What do conservative policy intellectuals think about climate change?

On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:01:40 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
Lord Vath wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:04:50 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote this crap:



You do get a break in fuel tax. If you're in a car pool of four you will
only pay a quarter of the tax

Not in Detroit. When you pull up to the fuel pump, you're paying the
full price.


But if there are four of you in the car you're only paying a quarter of the
price each and therefore a quarter of the tax.

Are you nuts? do you take up a collection among the passengers to pay
for it?


This signature is now the ultimate
power in the universe

It's a car pool. The whole point of it is to share your journeys. So you
only use a quarter as much fuel as you would otherwise unless one of the
pool is a freeloader.

Cartoon #2 in this link is relevant to the discussion:

http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/subje...l+Cartoons.php

Riding four to a car is less convenient, often more stressful, less safe than driving alone, depending on the circumstances. AEBE, the journey is usually of "lower value."

Maybe peterson "car pools" to his astronomy club meetings? Can a rich warmingista travel in the car pool lane if he and his chauffeur are the only persons in the limo? Can a parent drive in the carpool lane with just his/her young child in the car?

On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 1:22:40 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 8:54:20 AM UTC-4, Lord Vath wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 03:27:19 -0700 (PDT), wsnell01 wrote
this crap:

It's a false argument to suggest that unless people live without cars,
etc; they are hypocrites if they argue for reductions of CO2 emissions.

Incorrect.

Since most people don't own/use cars to any great extent, if at all,
and since the world average CO2 is still too high (if you believe in that
sort of thing) then the typical car owner is indeed a hypocrite if he
argues for a reduction of CO2 emissions.

Not me. I haven't driven my car in months. I have my showfer drive
me most places.

And that hints at exactly the sort of loophole that a warmingista such as
peterson would use. Commercial vehicles (limos) might be exempt. Result:
the rich and those with connections are not affected. Rural dwellers
such as peterson might be given a break on fuel used for traveling to
town, but a typical city dweller wishing to drive anywhere would pay the tax.

As Orwell said, "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

No loopholes in Britain except biodiesel and farm vehicles vehicles which
have tax free "Red diesel". If red diesel" is found in a road vehicle the
user will be fined and/or the vehicle confiscated.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-road-vehicles

There are all sorts of loopholes if you know where to look. Carpool lanes are one possibility, along with various income tax deductions, tax credits, subsidies, etc., and of course the simple fact that Owl Bore and his ilk might not be particularly bothered by a $100 per gallon tax on fossil fuel.

I presume that $100 per gallon gas would cramp your "style," perhaps even making your carbon-intensive trips to a different hemisphere unaffordable.

On Friday, 24 April 2015 14:09:47 UTC+2, wrote:

snip same old, same old, repetitive crap

Define "Kon.. konsser- konserff-itive duh.. poll-issey" in the context of "inter... heck... inter... aw shucks.. inter... inter-lek-tyool?" spit

On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 11:41:52 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote:

Define "Kon.. konsser- konserff-itive duh.. poll-issey" in the context of
"inter... heck... inter... aw shucks.. inter... inter-lek-tyool?" spit

Does your system not have a spell checker, chris b?

wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:01:40 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
Lord Vath wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:04:50 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote this crap:



You do get a break in fuel tax. If you're in a car pool of four you will
only pay a quarter of the tax

Not in Detroit. When you pull up to the fuel pump, you're paying the
full price.


But if there are four of you in the car you're only paying a quarter of the
price each and therefore a quarter of the tax.

Are you nuts? do you take up a collection among the passengers to pay
for it?


This signature is now the ultimate
power in the universe

It's a car pool. The whole point of it is to share your journeys. So you
only use a quarter as much fuel as you would otherwise unless one of the
pool is a freeloader.

Cartoon #2 in this link is relevant to the discussion:

http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/subje...l+Cartoons.php

Riding four to a car is less convenient, often more stressful, less safe
than driving alone, depending on the circumstances. AEBE, the journey is
usually of "lower value."

Maybe peterson "car pools" to his astronomy club meetings? Can a rich
warmingista travel in the car pool lane if he and his chauffeur are the
only persons in the limo? Can a parent drive in the carpool lane with
just his/her young child in the car?

Then I assume you only drive a one seat car, or maybe a Smart Car.