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Old September 26th 03, 09:58 PM
Mike Dicenso
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:02:17 -0700, Mike Dicenso
wrote:

The design looks also to based on the Ralph McQuarrie/Ken Adam
"stardestroyer" Enterprise redesign for the abandoned "Star Trek: Planet
of Titans" movie project.


...If you squint really hard, and you're really, really drunk. Maybe.



I said "based on", after all...
-Mike
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Old September 26th 03, 10:31 PM
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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
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1) The sets are too ****ing blue-grey-metal for my tastes. Make the
bridge doors red, dammit! Put some color into the ship, or at least
use some color gels!


Well, they do use blue gels in the decon room :P


...Ah, the blue/green light stick look. Used to be cool, but after
"Nemesis" I'm so sick of cyalumin effects that I want to barf.


Come, now, you'd take the opportunity to rub gel on T'Pol, were it
offered...
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Old September 26th 03, 10:48 PM
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LooseChanj wrote:

They did that from day 1, which is what made me stop watching. This is supposed
to be 100 years prior to TOS, and they have ALL THE SAME TECHNOLOGY. What an
absolute crock. I tuned in after awhile to see if it had gotten any better,
and what do I see? Ferenghi. Jesus. Oh, and if the Enterprise is supposed to
be "exploring", what the fudge are cargo ships doing flying around? Weren't
the vulcans objecting to sending Enterprise out because humans weren't ready?
The show is just one huge plot hole.



Yeah, the timeline screw-ups are so obvious that you can tell that the
writers don't even care- this was particularly annoying when they ran
into the cloaked Romulan ships and mines; the Romulans weren't supposed
to have developed cloaking technology till after the Romulan-Federation
war, which is still well in the future of ST Enterprise's date.

Pat- son of Jim


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Old September 26th 03, 10:56 PM
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OM wrote:

...Which blows totally the already established fact that the Horizon
was a completely different class of vessel, one of the "original TOS
Enterprise" designs that Matt Jeffries did with a command *sphere*
instead of the saucer.


And which became the inspiration for the medical starship Pasteur in the
two-part ST-TNG finale- "All Good Things".

Pat

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Old September 26th 03, 11:55 PM
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
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"Andre Lieven" wrote in message
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It gets... worse... :-( Nothing good to report about season three,
as of yet, three episodes in ( As of last night ).


Last night was the standard Transform the Crew into Aliens episode. Ho

hum.


... and did you note the director of this episode .... a TNG veteran

gb

Could have been worse- according to Voyager, in 10 millions years we turn
into salamanders.
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Old September 27th 03, 01:50 AM
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:55:51 GMT, "G.Beat"
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
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"Andre Lieven" wrote in message
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It gets... worse... :-( Nothing good to report about season three,
as of yet, three episodes in ( As of last night ).


Last night was the standard Transform the Crew into Aliens episode. Ho

hum.

.. and did you note the director of this episode .... a TNG veteran


....Who happened to be one of those transformed on TNG at that.

I've heard of typecasting, but type*directing*? :-P

OM

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Old September 27th 03, 04:15 AM
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"Scott Hedrick" ) writes:
"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote in message ...
1) The sets are too ****ing blue-grey-metal for my tastes. Make the
bridge doors red, dammit! Put some color into the ship, or at least
use some color gels!

Well, they do use blue gels in the decon room :P


...Ah, the blue/green light stick look. Used to be cool, but after
"Nemesis" I'm so sick of cyalumin effects that I want to barf.


Come, now, you'd take the opportunity to rub gel on T'Pol, were it
offered...


You know... On a serious note, not really. If I were interested in
her ( Or, any particular woman ), sexually, then that small amount
of contact would be both frustrating and pointless.

Then again, having not been in a strip bar, aside for my batchelor
party ( The best part of the whole marriage... :-( ), since I hit
18 ( Sorry, OM, I know that encouraging such doesn't help one part
of your bottom line. :-) ), the idea of, in effect, being allowed
to *look* at the food in a restaurant, but not to actually have
any of it... while paying 4 star rates for the "privilige"...

Pass.

Andre

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Old September 27th 03, 07:58 AM
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Hallerb ) writes:

You know... On a serious note, not really. If I were interested in
her ( Or, any particular woman ), sexually, then that small amount
of contact would be both frustrating and pointless.


Sometimes wanting something is better than getting it.


I've heard that. Its insane, and wrong, of course.

Just ask the average married man.


Well, I've been one of those...

The thrill of the chase is fun.


Not the way it's presently organised, its not.

Once your married it becomes a business


Only if you marry the equivalent of a hooker...

before your married you find reaons to be together, after your married
you find reasons to be apart


In general, thats far more true among women, then among men. See
Sanford Braver " Divorced Dads; Shattering The Myths ", especially
Chapter 7 " Who Leaves... And, Why It Matters ".

Need I say more???


Nope. I know this topic all too well, already.

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Old September 27th 03, 08:09 AM
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2003, Andre Lieven wrote:

Pat Flannery ) writes:
LooseChanj wrote:

They did that from day 1, which is what made me stop watching. This is
supposed to be 100 years prior to TOS, and they have ALL THE SAME
TECHNOLOGY. What an absolute crock. I tuned in after awhile to see
if it had gotten any better, and what do I see? Ferenghi. Jesus.
Oh, and if the Enterprise is supposed to be "exploring", what the
fudge are cargo ships doing flying around? Weren't the vulcans
objecting to sending Enterprise out because humans weren't ready?
The show is just one huge plot hole.


Yeah, the timeline screw-ups are so obvious that you can tell that the
writers don't even care- this was particularly annoying when they ran
into the cloaked Romulan ships and mines; the Romulans weren't supposed
to have developed cloaking technology till after the Romulan-Federation
war, which is still well in the future of ST Enterprise's date.


Indeed. Plus, you were left with the distinct notion that the Earth-
Romulan War was the first time, or very close to it, that Earth knew
of the Romulans, their ships, their appearance, and so on.


How did you get this? Nothing in Spock's brief summery to the crew ever
indicated exactly when Earth made contact with the Romulans, nor exactly
when the war started, nor the exactly when it came to an end. It's at best
an implication that the Earth-Romulan war was the first time Humans had
encountered Romulans, but it is also just as probable there was some prior
contact which led up to the conflict.

Now, we move that back 90+ years ? Puh-lease !


Move what back? The Earth-Romulan war was said to have occured over 100
years prior to "Balance of Terror". Having a first contact in 2151
is about right right, with the war following a few years later.
-Mike
 




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