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Neil DeGrasse Tyson headed down same loony road as Carl Sagan?
On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 7:05:30 AM UTC-6, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 15:35:30 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel wrote: On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:54:45 AM UTC-6, Paul Schlyter wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 11:03:12 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel wrote: We are here but that says nothing about how many more Earthlike planets there are in the rest of the universe. The number is not important. All that's needed is ONE in hundreds of trillions FEW BILLION YEARS AGO. Which makes the number important: you want it to be greater than zero. But if you drop the requirement of a few billion years ago, we already have one - that's us. Which is proof of principle. If a process can happen once, it can already have happened given billions of years. You claim to be an agnostic, but you are behaving like a dedicated atheist in agnostic's clothing :-) I'm not saying it cannot have happened. I'm merely objecting when you claim we can be certain it has happened. We can **not** be certain about that! There are just too many unknowns involved... I haven't said it's certain. I believe I used the term "virtually certain" once or twice, which isn't the same thing. And if you agree that it could have happened before then we are in agreement. That's enough to place a stumbling block in front of the dedicated atheist. Yep, if you think one single advanced civilization is enough, why not choose the single one we already know? Ummm, we're NOT that advanced. If you think we are, that's hubris. At the moment we aren't, that's true. But what about our descendants in a million years? IF we're given the time. Taking Chris's argument, maybe we'll destroy ourselves :-) I don't think we will, though, because we're being watched over. |
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