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"Ian Stirling" wrote in message ... In sci.space.tech Derek Lyons wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: In sci.space.tech Derek Lyons wrote: snip question about satellite phones stopping working during ODS However, there is no evidence of intent behind the jamming, leaving unanswered the question as to 'intentional or accidental'. Also, there is no apparent advantage to intentional jamming during a raid, which lessens the likelihood that it was intentional. Given that the phone communicated with other equipment, which then communicated with the satellite, there are two legs vulnerable to interference. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that iridium would provide an improvised C&C system. That's certainly true. But it's still a long leap from the facts (the phone stopped working during a raid) to the conclusion reached by the original poster (the military deliberately jammed the phone). Given that the air raids went in behind an ECM/EW 'wall', it's impossible to discern whether the jamming was intended, or a side effect. There is of course the third possibility, that someone phoned iridium, and asked them to turn of Iraq at 3AM Friday for 4 hours. In 1991 I suspect that it was not the Iridium network. Andrew Swallow |
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In sci.space.tech Andrew Swallow wrote:
"Ian Stirling" wrote in message ... In sci.space.tech Derek Lyons wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: In sci.space.tech Derek Lyons wrote: snip question about satellite phones stopping working during ODS However, there is no evidence of intent behind the jamming, leaving unanswered the question as to 'intentional or accidental'. Also, there is no apparent advantage to intentional jamming during a raid, which lessens the likelihood that it was intentional. Given that the phone communicated with other equipment, which then communicated with the satellite, there are two legs vulnerable to interference. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that iridium would provide an improvised C&C system. That's certainly true. But it's still a long leap from the facts (the phone stopped working during a raid) to the conclusion reached by the original poster (the military deliberately jammed the phone). Given that the air raids went in behind an ECM/EW 'wall', it's impossible to discern whether the jamming was intended, or a side effect. There is of course the third possibility, that someone phoned iridium, and asked them to turn of Iraq at 3AM Friday for 4 hours. In 1991 I suspect that it was not the Iridium network. Oops, sorry wrong war. This time they were rather more aggressive than just jamming his phone. :/ |
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"Andrew Swallow" wrote:
Irrelevant. Incorrect. If the ECM/EW was targeted or just hit every frequency. The satellite channel was still jammed. I have never debated that the channel was jammed, I have however questioned your assertion that it was intentionally jammed. The evidence is not sufficient to make a judgement between them. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
... "Andrew Swallow" wrote: Irrelevant. Incorrect. If the ECM/EW was targeted or just hit every frequency. The satellite channel was still jammed. I have never debated that the channel was jammed, I have however questioned your assertion that it was intentionally jammed. The evidence is not sufficient to make a judgement between them. I never said that a particular channel was intentionally jammed. You added that "information" your self. Andrew Swallow |
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"Andrew Swallow" wrote:
I never said that a particular channel was intentionally jammed. You added that "information" your self. I quote your own writing: I have just remembered there is an example of military jamming of satellite communications. snipped several other quotes to keep the post-to-quote ratio reasonable. No reasonable individual can interpret the tone or manner of your statements, right from the very first (quoted above), in any manner other than intentional jamming. Your further efforts to tie the jamming to military activity, and references to 'probably classified' equipment to accomplish the same only reinforce the impression. Pherhaps in the future you will pay attention to what you post. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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Abrigon Gusiq wrote:
Cell phones are also used by a number of terrorists. Such as the one whose head was blown off by a Mossad replaced phone. They called his cell number, made sure it was he, and blew the explosives up and his head along with it, direct shaped charge? You don't need a shaped charge if you're sure that the explosives are right next to the head of the victim. Which goes to show: Wireless headsets can save your life :-) Juergen Nieveler -- War does not determine who is right, war determine who is left. |
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