sun would have gone straight to Nuremberg. In subsequent years antigravity has been a subject that will not go away. No aircraft has flown with antigravity, yet the topic refuses to die. I would have expected an aircraft travelling at 2900 km/h and a range of 12,000km by 1950 at the latest, and that the absence of such an aircraft would lead to questions being asked, but apparently not. Money has kept on being spent between the end of WW2 and the present day. In fact antigravity has come to be a blanket term under which all novel aviation concepts are bracketed. Obviously no LIGO as they are known from the start not to be antigravity. http://www.americanantigravity.com/d...er-Article.pdf This is from the American ANTIGRAVITY website. There is however no mention in this article of anything other than normal aerodynamic forces. There seems to be a widespread perception that Area 51 knows things that mainstream science does not. I think it is in its interest to give that impression. It all serves to boost funds. That is of course part of the gigantic fraud and I believe that it is a fraud that is extremely damaging to the reputation of mainstream science. I sometimes wonder whether all these people with doubts about the theory of Relativity are influenced by Area 51 and its disinformation. It has even crossed my mind that they are professional disinformers themselves. Are we alone in the Universe? Is there, or has there been at any time an extraterrestrial presence? I believe that these are important questions. I feel that such episodes as Roswell hinder us in our search for rational answers. - Ian Parker LIGO cannot detect the Black Sun. It can however detect two orbiting each other. |
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Antigravity - The fraud of the 20th century.
I'd much rather put our hard earned loot into the various frauds of
antigravity than into the fully perpetrated frauds of our cold-war(s), and/or into the fraud and subsequent fiasco of those Muslim WMD. - Brad Guth |
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Antigravity - The fraud of the 20th century.
On 21 Jul, 16:05, BradGuth wrote:
I'd much rather put our hard earned loot into the various frauds of antigravity than into the fully perpetrated frauds of our cold-war(s), and/or into the fraud and subsequent fiasco of those Muslim WMD. - Brad Guth The two things are not so unrelated. Iraq is the result of exacly the same attitude that swallowed the Black Sun. I am a physicist and I have at least a semi authorative view about the correct position on antigravity. Certainly neither Bush nor the Pentagon consulted any real experts on the Middle East. My equivalant of a mainstream scientist speaks Arabic, has lived for some time in the Middle East and is aquainted with the authentic sources of information. - Ian Parker |
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Antigravity - The fraud of the 20th century.
On Jul 21, 9:09 am, Ian Parker wrote:
On 21 Jul, 16:05, BradGuth wrote: I'd much rather put our hard earned loot into the various frauds of antigravity than into the fully perpetrated frauds of our cold-war(s), and/or into the fraud and subsequent fiasco of those Muslim WMD. - Brad Guth The two things are not so unrelated. Iraq is the result of exacly the same attitude that swallowed the Black Sun. I am a physicist and I have at least a semi authorative view about the correct position on antigravity. Certainly neither Bush nor the Pentagon consulted any real experts on the Middle East. My equivalant of a mainstream scientist speaks Arabic, has lived for some time in the Middle East and is aquainted with the authentic sources of information. - Ian Parker In other honest words, we're getting summarily screwed over by our own kind, and then some. No wonder our physics is so highly conditional, and of whatever evidence via the best available science made taboo or simply banished for lack of having a Yiddish stamp of approval. - Brad Guth |
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Antigravity - The fraud of the 20th century.
