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Aliens based on moon Brad Guth please review
Thanks for the reference, Brad. But I discovered a disturbing picture
taken by the Lunar Orbiter. It shows what might be water/ice but it is a liitle to far North of the South Pole. tomcat, What's all that disturbing? It could be just another imaging fault, or damn near almost any form of salt, including most any number of metallic elements as vacuum formulated into dry bone-dry crystals, or just more of the plain old lunar salt-salt that's getting nicely boiled off by day. Spectrum color or rather in this case contrast wise, it's an absolute remote infomercial crapshoot for whatever that or most any other substance could represent. Too bad we still don't have one interactive science instrument that's reporting squat back from our moon, as then we might have known something about the actual surface of our moon. You do realize as to what lunar mascons are suggesting, as to there being such low density pockets of salt or perhaps underground brines, as well as per otherwise having a somewhat shell like heavier density zones of metallic elements to deal with? BTW; how can you manage to interpret upon any of this moon crapolla as for extracting something of moon physical raw element considerations, and at the same time you can't seem to appreciate what has been imaged about Venus that looks simply big-time intelligent and of what represents their perfectly rational infrastructure, being every bit real as all get out? - Brad Guth |
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On 16 Apr 2006 11:39:22 -0700, "Brad Guth"
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message .com: Thanks for the reference, Brad. But I discovered a disturbing picture taken by the Lunar Orbiter. It shows what might be water/ice but it is a liitle to far North of the South Pole. tomcat, What's all that disturbing? It could be just another imaging fault, or damn near almost any form of salt, including most any number of metallic elements as vacuum formulated into dry bone-dry crystals, or just more of the plain old lunar salt-salt that's getting nicely boiled off by day. Spectrum color or rather in this case contrast wise, it's an absolute remote infomercial crapshoot for whatever that or most any other substance could represent. Too bad we still don't have one interactive science instrument that's reporting squat back from our moon, as then we might have known something about the actual surface of our moon. You do realize as to what lunar mascons are suggesting, as to there being such low density pockets of salt or perhaps underground brines, as well as per otherwise having a somewhat shell like heavier density zones of metallic elements to deal with? BTW; how can you manage to interpret upon any of this moon crapolla as for extracting something of moon physical raw element considerations, and at the same time you can't seem to appreciate what has been imaged about Venus that looks simply big-time intelligent and of what represents their perfectly rational infrastructure, being every bit real as all get out? - Brad Guth It's just a HUGE POOL OF FROZEN KOOK-FROTH. -- V.G. "i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" - AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside. Change pobox dot alaska to gci. Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield. |
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On 16 Apr 2006 13:52:19 -0700, "tomcat" wrote:
Brad Guth wrote: Thanks for the reference, Brad. But I discovered a disturbing picture taken by the Lunar Orbiter. It shows what might be water/ice but it is a liitle to far North of the South Pole. tomcat, What's all that disturbing? It could be just another imaging fault, or damn near almost any form of salt, including most any number of metallic elements as vacuum formulated into dry bone-dry crystals, or just more of the plain old lunar salt-salt that's getting nicely boiled off by day. Spectrum color or rather in this case contrast wise, it's an absolute remote infomercial crapshoot for whatever that or most any other substance could represent. Too bad we still don't have one interactive science instrument that's reporting squat back from our moon, as then we might have known something about the actual surface of our moon. You do realize as to what lunar mascons are suggesting, as to there being such low density pockets of salt or perhaps underground brines, as well as per otherwise having a somewhat shell like heavier density zones of metallic elements to deal with? BTW; how can you manage to interpret upon any of this moon crapolla as for extracting something of moon physical raw element considerations, and at the same time you can't seem to appreciate what has been imaged about Venus that looks simply big-time intelligent and of what represents their perfectly rational infrastructure, being every bit real as all get out? - Brad Guth The possibility of 'salt' I hadn't considered. But that is a real possibility. We have salt flats right here on Earth. If it is salt (Sodium Chloride) then it would be a new chemical and 'food element' that hitherto was not known to exist in usuable quantities on the Moon. I doubt seriously if it is a photograph 'smudge' or error because pictures with that would have been screened or explained by NASA. Your knowledge of chemistry is more advanced than mine. Autospnak! Grade A+++ Can 'salt' be used for rockets in any way? Can it combine to make or improve rocket fuel? No, because the "NASA conspiracy" is suppressing that technology[tint]. HTH ESL! -- Bookman -The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in AFA-B Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast) Clue-Bat Wrangler Keeper of the Nickname Lists Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order Hammer of Thor award, October 2005 "I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely "****SPV....... So yes I am an idiot." "ASK THE NWS, YOUR TAX DOLLAR GOES TO THEM NOT TO DR.TURI." - Mr. Turi explains how to accurately predict hurricanes Bookman is yet another Usenet fignuten, meaning naysayer and/or rusemaster of their incest cloned Third Reich. In other words, you're communicating with an intellectual if not a biological clone of Hitler. - Brad Guth tries to wax "scientific", but invokes Godwin, instead. WWFSMD? |
