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Old January 7th 04, 06:17 PM
Douglas Iverson
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Yes, a light year is a measure of distance yet that distance means that
it took one year to travel 6 trillion miles just like it takes one
minute to travel one mile at 60 MPH (88ft/sec) so it can be used for
time as well.

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Old January 7th 04, 07:23 PM
Douglas Iverson
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I could have somewhat misunderstood this question. Although it is true
that precession doesn't change the apparent distance between anything
other than planets (4 min/day) precession did put Vega over the North
Pole when the Pyramids were built but now it's Polaris so in that
perspective the constellations could have looked different from a
latitude perspective.

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Old January 7th 04, 07:51 PM
John Zinni
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"Douglas Iverson" wrote in message
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I could have somewhat misunderstood this question. Although it is true
that precession doesn't change the apparent distance between anything
other than planets (4 min/day) precession did put Vega over the North
Pole when the Pyramids were built but now it's Polaris so in that
perspective the constellations could have looked different from a
latitude perspective.


Actually, the closest (bright) star to the pole during the building of the
Pyramids was Thuban. The pole won't be near Vega for another 11,000 years


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Old January 8th 04, 02:44 AM
Douglas Iverson
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I guessed on the actual star but the point is still the same. Coulda
swore it was Vega.

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Old January 8th 04, 10:01 AM
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Douglas Iverson wrote:

The Big Bang happened everywhere at once since there was no universe or
space/time in existance. Stars move at different individual speeds
outside of the speed of the fabric of space/time and closer stars will
appear to move faster. so the Big Dipper did not look like a dipper in
the past and won't in the future especially when it's stars go
supernova.


I don't think any of the Big Dipper stars are supernova candidates;
the intrinsically brightest one is Eta UMa, a B star with an absolute
magnitude of about -2, and I don't think even that one's big enough
to become a supernova. Some of the others are close binaries and
might therefore have the potential to develop into novas.

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Old January 8th 04, 02:29 PM
Martin Lewicki
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"Greg Neill" wrote in
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"Whisper" wrote in message
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"Douglas Iverson" wrote in message
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The Big Bang happened everywhere at once since there was no
universe or space/time in existance.


Wasn't there? That's crap methinks........

I bet if you go back 100 trillion light yrs there woulda been a
universe in existence..........


Light years are not a measure of time. They're a measure of
distance.

If the current model is anything near correct, both space
*and* time were created in the Big Bang. You couldn't
go back 100 trillion years.



Furthermore. Consider this.

As the light from a distant galaxy reaches us, the galaxy had increased its
distance (due to expansion). So, *now* it is really much further than the
distance we see it as *then*

For example. For an object at we measure at 12 billion light years with a
redshift of 7 (*then*), the distance *now* is 23.3 billion light years.

Qbasic code to do this calc from S&T. Download file LOOKBACK.BAS
http://skyandtelescope.com/resources...icle_326_2.asp
Article S&T September 1997 p59

Martin Lewicki
 




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