Big Bang, Creation or Chance?

HeatWave wrote:

MANY scientists are uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was
created by an intelligent Creator. So they speculate that it somehow
just came into existence by itself. But no one has been able to explain
how that could happen.

Actually, it is as the magazine Scientific American reported in its
January 1999 issue: ?The big bang theory does not describe the birth of
the universe.? The magazine added: ?Another theory describing even
earlier times will be needed to explain the original creation of the
universe.?

Google Alan Guth, bubble universe.

There is a LOT for you to learn

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Cheerful Charlie

MANY scientists are uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was
created by an intelligent Creator. So they speculate that it somehow
just came into existence by itself. But no one has been able to explain
how that could happen.

Actually, it is as the magazine Scientific American reported in its
January 1999 issue: “The big bang theory does not describe the birth of
the universe.” The magazine added: “Another theory describing even
earlier times will be needed to explain the original creation of the
universe.”

HeatWave:

MANY scientists are uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was
created by an intelligent Creator.

Unsupported assertion, until and unless you provide evidence.
And while we are at it, it's the typical cheap cop-out for fundies who know
they can't deal with reality.

The magazine added: ?Another theory describing even
earlier times will be needed to explain the original creation of the
universe.?

Another unsupported assertion (that "creation" of the universe is considered
a fact).
Evidence? None? Thought so.

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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...

My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus

Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian wrote:
HeatWave:

MANY scientists are uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was
created by an intelligent Creator.

Unsupported assertion, until and unless you provide evidence.
And while we are at it, it's the typical cheap cop-out for fundies who know
they can't deal with reality.

The magazine added: ?Another theory describing even
earlier times will be needed to explain the original creation of the
universe.?

Another unsupported assertion (that "creation" of the universe is considered
a fact).
Evidence? None? Thought so.


Take it up with scientific american I gave you the year and date of the
publication. Next you are going to claim it is a fundie magazine.

Physicist Charles H. Townes observed: "It is true that physicists
hope to look behind the 'big bang,' and possibly to explain the origin
of our universe as, for example, a type of fluctuation. But then, of
what is it a fluctuation and how did this in turn begin to exist? In my
view, the question of origin seems always left unanswered if we explore
from a scientific view alone."

It is now accepted that the universe at one time did not exist and
that by some means it came into existence. Can what has been learned
about the laws of the universe help us to understand how this could have
happened?

HeatWave:

"...In my
view, the question of origin seems always left unanswered if we explore
from a scientific view alone."

origin question unanswered != creation is a fact


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Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."

My personal judgment of monotheism: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus

HeatWave:

Take it up with scientific american I gave you the year and date of the
publication. Next you are going to claim it is a fundie magazine.

No need to. Such quotes are _always_ bullcrap. If I have learned one single
thing in three years of examining the jebus death cult then it is that
fundies lie whenever their lips (or hands, on the keyboard) are moving.

--
Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."

My personal judgment of monotheism: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus

HeatWave wrote in news:KZQDg.811$Ji1.287
@trnddc05:

MANY scientists are uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was
created by an intelligent Creator. So they speculate that it somehow
just came into existence by itself. But no one has been able to explain
how that could happen.

Actually, it is as the magazine Scientific American reported in its
January 1999 issue: “The big bang theory does not describe the birth of
the universe.” The magazine added: “Another theory describing even
earlier times will be needed to explain the original creation of the
universe.”

It's clear from the punctuation used in your posts that you do nothing
but steal other people's work.

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http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
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ULC, Modesto, CA

If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier -- so
long as I'm the dictator.
--George W. Bush, Dec. 19, 2000

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:11:54 GMT, in alt.atheism , HeatWave
in KZQDg.811$Ji1.287@trnddc05 wrote:

MANY scientists are uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was
created by an intelligent Creator. So they speculate that it somehow
just came into existence by itself. But no one has been able to explain
how that could happen.

How does adding a creator, intelligent or not, into the mix somehow
explain things better?

Actually, it is as the magazine Scientific American reported in its
January 1999 issue: “The big bang theory does not describe the birth of
the universe.” The magazine added: “Another theory describing even
earlier times will be needed to explain the original creation of the
universe.”

And adding "and g(G)od(s) did it" adds what?



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