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Your knowledge of chemistry is more advanced than mine. Can 'salt' be
used for rockets in any way? Can it combine to make or improve rocket fuel? tomcat, Actually, I know far less about salt than most. However, along with H2O (even extremely salty h2o) is where almost anything becomes possible. Without H2O is where most everything you can think of sucks, especially when it comes down to being worthy as a good rocket fuel formula, other than nuclear or fusion that shouldn't have to involve elements of sodium, although perhaps the extremely powerful Rn--ion engines can manage to incorporate salt for accomplishing something that'll further benefit thrust. There's all kinds of mineral salts, and there's no good reason to think that our moon hasn't it's fair share of a good selection of salts to chose from. Of whatever's in a given brine that's sequestered within the moon should make it easier to modify those various salts into something interesting. What we need is a for real salt wizard to share and share alike, as then from such expertise we'd each learn of something we could all use. - Brad Guth |
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tomcat wrote:
Here is a direct quote from BRAD GUTH: "These 'name calling posts' clutter up the Usenet, making real discourse difficult." I am in full agreement, Brad. I haven't been able to get a word in edgewise in two weeks. tomcat You, like Bad Gut, have nothing to say. |
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tomcat wrote:
Brad Guth wrote: Perhaps once upon a time aliens may have utilized our once-upon-a-time icy proto-moon for a nifty pitstop, or perhaps that of an interstellar lifeboat as they migrated and/or accommodated their expeditions to/from their nearby Sirius star system, that which our solar system is essentially being pulled along in a very elliptical (100,000 some odd years) orbit by the massive gravity influence of what the combined Sirius star system amounts to as roughly 3.5 sol. At least there's no known laws of astrophysics or of any other physics that's keeping us apart. The "UPN Moon UFO mystery" may be suggesting to us of there being sufficient reason for our having another good look-see, that which those items as having been pointed out by this "UPN Moon UFO mystery" can be quite nicely outdone by our KECK team, that which the KECK methods have already been more than capable of accomplishing this task with better than sufficient resolution. At this point in the grand ruse/sting of the century, our NASA is willing to do whatever it takes in order to convince even the UFO cults that we've been there and done that. Unfortunately, other than having obtained those absolutely terrific telephoto images from such a nearby orbit (which has long been proven by our NASA as per having the capability of such images being robotically obtained) is about as good as it gets. If you'd like a run-through of the following archive, as to what's perfectly believable and of what isn't, just ask and I'll deliver the goods. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ BTW; if ETs wanted a sufficiently nearby base of operations, as such there's absolutely no question that Venus has by far been offering the better alternative for an absolute ET butt-load of perfectly good reasons, which may in fact be of what's depicted in the image(s) that I've identified as such. Unlike the supposed alien moon bases that we have obtained such extremely poor quality if hardly any worthy images to go by, whereas my observationology as a deductive interpreted image of what's quite easily extracted and as replicated to your heart's content from the official Magellan archives, of especially that taken from one specific image file that's absolutely chuck full of what's easily identified as a significant community of large scale structures and of a highly rational infrastructure, are offering us 10+ fold better image quality and 100 fold better complexity of artificial looking content than of the supposed moon bases that are wussy by comparison. Would you like to see? - Brad Guth Thanks for the reference, Brad. But I discovered a disturbing picture taken by the Lunar Orbiter. It shows what might be water/ice but it is a liitle to far North of the South Pole. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lu...info.shtml?642 Perhaps, it is 'something else'. Whatever it is is big. And the circular bright whtie images don't look like mountain tops in the Sunlight either. Anybody have suggestions? tomcat Yup. It was an artifact of the BIMAT photo processing used on Lunar Orbiter. But to know that you would have to actually find out how the spacecraft worked, which you are incapable of doing since your brains fell out of your "open mind." HTH. |
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Aliens based on moon Brad Guth please review
