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Old March 11th 13, 02:36 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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The Earth does not tilt towards and away from the Sun


===============================================
What does it tilt toward and away from, thug?


-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an
argument
I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.


Readers know I pegged you
================================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


To 'tilt' is an action,a verb -
================================================== =====
n. (which YOU chose to use.)


The act of tilting or the condition of being tilted.
An inclination from the horizontal or vertical; a slant: adjusting the
tilt
of a writing table.
A sloping surface, as of the ground.
A tendency to favor one side in a dispute: the court's tilt toward
conservative rulings.
An implicit preference; a bias: "pitilessly illuminates the inaccuracies
and
tilts of the press" (Nat Hentoff).
A medieval sport in which two mounted knights with lances charged together
and attempted to unhorse one another.
A thrust or blow with a lance.
A combat, especially a verbal one; a debate.
A tilt hammer.
New England. See seesaw (sense 1). See Regional Note at teeter-totter.


Read mohttp://www.answers.com/topic/tilt#ixzz2NEBgo2sS
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


There is no shame
======================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox ?,


It is not your fault so don't worry about it ,the sequence of images
tell you the equinox event is when the polar coordinates are carried
around to a position where the lie on the circle of illumination so
that it is simply a case of applying to Earth what you see happen on
Uranus,albeit that planet due to its daily and orbital traits make it
so much more distinct -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg

The rotational orientation of the Earth is needed for other and more
important purposes and especially defining planetary climate as being
largely equatorial in nature hence your question is about what I would
expect from a mathematician who cannot read what is in front of them
visually -

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

What readers see what looks like axial precession is really an orbital
feature,some may instantly get it while others such as yourself will
not but until you do you are hardly qualified to discuss planetary
dynamics,celestial mechanics or no celestial mechanics.

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Old March 11th 13, 02:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Old March 11th 13, 06:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Mar 11, 12:55 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
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"oriel36" wrote in message

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On Mar 11, 12:02 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"









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"oriel36" wrote in message


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On Mar 11, 10:44 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


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On Mar 11, 9:38 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


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"oriel36" wrote in message


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The Earth does not tilt towards and away from the Sun


===============================================
What does it tilt toward and away from, thug?


-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an
argument
I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.


Readers know I pegged you
================================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil
anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


To 'tilt' is an action,a verb -
================================================== =====
n. (which YOU chose to use.)


The act of tilting or the condition of being tilted.
An inclination from the horizontal or vertical; a slant: adjusting the
tilt
of a writing table.
A sloping surface, as of the ground.
A tendency to favor one side in a dispute: the court's tilt toward
conservative rulings.
An implicit preference; a bias: "pitilessly illuminates the inaccuracies
and
tilts of the press" (Nat Hentoff).
A medieval sport in which two mounted knights with lances charged
together
and attempted to unhorse one another.
A thrust or blow with a lance.
A combat, especially a verbal one; a debate.
A tilt hammer.
New England. See seesaw (sense 1). See Regional Note at teeter-totter.


Read mohttp://www.answers.com/topic/tilt#ixzz2NEBgo2sS
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


There is no shame
======================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox ?,


It is not
======
Shameful wrong answer, you evil anonymous anti-empirical thug.
The Earth tilts toward Polaris all year long, ancient mariners relied
upon it. An ignorant thug like you should be lost at sea. Three strikes,
you are out.

-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.



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Old March 11th 13, 08:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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On Mar 11, 7:08*pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
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On Mar 11, 12:55 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"









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On Mar 11, 12:02 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


wrote:
"oriel36" *wrote in message


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On Mar 11, 10:44 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


wrote:
"oriel36" *wrote in message


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On Mar 11, 9:38 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


wrote:
"oriel36" *wrote in message


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The Earth does not tilt towards and away from the Sun


===============================================
What does it tilt toward and away from, thug?


-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an
argument
I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.


Readers know I pegged you
================================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil
anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


To 'tilt' is an action,a verb -
================================================== =====
n. (which YOU chose to use.)


The act of tilting or the condition of being tilted.
An inclination from the horizontal or vertical; a slant: adjusting the
tilt
of a writing table.
A sloping surface, as of the ground.
A tendency to favor one side in a dispute: the court's tilt toward
conservative rulings.
An implicit preference; a bias: "pitilessly illuminates the inaccuracies
and
tilts of the press" (Nat Hentoff).
A medieval sport in which two mounted knights with lances charged
together
and attempted to unhorse one another.
A thrust or blow with a lance.
A combat, especially a verbal one; a debate.
A tilt hammer.
New England. See seesaw (sense 1). See Regional Note at teeter-totter..


