Israel gaza heating up

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

On Mar 24, 10:56*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

Oh My God, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[I guess the whole Japanese reactor thing just didn't pan out for poor
Bobbert. *Japan is still there...]

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray

in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone

In article ad955a62-e501-40a9-b26f-9d01c8195f39
@k3g2000prl.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 10:56*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

Oh My God, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[I guess the whole Japanese reactor thing just didn't pan out for poor
Bobbert. *Japan is still there...]

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray

Cite? The news I've been reading is more encouraging than your account.

in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone

Permanent exclusion zone? Who, besides you, is making this claim?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

On Mar 24, 1:59*pm, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ad955a62-e501-40a9-b26f-9d01c8195f39
@k3g2000prl.googlegroups.com, says...











On Mar 24, 10:56*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

Oh My God, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[I guess the whole Japanese reactor thing just didn't pan out for poor
Bobbert. *Japan is still there...]

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray

Cite? *The news I've been reading is more encouraging than your account..

in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone

Permanent exclusion zone? *Who, besides you, is making this claim?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

Or perhaps a big building to stand over the 4 reactors for
120 or 200 years? Anyway something the size of city
park unless something nasty is yet to happen seems
the likely extent, IMO.

The waste in dry storage on the site didn't even make
the news which indicates to my simple mind that such
storage should be more aggressively used.

made simple................Trig

On Mar 24, 1:07*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 24, 10:56*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:

bob haller wrote:

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

Oh My God, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[I guess the whole Japanese reactor thing just didn't pan out for poor
Bobbert. *Japan is still there...]

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray
"neutron beams", clear sign of breached reactor vessels.


in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone
A concrete tomb of roughly 5e6 m3 should seal it up. Ten years worth
of tomb construction should be sufficient.

This one is at least worth a level 6, going on 7, and I suppose there
could be a 7.5 to consider as a spontaneous fission kind of really bad
situation, because unlike the singular Chernobyl reactor, in this case
there’s no easy or safe way to bury multiple reactors and each of
their spent fuel ponds without the tear-down prep making everything
worse to begin with.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...uclear.status/

At least a couple dozen really big concrete pumping trucks would have
to operate nonstop for at least a year on delivering 5e6 m3 before all
is secured under a huge pile of concrete, not that local ground water
wouldn’t continue being an issue. And like I said before, $1.28
trillion should make a good start towards covering the first decade of
paying for all of this untouchable spontaneous fission Godzilla mess.

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/tsunami/list.html
Notice the following date and time stamp that was days before the big
one, and I’m certain there were numerous recorded 5+ quakes or seismic
shifts taking place before and certainly long and continuously after
this one of March 9.
“11:48 JST 09 Mar 2011 Sanriku Oki M7.2 Tsunami Advisories”

How the hell could they not have been fully prepared? (meaning powered
down and in full failsafe damage control before the big one). Who the
hell told those reactors nearest the obvious and extensive seismic
activity to keep right on operating in spite of all those significant
and frequent quakes that were rapidly building up?

Because of continued quakes (including the 6.1 as of 2011/03/24
08:21:02 plus their aftershocks, now Japan has liquefied land to
contend with, as well as two tectonic plates sinking at the same time
can’t be a good sign, because it’s like winding up a spring or
overloading a monstrous teratonne diving board that’s called the
Pacific plate, and that new tectonic stress has to go somewhere.
Anyone care to guess at how much Earth is shrinking?

Clearly the officials everywhere on this one are stalling for time,
obfuscating every step of the way. It’s kind of what clowns do best
when all other options are not viable.

“The estimate suggests that the area that has been cumulatively
exposed to radiation of 100 millisieverts or more since the nuclear
accident first broke out, or roughly the amount of a chest X-ray.”
Good grief, lets see how their suggesting 100 mSv or 10 rads worth of
“a chest X-ray” makes any sense for being an acceptable dosage level.

Neutron Beam Seen 13 Times at Japanese Nuclear Plant (means primary
reactor vessels are cracked)
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/worl...ant-53454.html
“Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), the operator of the troubled
Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, said Wednesday that it has
observed a neutron beam 13 times at the plant, Kyodo News reported.

The company detected a neutron beam, a type of radioactive ray, about
0.9 miles (1.5 kilometers) southwest of the earthquake-crippled
plant’s No. 1 and 2 reactors between March 13 and 15. The beam was
about 0.01 to 0.02 microsievert per hour, which is not a dangerous
level of radiation.

The neutron beam may be evidence that uranium and plutonium—used in
the cores of the reactors for nuclear fission—have leaked.”

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-new...alert_03232011
“Getting worse: Radiation levels in Japan are rapidly rising… Levels
1600 times higher than normal 20km from powerplant…”

At least down-wind we have this potential:
“And radiation levels are now 1459000 mSv per year. the average level
of background radiation in a normal city is 2 mSv per year.”

http://mobilidaman.info/japan-reacto...-meantime.html
“A spokesman for Industrial and Nuclear Safety Agency of Japan
Hidehiko Nishiyama said high radiation levels around 500 mSv per hour
were detected in the turbine building of the reactor unit 2 on 2 days
ago”

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fol...1-surges-85000
"Hitachinaka City, Ibaraki Prefecture, saw the highest radioactive
values recorded, with 12,000 becquerels of cesium, iodine and 85,000
becquerels."

