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MARS: "Bunny" & Reflective Sand
Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg The claim is supported by the appearance of a white area within Opportunity's tire tracks and the inference: the bunny is whitish; an area within the tracks is whitish; thus the area is the bunny flattened. As the Weird Load page states: "All that remains of the 'rabbit ears' is the white residue in the treadmarks." See: http://www.weirdload.com/art/rovertracks.jpg HOWEVER, the appearance of white areas in Rover-tire tracks is not uncommon. Here are examples of similar white areas in tire tracks: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...R2674R0M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P1131R0M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...R0013R0M1.HTML In my opinion the white areas are obviously where sand has been flattened by the weight of the Rover and is reflecting sunlight. The actually interesting issue afoot is contained in the question: why is that happening? Gilbert Levin attributes this reflectivity to water freezing after being pressed out of the sand by Rover weight: "Other images show the rover tracks clearly are being made in 'mud', with water being pressed out of that material, Levin said. 'That water promptly freezes and you can see reflecting ice. That's clearly ice. It could be nothing else,' he said, 'and the source is the water that came out of the mud.'" http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ce_040229.html Levin's hypothesis is interesting but I suspect it's wrong, otherwise such abundant present water would have been easily detected and reported by NASA. My own hypothesis is: the sand grains are cohesive and glass-like and when compressed by a flat surface (such as the relatively flat areas within Rover-wheel segments) into a flat shape there is therein sufficient granular uniformity to produce specular solar reflections when viewed from the appropriate angle. One can in fact observe an angle-dependent gradation in the whiteness (and thus reflectivity) of compressed sand in the three sample images above. This hypothesis relies on no entities other than those present (the sand) and the attribution of glass-like properties there to. Ian Goddard's Journal: http://iangoddard.net/journal.htm "When we have lived any time, and have been accustomed to the uniformity of nature, we acquire a general habit, by which we always transfer the known to the unknown, and conceive the latter to resemble the former." David Hume |
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"Bunny" & Reflective Sand
"Ian Goddard" wrote in message ... Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg I'm sorry but the remainder of this article appears to be more of the same bs which has been given to the people for years. And we are simply not buying it. You ran over a creature from another planet deliberately as afront to the people, who you regard as morons and sheep and dimwits who believe everything you spout. Well as I said. We ain't buyin it. Scroll down and observe the comparison images from the center of Tycho crater. Those from the Lunar and Planetary Institute and those of the NSC and those of JPL. http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/Th...tm#TychoImages So of course people no longer believe a thing that comes from that the NSC or JPL when the evidence is so obvious that they are doctoring images, and working on some unknown private agenda. |
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"Rick Sobie" wrote in message news:vuJ2c.708087$JQ1.237950@pd7tw1no... "Ian Goddard" wrote in message ... Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg I'm sorry but the remainder of this article appears to be more of the same bs which has been given to the people for years. And we are simply not buying it. You ran over a creature from another planet deliberately as afront to the people, There are several things one may accuse Ian Goddard of being. A NASA employee is not one of them. As for the idea that NASA would do deliberate harm to extraterrestrial life, how silly. NASA would dearly love to find something running around on Mars, as it would give them an incredible tool to extract funding out of the US budget. tim gueguen 101867 |
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In article vuJ2c.708087$JQ1.237950@pd7tw1no,
Rick Sobie wrote: "Ian Goddard" wrote in message .. . Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg I'm sorry but the remainder of this article appears to be more of the same bs which has been given to the people for years. And we are simply not buying it. You ran over a creature from another planet deliberately as afront to the people, who you regard as morons and sheep and dimwits who believe everything you spout. Well as I said. We ain't buyin it. Scroll down and observe the comparison images from the center of Tycho crater. Those from the Lunar and Planetary Institute and those of the NSC and those of JPL. http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/Th...tm#TychoImages So of course people no longer believe a thing that comes from that the NSC or JPL when the evidence is so obvious that they are doctoring images, and working on some unknown private agenda. A meta-question for others: Is there a difference between a kook, and one truly suffering from schizophrenia? Is it possible to tell the difference from just their writings? |
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Dan wrote:
A meta-question for others: Is there a difference between a kook, and one truly suffering from schizophrenia? Is it possible to tell the difference from just their writings? Sometimes I think the real conspiracy is that Usenet was created as a huge study ground by psychologists. -- Greg Crinklaw Astronomical Software Developer Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m) SkyTools Software for the Observer: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html Skyhound Observing Pages: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html To reply remove spleen |