On Jul 21, 10:38 am, Ian Parker wrote:
Gravity in terms of general relativity is thought of as a curvature in space time which leads to accelerations of objects along a geodesic. Experimentally gravity and inertia are equivalent to an extremely high accuracy.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6...B6s_experiment Eotvos is now over 100 years old and since his time experiments have been performed. Now an accuracy of 10^-11 has been achieved. http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm This reference outlines various forces in nature and explains how inertia and gravity might not be the same. As you can see the accuracy of recent experiments is well within the expected variations, if real. If antigravity were to be real in any sense it would mean warping space time. None of the methods proposed seem to do this. To warp a gravitational field you need negative mass. Negative mass is needed to do such things as stabilization of a wormhole. Has negative mass been discovered? If it were then the secret world of such places as area 51 would have discovered something that has eluded mainstream Physics. Mainstream Physics talks about 74% of the Universe being dark energy. Nobody knows what this dark energy is, and no experiment performed so far has given any real indication. http://www.americanantigravity.com/gravitywaves.shtml I have a real difficulty with this. If 11kw of gravitational wave energy really were being generated it would show up on LIGO. We then try to detect gravitational waves. If there is a connection the mirrors must move. You should have a frequency such that the mirrors are approximately a radian apart.http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...o.caltech.edu/ I think you should look at these websites carefully. The equipment is amazingly sensitive. If your electromagnetic assembly is indeed creating gravitational waves at any level, they will be found. In fact you could say, in many ways that this would be a definitive experiment. If the Japanese mirrors do NOT move then all antigravity concepts are in deep trouble since there can be no electromagnetic link. Interestingly LIGO itself has written a short piece on what they thing they are going to detect.http://www.ligo.caltech.edu/docs/P/P980001-00.pdf It is a very interesting website. Expected sources of gravitational waves that LIGO may see [1] [2] include the in- spiral and coalescence of compact binary star systems made up of neutron stars and/or black holes, supernovae that develop non-axisymmmetric instabilities in the process of collapse and rotating neutron stars that are non-axisymmetric. LIGO will also search for stochastic gravitational waves that are remnants of the big bang. Note nothing about Area 51 despite the fact that it is only just over 2000km from Hanford. The other sources are much further away, the Big Bang being 13.7 billion light years away. If there was one shred of truth about antigravity. The other interesting fact lies in the other observatories will give an indication of the direction of any disturbance, so that if we get a supernova explosion the rough direction can be deduced. LIGO has in fact been operating for some time. So fat no definitive detection of gravitational waves, still early days though, there has certainly been nothing from Area 51. Whatever else is going on there there can be no antigravity. There appears to be a divergence between the military and mainstream Science. Janes is a normally reliable source. It generally gets its information from "off the record" briefings by senior military officers.http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegas..._Gravity_for_R... Wherever did the information come from? Not from Hanford to be sure! ANTIGRAVITY AS FRAUD What do the advocates of antigravity think about LIGO. Are they queuing up to demonstrate that they can in fact move LIGO's mirrors. Not a bit of it! This to me puts it on the same level as creationalism. It is nothing other than a gigantic fraud which has got no scientific basis at all. Hollywood has made a film about one spectacular fraudster who pretended to be an airline pilot and got a large number of free plane rides.http://www.amazon.com/Catch-Me-If-Yo...hem/jump2.html I sometimes wonder whether a film could not be made about antigravity.http://proutnewsnetwork.org/NWO/files/vril.html This would be tremendous! The problem is that after WW2 the allies captured all the key Nazis. Recently declassified CIA documents show that people who had expertise were taken on regardless of their record.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...06/06/06/AR200... deals with intelligence agents.http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp....&b=395159Deals with the question more generally. The CIA obviously swallowed accounts of Vril aircraft and antigravity.http://www.eyepod.org/images/L_Vril1-01_1_.gif Indeed there are pictures of such aircraft. The claim of 2900km/h 5½hr in 1944 seems grossly exaggerated to say the least. Yet they appear to have been swallowed whole. In fact the Germans would have won the war had they possessed aircraft with a fraction of that performance. Nobody seems to have twigged that. They were hoping to test it in 1944 if not earlier. ROSWELL - THE TRUTH What about Little Green Men? As Simon Wiesenthal says, when war criminals were being prosecuted at Nuremberg and Tokyo it would not do to admit that war criminals were in your service. Thus the story had to be that an alien UFO had crashed. The basic absurdity of this story has become apparent with the advance of our own technology. What is the truth. Well the original source of all of what I term science fiction purporting to be science fact and conspiracy theory stems from the Nazi Order of the Black Sunhttp://www.greatdreams.com/solar/black-sun.htm This was very influential in Nazi circles. They had weird beliefs about Science and antigravity in particular. You could propel yourself with a resonance with Aldebaron. They produced aircraft which purported to fly at incredible speeds. The Vril was supposed to travel for 12,000km at 2900km/h. The truth was of course that flying saucers were built, they worked completely aerodynamically using