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Old April 6th 15, 05:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default What do conservative policy intellectuals think about climate change?

Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

The interesting thing is that the insurance industry cannot afford to deny climate change.
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Old April 6th 15, 05:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/


From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.

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Old April 6th 15, 05:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:

The interesting thing is that the insurance industry cannot afford to deny
climate change.


The insurance industry can simply stop writing policies, at least in a free market. However, I am sure that you fascists can "fix" that.

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Old April 6th 15, 08:25 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:32:33 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/


From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.


Hey, you're on a roll. Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!
The deep end is just moments away.
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Old April 7th 15, 12:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:32:33 AM UTC-5, wsne... wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/


From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.


Hey, you're on a roll. Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!
The deep end is just moments away.


Rather than cast insults, show us how you are not in the category of "people who just don't want to do anything about it [climate change.]"

(Hint, your two Chevy Volts don't count.)


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Old April 7th 15, 06:05 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 4/6/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.


Can Climate Scientists Make A Difference by Not Flying?
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/c...s-flying-18864



Globally, air travel accounts for 2.5 percent of greenhouse gas
emissions. If air travel were a country, it would be roughly on par
with Germany in emissions. And if air travel by climate scientists
were a city, it would be a one-stoplight outpost.

In other words, climate scientists curtailing their air travel would
make a microscopic dent in reducing emissions, but a new paper argues
they should do it anyway, because their influence goes far beyond
numbers.


“It’s a credibility issue,” Corinne Le Quéré, a researcher at the
Tyndall Centre, said in an interview via Skype. “We’re trying to
support a change in culture.”

Le Quéré, who authored a recent paper on decarbonizing climate
research, starting with flying, said most climate scientists are
acutely aware of their carbon footprint but that flying has become
part of their routine, particularly for criss-crossing the globe in
connecting with colleagues at far-flung institutions.


Of course, it’s not only climate scientists who are flying more and
more each year. From 2005 to 2013, annual air travel grew from 2
billion from 3 billion passengers.

Had Le Quéré opted for an in-person interview about her work, the
round-trip flight from London to New York would have emitted 3.4 tons
of carbon dioxide (CO2), two and a half times the annual emissions of
the average person living in India.

While a few thousand scientists ditching their frequent flyer cards
is a drop in the carbon emissions bucket, Le Quéré argues that those
scientists carry a greater burden than the general public to consider
their own emissions. That’s because they’re acutely aware of the
risks climate change poses as well as the solutions needed.


“Their [climate scientists] actions may have limited discernible
influence in terms of 'bending the curve' on emissions, but their
efforts to 'walk the talk' have tremendous symbolic value,” he said.
“Moreover, because this has become such a politically charged and
high-stakes issue, their actions are scrutinized much more than those
who aren't studying the problem.”

I remind all readers that global warming is happening and that we
are all in this together. Make a difference by informing your friends,
neighbors and the public at large. Advocate for sustainable
communities in areas such as energy, water and food. Sustainable
communities.






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Old April 7th 15, 06:24 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 1:05:33 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:

Can Climate Scientists Make A Difference by Not Flying?
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/c...s-flying-18864


edit

I remind all readers that global warming is happening and that we
are all in this together.


Thus far the warmingistas have provided practically NO evidence of that notion, based on their personal behaviors.


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Old April 7th 15, 06:40 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:05:33 PM UTC+1, Sam Wormley wrote:

I remind all readers that global warming is happening and that we
are all in this together. Make a difference by informing your friends,
neighbors and the public at large.


The planet warms every time a location turns into solar radiation within each 24 hours and cools as the stars of the great celestial arena come into view as the planet turns back into the shadow of the Earth.

http://prairieecosystems.pbworks.com...0variation.jpg

In one of the bewildering mode of thinking the people of the planet have ever seen, not because of its complexity but that the error can be corrected so easily, you will insist the Earth turns 366 1/4 times within an orbital circumference which takes roughly 365 days 6 hours to complete.

"During one orbit around the Sun, Earth rotates about its own axis 366.26 times " Main Earth article Wikipedia

I went for a walk today down by the ancient Knowth monument where people marked the Equinox in a most spectacular light show over 5200 years ago. How magnificent those people were in contrast to the utter chaos of you and the everyone else here who can't manage to assign the proper proportion of rotations to an orbital circumference. In others words, not a single one of you could build that astronomical clock -

http://www.knowth.com/aerial/aerial-knowth.jpg


Tell your friend and family indeed !, what do you tell them what is behind the experience of a day ?. If you believe there are 366 1/4 rotations within an orbital circuit it is not going to be a single rotation of the planet.

This is where the real issue is.

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Old April 7th 15, 06:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 4/7/15 12:40 PM, oriel36 wrote:
The planet warms every time a location turns into solar radiation within each 24 hours and cools as the stars of the great celestial arena come into view as the planet turns back into the shadow of the Earth.


It is the cooling that is reduced by greenhouse gasses.
http://edu-observatory.org/olli/Climate/Week1.html



The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm

In the 19th century, scientists realized that gases in the
atmosphere cause a "greenhouse effect" which affects the planet's
temperature. These scientists were interested chiefly in the
possibility that a lower level of carbon dioxide gas might
explain the ice ages of the distant past. At the turn of the
century, Svante Arrhenius calculated that emissions from human
industry might someday bring a global warming. Other scientists
dismissed his idea as faulty.

In 1938, G.S. Callendar argued that the level of carbon dioxide
was climbing and raising global temperature, but most scientists
found his arguments implausible. It was almost by chance that a
few researchers in the 1950s discovered that global warming truly
was possible.

In the early 1960s, C.D. Keeling measured the level of carbon
dioxide in the atmosphe it was rising fast. Researchers began
to take an interest, struggling to understand how the level of
carbon dioxide had changed in the past, and how the level was
influenced by chemical and biological forces. They found that the
gas plays a crucial role in climate change, so that the rising
level could gravely affect our future. (This essay covers only
developments relating directly to carbon dioxide, with a separate
essay for Other Greenhouse Gases.

The History of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide on Earth
http://www.planetforlife.com/co2history/index.html


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Old April 7th 15, 06:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:45:13 PM UTC+1, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 4/7/15 12:40 PM, oriel36 wrote:
The planet warms every time a location turns into solar radiation within each 24 hours and cools as the stars of the great celestial arena come into view as the planet turns back into the shadow of the Earth.



Every era has a chance to make its presence felt for future generations and the recovery of astronomy falls on our generation at this juncture where even the planet's daily temperature fluctuation comes into play in the most fundamental way in response to a single rotation each 24 hours.

You insist the proportion of rotations to an orbital cycle is 366 1/4 rotations to 1 and contrary to every known experience of a rotation each 24 hours and extended on to February 29th which draws attention to the parent observation which determines the fractional proportion as 365 1/4 rotations to 1 orbital cycle.

I am a supporter of funding even though I don't require it myself but for genuine researchers who see the big picture inherent in undoing the damage created by the 'scientific method' . The Earth is not a greenhouse and it warms and cools in two ways over the course of a annual circuit corresponding to two separate surface rotations to the central Sun. This is the foundation of planetary climate, period !.
 




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