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"tim gueguen" wrote in message news:7yJ2c.735605$ts4.79826@pd7tw3no... "Rick Sobie" wrote in message news:vuJ2c.708087$JQ1.237950@pd7tw1no... "Ian Goddard" wrote in message ... Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg I'm sorry but the remainder of this article appears to be more of the same bs which has been given to the people for years. And we are simply not buying it. You ran over a creature from another planet deliberately as afront to the people, There are several things one may accuse Ian Goddard of being. A NASA employee is not one of them. Simply put, either you are with us, or you are with the Destructagons. As for the idea that NASA would do deliberate harm to extraterrestrial life, how silly. NASA would dearly love to find something running around on Mars, as it would give them an incredible tool to extract funding out of the US budget. tim gueguen 101867 And where is the proof of your assertion? Here? http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/Th...tm#TychoImages |
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"Bunny" & Reflective Sand
And you can attack me, all you want fool, call me names like children
do in playgrounds. You only expose yourself for what you are. So I know you have heard this a thousand times, but "I know you are but what am I" "Dan" wrote in message news:2BJ2c.133025$Xp.564459@attbi_s54... In article vuJ2c.708087$JQ1.237950@pd7tw1no, Rick Sobie wrote: "Ian Goddard" wrote in message .. . Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg I'm sorry but the remainder of this article appears to be more of the same bs which has been given to the people for years. And we are simply not buying it. You ran over a creature from another planet deliberately as afront to the people, who you regard as morons and sheep and dimwits who believe everything you spout. Well as I said. We ain't buyin it. Scroll down and observe the comparison images from the center of Tycho crater. Those from the Lunar and Planetary Institute and those of the NSC and those of JPL. http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/Th...tm#TychoImages So of course people no longer believe a thing that comes from that the NSC or JPL when the evidence is so obvious that they are doctoring images, and working on some unknown private agenda. A meta-question for others: Is there a difference between a kook, and one truly suffering from schizophrenia? Is it possible to tell the difference from just their writings? |
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"Bunny" & Reflective Sand
And sometimes I think that people like you should need a licence
to post to usenet. Crawl back into your skeptic tank lowlife scum of the earth. "Greg Crinklaw" wrote in message ... Dan wrote: A meta-question for others: Is there a difference between a kook, and one truly suffering from schizophrenia? Is it possible to tell the difference from just their writings? Sometimes I think the real conspiracy is that Usenet was created as a huge study ground by psychologists. -- Greg Crinklaw Astronomical Software Developer Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m) SkyTools Software for the Observer: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html Skyhound Observing Pages: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html To reply remove spleen |
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Oops forgot to PLONK you. Thanks for reminding me mate!
-- Greg Crinklaw Astronomical Software Developer Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m) SkyTools Software for the Observer: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html Skyhound Observing Pages: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html To reply remove spleen |
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"Bunny" & Reflective Sand
In article eLK2c.709126$JQ1.630636@pd7tw1no,
Rick Sobie wrote: And you can attack me, all you want fool, call me names like children do in playgrounds. You only expose yourself for what you are. So I know you have heard this a thousand times, but "I know you are but what am I" My question was actually serious, and not meant to be name-calling. I have no idea whether you are schizophrenic or not. But I know that it's a real disease, and it causes a lot of suffering. "Dan" wrote in message news:2BJ2c.133025$Xp.564459@attbi_s54... In article vuJ2c.708087$JQ1.237950@pd7tw1no, Rick Sobie wrote: "Ian Goddard" wrote in message .. . Some people propose that the object seen here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotl..._20040304.html photographed by the Mars Rover Opportunity and known as the "bunny" may be evidence of Martian life. NASA's analysis posted at that page concludes it was probably cloth torn from the Rover's landing airbags. NASA critics also claim that Opportunity was directed to drive over the bunny in order to destroy it. I shall refute alleged evidence for that incredible claim made by Richard Hoagland and others: http://www.weirdload.com/nasa-shame.html http://www.rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/LAxpo/10.jpg I'm sorry but the remainder of this article appears to be more of the same bs which has been given to the people for years. And we are simply not buying it. You ran over a creature from another planet deliberately as afront to the people, who you regard as morons and sheep and dimwits who believe everything you spout. Well as I said. We ain't buyin it. Scroll down and observe the comparison images from the center of Tycho crater. Those from the Lunar and Planetary Institute and those of the NSC and those of JPL. http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/Th...tm#TychoImages So of course people no longer believe a thing that comes from that the NSC or JPL when the evidence is so obvious that they are doctoring images, and working on some unknown private agenda. A meta-question for others: Is there a difference between a kook, and one truly suffering from schizophrenia? Is it possible to tell the difference from just their writings? |
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