A fully naked Godzilla MOX pile of spontaneous fission that's
technically worse than anywhere else on Earth could easily be worth
1000 Sv/hr at one meter, and unshielded at 64 meters distance it gets
all the way down to only the dull roar of 0.25 Sv/hr. I wonder what
if covered with 50 meters of sand and concrete is going to do for us
and especially those of Japan, especially when their prevailing winds
eventually reverse direction.

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Mar 25, 1:56*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Mar 24, 10:56 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

Oh My God, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[I guess the whole Japanese reactor thing just didn't pan out for poor
Bobbert. Japan is still there...]

the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray

It doesn't mean anything.



in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone

Said 'permanent exclusion zone' being the inside of the reactor.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn- Hide quoted text -

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ABC news confirms core breach of reactor #3, there now will you
understand the permanent exclusion zone?

Between the waste core pools, reactors without real cooling for near 2
weeks, wrecked plants which will now be too hot for any workers.......

Chernobyl again only worse, the reactors and waste core pools hold
pluntonium.

Wonder how japanese government will spin this into a reassuring all is
well dont worry about it.........??

On Mar 25, 11:21*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Mar 25, 1:56 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Mar 24, 10:56 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Hamas and Israel exchange rockets, 2 israelis dead.....

Looks ike WW3 is coming

Oh My God, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[I guess the whole Japanese reactor thing just didn't pan out for poor
Bobbert. Japan is still there...]

the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray

It doesn't mean anything.

in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone

Said 'permanent exclusion zone' being the inside of the reactor.

ABC news confirms core breach of reactor #3, there now will you
understand the permanent exclusion zone?

No. *Just what is a 'core breach'? *Do we now save ourselves by
ejecting the warp reactor into space?



Between the waste core pools, reactors without real cooling for near 2
weeks, wrecked plants which will now be too hot for any workers.......

Except they're not, are they?



Chernobyl again only worse, the reactors and waste core pools hold
pluntonium.

This is *STILL* just a pimple on the ass of something the size of
Chernobyl, you ignorant git.



Wonder how japanese government will spin this into a reassuring all is
well dont worry about it.........??

Presumably by telling the truth and ignoring alarmist Chicken Little
types like you.

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
*soul with evil."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates- Hide quoted text -

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Japanese prime minister now admits publically this is a very serious
problem

"bob haller" wrote in message
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the japanese reactors are still melting or have melted down, and
creating rays of energy indicating thee reactor vessels are leaking. I
forgot the name of the ray

in any case the japanese nuke accident hasnt concluded yet and will
likely go on for at least weeks. The clean up will take forever, as in
50 to 100 years with a permanent exclusion zone.

The only trend I've noticed is how this radiation 'creeps' along.

As in early reports are ..'no leaks'...then...'insignificant' leaks
to...'safe for 'humans' to ...'not in food supply' to...'food is safe for
humans'...to...'food is safe for adults only, not children...to 'limited
to Japan'...to...'west coast is safe'...to...'traces in Seattle' ...to

I mean, what's next? When will this poison stop creeping everywhere?

On Mar 25, 10:13*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote:

The only trend I've noticed is how this radiation 'creeps' along.

As in early reports are ..'no leaks'...then...'insignificant' leaks
to...'safe for 'humans' to ...'not in food supply' to...'food is safe for
humans'...to...'food is safe for adults only, not children...to 'limited
to Japan'...to...'west coast is safe'...to...'traces in Seattle' ...to

I mean, what's next? When will this poison stop creeping everywhere?

That's why it's still ongoing, Jonathan. *They have to get it under
control before the damage stops increasing.

I mean, really!

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

Fred ignores the seriousness of this event.

One reactor appears to have a leaking containment. If the radiation
levels get too high on site, and the reactor is already creating
neutron rays detectable off site, the operators will HAVE to be
evacuated.

That means all 3 reactors will melt down perhaps taking out the entire
plant and releasing all the fuel cores in the reactors and all the
waste core materials. including pluntonium.

Such a release could easily release 1000 times what chernobyl did

Most of chernobyls fuel is still on site entombed. Only 5% to 10% got
released off site of ONE reactor.

If the plant totally melts down it will be a global disaster.......

That means all 3 reactors will melt down perhaps taking out the entire
plant and releasing all the fuel cores in the reactors and all the
waste core materials. including pluntonium.

Wrong. *Even full meltdowns of everything there won't cause what
you're whittering on about.

well that scientist misio kacko says one reactor melts down the
entire plant will be lost scince the plants operators will have no
choice but evacuate. the radiation levels will leave no other choice.

no operators means no way to control any of the reactors