v^2/r to generate a vacuum. They flew, but not very well. They were chronically unstable and were never practical VTOL designs. In fact the helicopter flew a lot better (and faster!). However the CIA swallowed the Black Sun whole, proceeded to concoct a story of aliens and found they had been sold a pup. Having been sold a pup Area 51 had to concoct other stories. Ah well we are working with alien technology, this is incredibly advanced - we are only just managing to sort it out. The traditional Roswell account is very much is tune with 1950s SF. Now we are talking about AI and miniaturization. The presence of ET, at any rate in the Roswell form, is a total impossibility. If Area 51 has got alien technology it has made remarkably little use of it. Alien technology would in fact have involved advanced computing and AI. The simple fact of the matter is that the secret world never saw fit to consult any reputable scientists. No reputable scientist ever saw the Nazi flying saucers. That is why the bought a pup. I am cross posting to rec.arts.mystery it is without question the fraud of the century, or rather last century. Hitler swallowed everything whole, the aircraft were (probably, the V1s and V2s were) constructed with slave labour. The secret world did not consult reputable scientists, if they had the Black Sun would have gone straight to Nuremberg. In subsequent years antigravity has been a subject that will not go away. No aircraft has flown with antigravity, yet the topic refuses to die. I would have expected an aircraft travelling at 2900 km/h and a range of 12,000km by 1950 at the latest, and that the absence of such an aircraft would lead to questions being asked, but apparently not. Money has kept on being spent between the end of WW2 and the present day. In fact antigravity has come to be a blanket term under which all novel aviation concepts are bracketed. Obviously no LIGO as they are known from the start not to be antigravity.http://www.americanantigravity..com/...er-Article.pdf This is from the American ANTIGRAVITY website. There is however no mention in this article of anything other than normal aerodynamic forces. There seems to be a widespread perception that Area 51 knows things that mainstream science does not. I think it is in its interest to give that impression. It all serves to boost funds. That is of course part of the gigantic fraud and I believe that it is a fraud that is extremely damaging to the reputation of mainstream science. I sometimes wonder whether all these people with doubts about the theory of Relativity are influenced by Area 51 and its disinformation. It has even crossed my mind that they are professional disinformers themselves. Are we alone in the Universe? Is there, or has there been at any time an extraterrestrial presence? I believe that these are important questions. I feel that such episodes as Roswell hinder us in our search for rational answers. - Ian Parker LIGO cannot detect the Black Sun. It can however detect two orbiting each other. Now if we could just find a way to make time run backwards, then things would fall up. |
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Ian Parker wrote:
Gravity in terms of general relativity is thought of as a curvature in space time which leads to accelerations of objects along a geodesic. Not necessarily. Metric gravitation spacetime curvature predictions are wholly contained within non-metric gravitation spacetime torsion predictions - affine (Eisntein-Cartan), teleparallel (Weitzenböck spacetime), and noncommutative (Connes) gravitations. The only interesting part is where the two sets disjointly *disagree*: angular momentum - macroscopic physical spin; particle spin and orbital angular momentum (magnets); relativistic spin-orbit coupling (binary pulsr PSR J0737-3039A/B); and opposite parity mass distributions. Only the last is a macroscopically measurable effect even in principle. http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.pdf minutia http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 2-day experiment to extreme sensitivity. Experimentally gravity and inertia are equivalent to an extremely high accuracy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6...B6s_experiment Do better, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#b1 http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#b5 Parity is the disjoint non-overlap between metric and non-metric gravititation Eotvos is now over 100 years old and since his time experiments have been performed. Now an accuracy of 10^-11 has been achieved. Adelberger at U/Wash currently achieves 10^(-13) difference/average, Newman at UC/Irvine might do 10^(-15) below 4 kelvin. Neither has performed a parity Eotvos experiment opposing single crystal solid spheres of space group P3(1)21 vs. P3(2)21 cultured alpha-quartz. Does a right shoe vacuum free fall identically to a left shoe? Nobody has ever looked. http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm This reference outlines various forces in nature and explains how inertia and gravity might not be the same. That URL is an overly large hodgepodge plus huge pile of citations for the uninitiated. The lean clients are http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.pdf minutia http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 2-day experiment to extreme sensitivity. A *measurable* spacetime parity violation is empirically confined to one specific case - opposite parity mass distributions. Orthodox theory supporting it appeared by the 1920s. The only meaningful further discussion is to look. Both a null and a non-mull outcome are fully supported by orthodox classical theory consistent with all prior observation in all venues at all scales. No theory however elegant, "necessary," or large can survive empirical falsification of its predictions. String theory with 10^1000 allowed vacua (the landscape) makes no predictions at all. It demands BRST invariance (the effects of a massive body and an accelerating geometry are indistinguishable) and so is also vulnerable to parity Eotvos and parity calorimetry falsification experiments. As you can see the accuracy of recent experiments is well within the expected variations, if