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Do Republicians support NASA more than Democrats in the US?
Is it possible that the Republician party in the US supports and has
always supported human spaceflight and NASA more than the Democratic party in the US despite the fact that going to the moon was JFKs idea? I am a registered democrat, a huge supporter of NASA and human spaceflight and usually vote democrat, but think that the Republicians support it more. I think this is probably because most space infrastructure and industry in located in mostly Republician states. I heard once that Walter Mondall tried to stop the Apollo moon landings after the Apollo 1 fire and I think that John Kerry tried to cut funding to the space station back in 1991. What do you all think? Ray |
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"Ray" wrote in
news:VqzVe.12224$ck6.9724@trndny05: Is it possible that the Republician party in the US supports and has always supported human spaceflight and NASA more than the Democratic party in the US despite the fact that going to the moon was JFKs idea? It's an oversimplification. It's true today, generally speaking, but it hasn't always been the case. Looking over the length of each presidential administration since NASA was formed, we find that (adjusted for inflation), JFK was the only Democrat whose administration ended with the NASA budget higher than when it started. Conversely, Nixon is the only Republican whose administration ended with a lower NASA budget than when he started. The opposition to Apollo came from both ends of the spectrum, but the loudest and most prominent opponents (such as the Rev. Ralph Abernathy) were Democrats. During the 1984-93 budget battles over Space Station Freedom, the station always enjoyed much wider support among the Republicans than among the Democrats. The two main opponents of SSF, Roemer (D-IN) and Zimmer (R-NJ) were bipartisan but most of their cosponsors were Democrats. It wasn't until after Clinton took the project over and renamed it ISS that he could even get a majority of his own party to support it, and even then the Democrats supported ISS in lower percentages than did the Republicans. I am a registered democrat, a huge supporter of NASA and human spaceflight and usually vote democrat, but think that the Republicians support it more. I think this is probably because most space infrastructure and industry in located in mostly Republician states. Keep in mind that when the infrastructure was built, in the 1960s, most of those states (with the exception of California) were part of the Democratic Solid South. The voting pattern in those states has gradually drifted Republican since then. I heard once that Walter Mondall tried to stop the Apollo moon landings after the Apollo 1 fire Mondale was a prominent opponent of human spaceflight and was part of the Congressional committee investigating the fire, but I don't remember if he actually seriously attempted to terminate Apollo. and I think that John Kerry tried to cut funding to the space station back in 1991. Not the complete story. Kerry was a space station opponent and voted to cut funding for it every year up until 1998. In 1999, with the first elements already in orbit, he gave up and started supporting the program. -- JRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. |
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Do you mean, intellectual socially-progressive fiscally-responsible
Rockefeller Republican, or religious-fanatic reactionary borrow-and-spend Rove Republican? |
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Jorge R. Frank wrote: During the 1984-93 budget battles over Space Station Freedom, the station always enjoyed much wider support among the Republicans than among the Democrats. The two main opponents of SSF, Roemer (D-IN) and Zimmer (R-NJ) were bipartisan but most of their cosponsors were Democrats. My recollection is that Senator Dale Bumpers (D-AR) was one of the strongest opponents of the space station. Challenger's Ghost |
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Ray wrote:
I heard once that Walter Mondall tried to stop the Apollo moon landings after the Apollo 1 fire and I think that John Kerry tried to cut funding to the space station back in 1991. What do you all think? Ray If I remember correctly, back in 1984, when Mondall ran against Reagan for the presidency (and lost big time), didn’t he vow to get rid of the space shuttle and end all manned spaceflight altogether and use the money “saved” in solving all the problems here on Earth? |
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Paul Mense ) wrote:
: Ray wrote: : I heard once that Walter Mondall : tried to stop the Apollo moon landings after the Apollo 1 fire and I think : that John Kerry tried to cut funding to the space station back in 1991. : What do you all think? : : Ray : : : If I remember correctly, back in 1984, when Mondall ran against Reagan : for the presidency (and lost big time), didn’t he vow to get rid of the : space shuttle and end all manned spaceflight altogether and use the : money “saved” in solving all the problems here on Earth? Yes, "scuttle the shuttle" was the claim. Perhaps, Republicans support manned spaceflight more than Democrats, and Democrats support unmanned spaceflight (climate models, astronomy, science in general). Whereas, manned spaceflight is viewed as an extension of the military to some degree, unmanned is more for pure science. Eric |
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"Eric Chomko" wrote in message ... Perhaps, Republicans support manned spaceflight more than Democrats, and Democrats support unmanned spaceflight (climate models, astronomy, science in general). Whereas, manned spaceflight is viewed as an extension of the military to some degree, unmanned is more for pure science. Which is kind of odd, since the majority of the military's use of space is for communications and intelligence gathering by unmanned satellites. |
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Ray wrote:
Is it possible that the Republician party in the US supports and has always supported human spaceflight and NASA more than the Democratic party in the US despite the fact that going to the moon was JFKs idea? I don't believe that's possible, unless you limit "human spaceflight" to military missions. For example, Eisenhower authorized U-2 missions over Russia; but he thought going to the moon was "crazy." On the other hand, the moon has been viewed as a valuable resource by Democrats, and in my opinion rightly so. To realize its tremendous potential for harnessing solar energy, one need only look through its absence of an atmosphere to its obvious luminescence. The moon has proximity; U. S. space pioneers have been there; and the harnessing appears within reason. Why not get it done, before it's too late? Challenger's Ghost |
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For sake of argument, I will say the Rockerfeller Republician.
"richard schumacher" wrote in message ... Do you mean, intellectual socially-progressive fiscally-responsible Rockefeller Republican, or religious-fanatic reactionary borrow-and-spend Rove Republican? |
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When did Democrats view the moon as a valuable resource? What decade, and if you know what democrats because I never heard of this? Ray " wrote in message oups.com... Ray wrote: Is it possible that the Republician party in the US supports and has always supported human spaceflight and NASA more than the Democratic party in the US despite the fact that going to the moon was JFKs idea? I don't believe that's possible, unless you limit "human spaceflight" to military missions. For example, Eisenhower authorized U-2 missions over Russia; but he thought going to the moon was "crazy." On the other hand, the moon has been viewed as a valuable resource by Democrats, and in my opinion rightly so. To realize its tremendous potential for harnessing solar energy, one need only look through its absence of an atmosphere to its obvious luminescence. The moon has proximity; U. S. space pioneers have been there; and the harnessing appears within reason. Why not get it done, before it's too late? Challenger's Ghost |
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