FWD: Paul Tibbits, pilot of "Enola Gay", dead at 92

....From various news sources featuring differing outlooks here and
the

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003667044

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...etsobit02.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/...ica/01obit.php

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...0-2703,00.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaT...30281520071101

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_7349005

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...ack=crosspromo

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...476/-1/LOCAL17

http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/...?section=world

http://news.scotsman.com/internation...?id=1747652007

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../02/db0201.xml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7073588.stm

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline...gay-pilot.html

http://www.theintelligencer.net/page...id/501695.html

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp... ttack:_facts

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb...311020003/1001

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb...H&Profile=1001

http://www.contracostatimes.com/nati...rld/ci_7350149

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/168/story/167256.html

Bottom Line: General, on behalf of those of us who didn't have to grow
up speaking Japanese and eating rice and fish heads on a daily basis,
and especially for those of us who happen to actually *be* here
because their fathers and grandfathers weren't killed invading Japan's
home islands, we thank you for your service. The hippies, peaceniks,
treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags may forever curse your
name for simply following orders, but the rest of us know the reality
of the situation, and the necessity of dropping that bomb. The fact
that it took a *second* bomb to wake the Japs up to the need to
surrender before extinction was the clearest possible proof that this
was an enemy too wrapped up in misguided dogmatics to have gotten the
hint through anything negotiable, much less a full-out invasion.

Rest in peace, sir. You have earned it, as well as our undying
gratitude.

OM
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On Nov 2, 1:50 pm, OM wrote:
...From various news sources featuring differing outlooks here and
the

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea...splay.jsp?vnu_...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...89075_tibbetso...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/...ica/01obit.php

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...0-2703,00.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaT...30281520071101

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_7349005

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...ibbets2nov02,1,...

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...1102/NATIONWOR...

http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/...?section=world

http://news.scotsman.com/internation...?id=1747652007

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...07/11/02/db020...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7073588.stm

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline...gay-pilot.html

http://www.theintelligencer.net/page...id/501695.html

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp...The_first_atom...

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb.../20071102/FAMO...

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb...=D2&Date=20071...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/nati...rld/ci_7350149

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/168/story/167256.html

Bottom Line: General, on behalf of those of us who didn't have to grow
up speaking Japanese and eating rice and fish heads on a daily basis,
and especially for those of us who happen to actually *be* here
because their fathers and grandfathers weren't killed invading Japan's
home islands, we thank you for your service. The hippies, peaceniks,
treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags may forever curse your
name for simply following orders, but the rest of us know the reality
of the situation, and the necessity of dropping that bomb. The fact
that it took a *second* bomb to wake the Japs up to the need to
surrender before extinction was the clearest possible proof that this
was an enemy too wrapped up in misguided dogmatics to have gotten the
hint through anything negotiable, much less a full-out invasion.


Truman? No mention of Truman, the man who actually made the decision.
Rather you speak negatively of hippies and peaceniks and have a lack
of respect for the modern Japanese. You should learn another language
just because. You, OM, are the scumbag.

Rest in peace, sir. You have earned it, as well as our undying
gratitude.

Yeah sure.

OM
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] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [
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Eric Chumpko wrote:

OM wrote:

Bottom Line: General, on behalf of those of us who didn't have to grow
up speaking Japanese and eating rice and fish heads on a daily basis,
and especially for those of us who happen to actually *be* here
because their fathers and grandfathers weren't killed invading Japan's
home islands, we thank you for your service. The hippies, peaceniks,
treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags may forever curse your
name for simply following orders, but the rest of us know the reality
of the situation, and the necessity of dropping that bomb. The fact
that it took a *second* bomb to wake the Japs up to the need to
surrender before extinction was the clearest possible proof that this
was an enemy too wrapped up in misguided dogmatics to have gotten the
hint through anything negotiable, much less a full-out invasion.

Truman? No mention of Truman, the man who actually made the decision.
Rather you speak negatively of hippies and peaceniks and have a lack
of respect for the modern Japanese. You should learn another language
just because. You, OM, are the scumbag.

You, sir, are a Chump.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:01:22 -0700, "Scott M. Kozel"
wrote:

Eric Chumpko, catamite troll babbled:

Truman? No mention of Truman, the man who actually made the decision.
Rather you speak negatively of hippies and peaceniks and have a lack
of respect for the modern Japanese. You should learn another language
just because. You, OM, are the scumbag.