real. So? 10^(-13) difference/average Eotvos experiment net signal, state of the art, gives an 8% calorimetry signal in 0.1% precision equipment. Official Truth can be busted bya fcotr of 80. http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#b4 literature citation numbers http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#c1 thermodynamics and kinematics http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#b2 bottom lines All of that inevitably arises from classical physics with heavy literature citation and no possibility of dissent. None of that is arguable. The only unknown is whether the vacuum is empirically even-parity or odd-parity in the mass sector. Vacuum isotropy vs. anisotropic chiral background cannot be resolved by debate. That must be examined. The reproducible answer is the answer. It matters not who does not like the results. If antigravity were to be real in any sense it would mean warping space time. Nonsense. Spacetime curvature in isotropic space gives *parallel* local vacuum free fall minimum action geodesics. Spacetime torsion in a chiral vacuum backgriund gives *divergent* local vacuum free fall minimum action teleparallels for chemically identical, oppposite parity mass distributions. Nothing is violated either way. Ordinary random matter does not care. Given empirical chiral anisotropic space, unless somebody is unexpectedly clever with subsequent non-metric gravitation theory, the parity divergence will be small - on the order of 10^(-12) relative. Present-day vacuum chiral divergence would be just large enough to originate biological homochirality (L-chiral protein amino acids and D-chiral natural sugars) the left-handed Weak interaction; and source the inflation era post-Big Bang as a chiral pseudoscalar field background choosing matter over antimatter. There it is folks - all the nasty unexplainable chirality-selective stuff neatly tied up in a gift package. There cannot be a parity Nordtvedt effect. The mass fraction of Earth's chiral mass distributions is negligible compared to planetary mass (and biology is mostly achiral water). Even then, meat cancels wood. None of the methods proposed seem to do this. To warp a gravitational field you need negative mass. [snip straw men] If you assume the Equivalence Principle is true, then violations of the EP are impossible. I propose to observe whether the EP has a parity violation based upon two orthogonal classes of theoretically sound experiments. Observation cannot be argued against. What is reproducibly empirically observed is true. http://www.americanantigravity.com/gravitywaves.shtml [snip] That's crap. Contradiction of prior observation is crap. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...+or+arms&meta= http://www.ligo.caltech.edu/ I think you should look at these websites carefully. I've corresponded with Kip Thorne. So? Spacetime curvature and spacetime torsion are measurably indistinguishable except in the opposite parity mass distribution case. If you have a few meter-wide cultured single crystal alpha-quartz mirrors in both space groups for LIGO, don't be shy about telling us. Alas, since the far ends of LIGO in Washington state and Louisiana do not satisfy locality, it wouldn't be a definitive experiment. The equipment is amazingly sensitive. If your electromagnetic assembly is indeed creating gravitational waves at any level, [snip] You really don't know what you are talking about, do you? Gravitational waves are quadrupolar excitations requiring immense (as in "astronomical") mass displacements. Gravitation merely requires a single atom or less (or nothing at all - the Weyl tensor). Gravity waves are wet sloshes exending from surface to bottom. Are we alone in the Universe? [snip] We are isolated in the universe. If you do not like that, change it yourself. - Ian Parker -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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On Jul 21, 8:07 pm, Uncle Al wrote:
--CUT PART AWAY--- If you assume the Equivalence Principle is true, then violations of the EP are impossible. I propose to observe whether the EP has a parity violation based upon two orthogonal classes of theoretically sound experiments. Observation cannot be argued against. What is reproducibly empirically observed is true. I think this "bull**** cranker" Alan Schwartz (=Uncle Al) does not understand properly the LOCAL principle of Equivalence of GR ? Hannu --CUT PART AWAY--- Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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"mathematician" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 21, 8:07 pm, Uncle Al wrote: --CUT PART AWAY--- If you assume the Equivalence Principle is true, then violations of the EP are impossible. I propose to observe whether the EP has a parity violation based upon two orthogonal classes of theoretically sound experiments. Observation cannot be argued against. What is reproducibly empirically observed is true. I think this "bull**** cranker" Alan Schwartz (=Uncle Al) does not understand properly the LOCAL principle of Equivalence of GR ? Uncle Al has demonstrated a VERY good understanding of GR. Bill Hannu --CUT PART AWAY--- Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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On Jul 21, 11:00 am, mathematician wrote:
On Jul 21, 8:07 pm, Uncle Al wrote: --CUT PART AWAY--- If you assume the Equivalence Principle is true, then violations of the EP are impossible. I propose to observe whether the EP has a parity violation based upon two orthogonal classes of theoretically sound experiments. Observation cannot be argued against. What is reproducibly empirically observed is true. I think this "bull**** cranker" Alan Schwartz (=Uncle Al) does not understand properly the LOCAL principle of Equivalence of GR ? Really? Why is that? I learned a fair bit about the EP from him, and through the references he has posted. His thoughts on the matter were, at the very least, backed up by what I saw while learning GR. [...] |
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On Jul 21, 9:07 am, Uncle Al wrote:
[...] Do you have the crystals grown yet? |
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