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Old April 22nd 15, 08:46 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:31:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote this crap:

On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:58:33 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:43:37 -0400, Lord Vath
wrote:

Crops do worse with higher CO2 levels? Quickly! To the Vathcave!


Grain crops, which are the staple food sources of human, appear to
have decreased yields when CO2 levels are higher.


And yet there is less starvation in the world (despite 7 billion
population) than EVER before. Next!


That has nothing to do with the amount of CO2 in the air. It has to
do with improved farm equipment and genetically advanced crops.


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Old April 22nd 15, 10:36 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Lord Vath wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 15:58:32 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote this crap:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:43:37 -0400, Lord Vath
wrote:

Crops do worse with higher CO2 levels? Quickly! To the Vathcave!


Grain crops, which are the staple food sources of human, appear to
have decreased yields when CO2 levels are higher.


The only grain I care about is barley and hops.


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You can halve your cares then since hops is not a grain.
But barley likes colder conditions and grains can generally not move
poleward with increasing temperatures because of limitations of day length.
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Old April 22nd 15, 11:00 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 12:07:50 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:31:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA
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And yet there is less starvation in the world (despite 7 billion population) than EVER before. Next!


Non sequitur.


You need to get that "non-sequitur" out of your vocabulary; it makes you sound like a smart-*** ninth grader.
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Old April 22nd 15, 11:03 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 3:46:51 AM UTC-4, Lord Vath wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:31:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote this crap:

On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:58:33 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:43:37 -0400, Lord Vath
wrote:

Crops do worse with higher CO2 levels? Quickly! To the Vathcave!

Grain crops, which are the staple food sources of human, appear to
have decreased yields when CO2 levels are higher.


And yet there is less starvation in the world (despite 7 billion
population) than EVER before. Next!


That has nothing to do with the amount of CO2 in the air. It has to
do with improved farm equipment and genetically advanced crops.


Farm equipment emits large amounts of CO2, and GMOs would not have come about absent a fossil fuel economy.

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On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 11:31:49 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:58:33 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:43:37 -0400, Lord Vath
wrote:

Crops do worse with higher CO2 levels? Quickly! To the Vathcave!


Grain crops, which are the staple food sources of human, appear to
have decreased yields when CO2 levels are higher.


And yet there is less starvation in the world (despite 7 billion population) than EVER before. Next!


Owl Bore had four kids, a rate consistent with the doubling of the world population each generation, which is roughly what has been seen over the last several decades.
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Old April 22nd 15, 11:41 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 5:58:33 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:43:37 -0400, Lord Vath
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Crops do worse with higher CO2 levels? Quickly! To the Vathcave!


Grain crops, which are the staple food sources of human, appear to
have decreased yields when CO2 levels are higher.


If true, then you need to either live within walking distance of your astronomy club or to stop attending its meetings.
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-4, Jim Newman wrote:

Your last point is fair enough, but remember that higher CO2 levels will
result in further warming and polar ice melt leading to sea level rises;
you seem to be comfortable with the loss of much of the coastal cities
of the world, I'm not sure it's what most people want - 'life in
general' may have done OK, but 'people' will be seriously inconvenienced
if we return to the ultra high CO2 levels we may have experienced in the
past.


SUV-driving, jet-setting warmingistas living at sea level would certainly feel "inconvenienced" if they had to give up their SUVs or else move inland.

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Old April 22nd 15, 12:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 12:41:25 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:

Spanish and Portuguese conquests in South America and the accompanying
epidemics killed 70 to 95% of the indigenous population. They had a very
high civilisation with cities in what is now rain forest with intensive
agriculture. These cities are only now being rediscovered by aerial
surveys. A lot of what is now rainforest is regrowth of the agricultural
areas after the civilisations collapsed due mainly to smallpox. This caused
a rapid fall in CO2 which led to the little ice age.
Increasing use of coal and further deforestation in Europe then restarted
the global warming. You cold make a case for the medieval warm period being
partly cause by deforestation, particularly in Europe.


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Old April 22nd 15, 01:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 12:41:25 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:

Spanish and Portuguese conquests in South America and the accompanying
epidemics killed 70 to 95% of the indigenous population. They had a very
high civilisation with cities in what is now rain forest with intensive
agriculture. These cities are only now being rediscovered by aerial
surveys. A lot of what is now rainforest is regrowth of the agricultural
areas after the civilisations collapsed due mainly to smallpox. This caused
a rapid fall in CO2 which led to the little ice age.
Increasing use of coal and further deforestation in Europe then restarted
the global warming. You cold make a case for the medieval warm period being
partly cause by deforestation, particularly in Europe.


Expecting a Hugo Award?


No you have to be an right wing nutter to do that this year.

Look up the facts.All there on the net.
The CO2 figures show a big fall just after the time of the conquest.

The South American, particularly Amazonian cities are being found with the
archaeological evidence of extensive cultivation.

If you doubt the regrowth of the forest just look at New England after the
farmers packed up and moved west following the little ice age.
 




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