....You want other languages? Otsosi tebya, pidar gnoinyj dolboy'eb!

You, sir, are a Chump.

....Hence the reason we call him Chumpko. And based on a photo we found
of him on the Web a few years back, "Squarehead" obviously applies on
all corners.

OM
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"OM" wrote in message
...
The hippies, peaceniks,
treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags may forever curse your
name for simply following orders, but the rest of us know the reality
of the situation, and the necessity of dropping that bomb. The fact
that it took a *second* bomb to wake the Japs up to the need to
surrender before extinction was the clearest possible proof that this
was an enemy too wrapped up in misguided dogmatics to have gotten the
hint through anything negotiable, much less a full-out invasion.

Rest in peace, sir. You have earned it, as well as our undying
gratitude.

I had the chance to meet at a book signing at the- no, I'm not kidding-
National Atomic Museum (to which I was a frequent visitor before 9/11 closed
it). I savored the irony of watching the Japanese tourists take pictures of
him next to models of Fat Man and Little Boy. Deaf as a post, but with a
very firm grip. Got an autographed copy myself.

He wasn't *quite* as gung-ho as Gene Hackman's character in "Crimson Tide".
He knew it was a sucky job and a terrible thing, but somebody had to do it
and he firmly believed that it would save lives in the end (and as we know
from captured Japanese military documents, it absolutely *did*, on both
sides).

He slept well at night, knowing he saved lives.

I expected protestors, but having the museum on Kirtland AFB tended to
discourage that.

Pre 9/11, I was allowed to pretty much drive anywhere on base I wanted, as
long as I had a valid driver's license and insurance.

"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
...

Pre 9/11, I was allowed to pretty much drive anywhere on base I wanted, as
long as I had a valid driver's license and insurance.
The museum has been relocated to Mountain Avenue near Old Town for a few
years. Minus the outdoor displays but they are trying to relocate to an
area where it can all be together again, See http://www.atomicmuseum.com/ .

Regards,

Tex Houston

On Nov 2, 9:50 am, OM wrote: The hippies,
peaceniks, treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags... Let's
face it: Sometimes you *need* an obnoxious opinion in your day!"

Actually that says it all right there you are obnoxious....

On Nov 2, 7:11 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:50 am, OM wrote: The hippies,
peaceniks, treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags... Let's
face it: Sometimes you *need* an obnoxious opinion in your day!"

Actually that says it all right there you are obnoxious....


"Obnoxious" and "perfectly factually correct" are not mutually
exclusive. In this particular case, they are the same thing.

On Nov 2, 7:49 pm, "
wrote:
On Nov 2, 7:11 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation

wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:50 am, OM wrote: The hippies,
peaceniks, treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags... Let's
face it: Sometimes you *need* an obnoxious opinion in your day!"

Actually that says it all right there you are obnoxious....

"Obnoxious" and "perfectly factually correct" are not mutually
exclusive. In this particular case, they are the same thing.

Wow, i guess you can rationalize anything then, even the usage of
antagonistic words that are meant to belittle others. He was
expressing his opinions of people, but just because you agree with
those opinions does not make them any more factual than when he used
them in the first place, i.e. your rationalization does not make
things factual and excuse his obnoxious post.

OM wrote:

Bottom Line: General, on behalf of those of us who didn't have to grow
up speaking Japanese and eating rice and fish heads on a daily basis,
and especially for those of us who happen to actually *be* here
because their fathers and grandfathers weren't killed invading Japan's
home islands, we thank you for your service. The hippies, peaceniks,
treehuggers and other yellow-bellied scumbags may forever curse your
name for simply following orders, but the rest of us know the reality
of the situation, and the necessity of dropping that bomb.

The fact that it took a *second* bomb to wake the Japs up to the need to
surrender before extinction was the clearest possible proof that this
was an enemy too wrapped up in misguided dogmatics to have gotten the
hint through anything negotiable, much less a full-out invasion.

Rest in peace, sir. You have earned it, as well as our undying gratitude.

What makes you think that all hippies, peacniks, and treehuggers were
against the dropping of the atomic bombs? The ones in my family
weren't, even though they knew that Japan had stopped funding the war
several weeks before the end. They thought the Japanese army would
have sacrificed tens of millions of people if the bombs hadn't been
dropped.