Brad Guth wrote: Your knowledge of chemistry is more advanced than mine. Can 'salt' be used for rockets in any way? Can it combine to make or improve rocket fuel? tomcat, Actually, I know far less about salt than most. However, along with H2O (even extremely salty h2o) is where almost anything becomes possible. Without H2O is where most everything you can think of sucks, especially when it comes down to being worthy as a good rocket fuel formula, other than nuclear or fusion that shouldn't have to involve elements of sodium, although perhaps the extremely powerful Rn--ion engines can manage to incorporate salt for accomplishing something that'll further benefit thrust. There's all kinds of mineral salts, and there's no good reason to think that our moon hasn't it's fair share of a good selection of salts to chose from. Of whatever's in a given brine that's sequestered within the moon should make it easier to modify those various salts into something interesting. What we need is a for real salt wizard to share and share alike, as then from such expertise we'd each learn of something we could all use. - Brad Guth Salt is necessary in the diet of people. So, if those are 'salt flats' then yet another nutritional element has been found. The other possibility is water ice. But it is North of where you would expect to find it. Any other 'white' chemicals it might be? tomcat |
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tomcat,
I'm not a geologist expert, but there's certainly loads of nifty information available that has been telling us about all sorts of highly reflective albedo substances, that which somewhat recent and/or possibly active craters as possible vents have seemingly exposed such highly reflective substances that exceed an albedo of 50%. Otherwise most everything is covered in a rather nasty composite of carbon/soot like graphite plus a dark powder substance of titanium and good old iron (since the electrical insulation factor is so freaking good, it'll have been electrostatically charged like none other). I can't imagine there not being salty brines sequestered within substantial geode pockets or hallow rilles, and of the solar IR as having been roasting within such a near vacuum as having easily extracted such elements to the surface. Rock salts or that of dirty mineral salt deposits should stay relatively put, even with a 2400 km/s passing solar wind, although the lower density of the carbon/soot likes of graphite might not. Of one surface element or composite of elements that looks exactly like a 50/50 blend of portland cement and cornmeal (medium/light gray of 55+% albedo for as fare as the unfiltered Kodak eye could see) is actually not all that likely, much less offered in such a thin but otherwise nicely clumping layer that wasn't the least be electrostatic. At best, we're talking about an extremely dusty surface environment that's not only relatively coal like dark and nasty but, that's unlikely to support 5 g/cm2 unless you're walking on sufficient bedrock, and I certainly wouldn't be all that surprised at seeing a surface tension of moon-dust (AKA dry quicksand) that's worth less than 0.5g/cm2. - Brad Guth |
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Brad Guth wrote: tomcat, I'm not a geologist expert, but there's certainly loads of nifty information available that has been telling us about all sorts of highly reflective albedo substances, that which somewhat recent and/or possibly active craters as possible vents have seemingly exposed such highly reflective substances that exceed an albedo of 50%. Otherwise most everything is covered in a rather nasty composite of carbon/soot like graphite plus a dark powder substance of titanium and good old iron (since the electrical insulation factor is so freaking good, it'll have been electrostatically charged like none other). I can't imagine there not being salty brines sequestered within substantial geode pockets or hallow rilles, and of the solar IR as having been roasting within such a near vacuum as having easily extracted such elements to the surface. Rock salts or that of dirty mineral salt deposits should stay relatively put, even with a 2400 km/s passing solar wind, although the lower density of the carbon/soot likes of graphite might not. Of one surface element or composite of elements that looks exactly like a 50/50 blend of portland cement and cornmeal (medium/light gray of 55+% albedo for as fare as the unfiltered Kodak eye could see) is actually not all that likely, much less offered in such a thin but otherwise nicely clumping layer that wasn't the least be electrostatic. At best, we're talking about an extremely dusty surface environment that's not only relatively coal like dark and nasty but, that's unlikely to support 5 g/cm2 unless you're walking on sufficient bedrock, and I certainly wouldn't be all that surprised at seeing a surface tension of moon-dust (AKA dry quicksand) that's worth less than 0.5g/cm2. - Brad Guth The Moon appears silvery gray. It is composed primarily of titanium and aluminum which accounts for the general appearance. Closeup, however, it may not be so homogenous. This could account for bright blotches of ice or salt or, possibly, some other substance. Likewise, when it comes to dust depth. In some places it may be powder that is 20 feet deep while in others it may be loose gray soil half a foot or so above bedrock. Our best approach to a Moon landing is to select a spot close to the South Pole ice, be prepared for powder dust, and do some exploring to find out what the blotches are. But we need to go to the Moon, this time, with plenty of equipment to really get the job done. NASA is planning on one week on the Moon. This should be expanded to 6 months of exploration. The Moon Base should be set up with the first mission with much of the Base underground. This can be accomplished by digging into the side of a rill. tomcat |
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This is a typical network hype type news "investigative report"
bull**** journalism. There are many factural errors, as the reporter cites Frank Borman spotting a "bogey" while orbiting the Moon during the Gemini 7 mission. (!) Since when did a Gemini have enought delta V to get to the moon? Absolutely no credibility there and total waste of television bandwidth Matthew Ota |
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