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PHOTONS AND CANNONBALLS IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD
The speed of cannonballs shot downwards with initial speed v (relative
to the shooter) varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with the equation (it is assumed that v(v'-v) and air friction is ignored): v' = v(1+(phi)/v^2) The speed of light emitted downwards with initial speed c (relative to the emitter) varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with one of the following equations: (1) c' = c(1+(phi)/c^2): Einstein's 1911 equation given by Newton's emission theory of light. (2) c' = c(1+2(phi)/c^2): Einstein's 1915 equation - the final version in Einstein's general relativity. (3) c' = c: Hawking's equation - the speed of light does NOT vary with the gravitational potential. The frequency of light emitted downwards with initial frequency f varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with the equation: f' = f(1+(phi)/c^2) This equation is compatible with (1) and incompatible with (2) and (3). It was confirmed experimentally by Pound and Rebka in 1960. Generally Einsteiniana presents the Pound-Rebka experiment as a glorious confirmation of Divine Albert's Divine Theory but sometimes Einsteinians make fun of believers by teaching confusing ideas: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...abc7dbb30db6c2 John Norton: "THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts (an Einsteinian famous on sci.physics.relativity): "Sure. The fact that this one experiment is compatible with other theories does not refute relativity in any way. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev: "THE POUND-REBKA EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts: "Sure. But this experiment, too, does not refute relativity. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev |
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PHOTONS AND CANNONBALLS IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD
Is the Pound-Rebka experiment compatible with Einstein's 1905 light
postulate? The speed of photons moving towards the source of gravity varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with the equation c'=c(1+(phi)/c^2) given by Newton's emission theory of light. Einstein's equivalence principle converts this scenario into another scenario where the photons experience no gravitational field but move from the front end (emitter) to the back end (both receiver and observer) of an accelerating rocket. It is easy to see that (phi) = cv where v is the speed of the emitter (at the moment of emission) relative to the observer (at the moment of reception). So the equation c'=c(1+(phi)/c^2) becomes c'=c+v, the Newtonian antithesis of Einstein's 1905 light postulate. By confirming the equation c'=c(1+ (phi)/c^2), the Pound-Rebka experiment confirms the equation c'=c+v given by Newton's emission theory of light and REFUTES Einstein's 1905 light postulate. Pentcho Valev wrote: The speed of light emitted downwards with initial speed c (relative to the emitter) varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with one of the following equations: (1) c' = c(1+(phi)/c^2): Einstein's 1911 equation given by Newton's emission theory of light. (2) c' = c(1+2(phi)/c^2): Einstein's 1915 equation - the final version in Einstein's general relativity. (3) c' = c: Hawking's equation - the speed of light does NOT vary with the gravitational potential. The frequency of light emitted downwards with initial frequency f varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with the equation: f' = f(1+(phi)/c^2) This equation is compatible with (1) and incompatible with (2) and (3). It was confirmed experimentally by Pound and Rebka in 1960. Generally Einsteiniana presents the Pound-Rebka experiment as a glorious confirmation of Divine Albert's Divine Theory but sometimes Einsteinians make fun of believers by teaching confusing ideas: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...abc7dbb30db6c2 John Norton: "THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts (an Einsteinian famous on sci.physics.relativity): "Sure. The fact that this one experiment is compatible with other theories does not refute relativity in any way. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev: "THE POUND-REBKA EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts: "Sure. But this experiment, too, does not refute relativity. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev |
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PHOTONS AND CANNONBALLS IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD
Einsteinians safely discussing the story of Einstein being a Newtonian
in 1911 and then becoming an Einsteinian in 1915: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/co...ity-and-light/ "One of the most interesting predictions of Einstein's new theory of relativity was that gravity would cause light to bend." I think it is worth mentioning that the bending of light due to gravity was NOT a prediction of general relativity. As early as 1704 in his Opticks, Newton predicted the effect. However, the speed of light was not known a the time (or even whether it was finite) so no quantitative prediction could be made. This was rectified by the end of the 18th century and the Newtonian calculation could be made, though experimental limitations forbade any test at the time. In 1911 Einstein applied his early ideas of relativistic gravity to the problem and got the same answer as the Newtonian model. In 1915, when his theory was approaching completion, he realised the earlier calculation was wrong, and the deviation of light should be twice the Newtonian value." Then a very bad person (me) enters the discussion and informs Einsteinans that the Pound-Rebka experiment confirms Einstein the Newtonian and refutes Einstein the Einsteinian: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/co...ity-and-light/ "In 1911 Einstein said that the speed of light varied with the gravitational potential V in accordance with the equation c'=c(1+V/ c^2), which was in fact a prediction of Newton's emission theory of light. In 1915 he added a factor of two and the equation became c'=c(1+2V/c^2). The problem was (and still is) that the 1911 equation is consistent, and the 1915 equation INCONSISTENT, with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka." However in Einsteiniana drawing the attention to the fact that the Pound-Rebka experiment is compatible with Newton's emission theory of light and incompatible with Divine Albert's Divine Theory always makes Einsteinians exercise themselves in crimestop: http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com...html#seventeen George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." Pentcho Valev wrote: The speed of light emitted downwards with initial speed c (relative to the emitter) varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with one of the following equations: (1) c' = c(1+(phi)/c^2): Einstein's 1911 equation given by Newton's emission theory of light. (2) c' = c(1+2(phi)/c^2): Einstein's 1915 equation - the final version in Einstein's general relativity. (3) c' = c: Hawking's equation - the speed of light does NOT vary with the gravitational potential. The frequency of light emitted downwards with initial frequency f varies with the gravitational potential (phi) in accordance with the equation: f' = f(1+(phi)/c^2) This equation is compatible with (1) and incompatible with (2) and (3). It was confirmed experimentally by Pound and Rebka in 1960. Generally Einsteiniana presents the Pound-Rebka experiment as a glorious confirmation of Divine Albert's Divine Theory but sometimes Einsteinians make fun of believers by teaching confusing ideas: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...abc7dbb30db6c2 John Norton: "THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts (an Einsteinian famous on sci.physics.relativity): "Sure. The fact that this one experiment is compatible with other theories does not refute relativity in any way. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev: "THE POUND-REBKA EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts: "Sure. But this experiment, too, does not refute relativity. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev |
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