Read mohttp://www.answers.com/topic/tilt#ixzz2NEBgo2sS
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


There is no shame
======================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox ?,


It is not
======
Shameful wrong answer, *you evil anonymous anti-empirical thug.
The Earth tilts toward Polaris all year long, ancient mariners relied
upon it.


Sailing by the parallels they called it,the noble art of seafarers and
how men acted in accordance with astronomical principles,the next
challenge was finding Longitude and that took a carpenter working
against the empiricists of Oxford and Cambridge to provide the
solution using astronomical principles that none of you accept - the
24 hour day working in tandem with the Lat/Long ystem which generates
an equatorial rotational speed of 1037.5 mile per hour which in turn
leads to the Earth turning through its 360 degree/24901 mile
circumference in 24 hours.

The joy that those images bring to people who can interpret them
properly,the single turning of the Earth coincident with the planet's
orbital period and aside from daily rotation is a 100 % certainty and
even a brief imitation analogy using a broom to substitute for daily
rotation/orientation to Polaris while walking/orbiting a central
object/Sun.To keep the broom handle pointing consistently at an
external spot (Polaris),a person soon realizes that they must walk in
such a way as that all parts of their body faces the central object/
Sun along the line of the body a it walks around the object while the
broom handle basically negates the daily rotational elements.Such an
easy way to teach student before showing them images of Uranus doing
the same thing as in the analogy.It is not just the right thing to do
but the most responsible thing to do.

The empiricists who tormented John Harrison wouldn't quit,unlike the
American who proudly display their Space shuttles to the public,the
English empiricists buried Harrison's exquisite timepieces in a
basement in Greenwich for over 150 years.It is you,Nicholson and the
like who are descendants of those dour empiricists for why else would
you contend with the principles which link the 24 hour day with the
Lat/Long system through daily rotation,don't take my word for it but
Harrison's -

"The application of a Timekeeper to this discovery is founded upon the
following principles: the earth's surface is divided into 360 equal
parts (by imaginary lines drawn from North to South) which are called
Degrees of Longitude; and its daily revolution Eastward round its own
axis is performed in 24 hours; consequently in that period, each of
those imaginary lines or degrees, becomes successively opposite to the
Sun (which makes the noon or precise middle of the day at each of
those degrees and it must follow, that from the time any one of
those lines passes the Sun, till the next passes, must be just four
minutes, for 24 hours being divided by 360 will give that quantity; so
that for every degree of Longitude we sail Westward, it will be noon
with us four minutes the later, and for every degree Eastward four
minutes the sooner, and so on in proportion for any greater or less
quantity. Now, the exact time of the day at the place where we are,
can be ascertained by well known and easy observations of the Sun if
visible for a few minutes at any time from his being ten degrees high
until within an hour of noon, or from an hour after noon until he is
only 10 degrees high in the afternoon; if therefore, at any time when
such observation is made, a Timekeeper tells us at the same moment
what o'clock it is at the place we sailed from, our Longitude is
clearly discovered." John Harrison





An ignorant thug like you should be lost at sea. Three strikes,
you are out.


So many things to enjoy ,innovation,invention and the links to
astronomy by people who sailed this planet,Dismantling the agenda of
Newton and later variants is a chore while those imitation analogies
which make planetary dynamics understandable for students is when the
real fun is,yes,fun and satisfaction which astronomy brings to the
genuine practitioner.



-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
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When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I
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Lord indeed !,a dying creature with nothing left to do but try to
sting but now can't make things personal.Go back among your own in
sci.relativity where you all live in your heads and are trapped inside
a labyrinth Newton created for you out of absolute/relative time,space
and motion definitions -a cruel an existence as there is out there and
I would do anything to give people a chance to escape a conceptual
monster that reveals nothing and conceals only the pretense of one
individual in the late 17th century.

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Old March 11th 13, 08:40 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway[_8_]
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"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Mar 11, 7:08 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

...

On Mar 11, 12:55 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"









wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message


....


On Mar 11, 12:02 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message


...


On Mar 11, 10:44 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message


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On Mar 11, 9:38 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"


wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message


...


The Earth does not tilt towards and away from the Sun


===============================================
What does it tilt toward and away from, thug?


-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an
argument
I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.


Readers know I pegged you
================================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil
anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


To 'tilt' is an action,a verb -
================================================== =====
n. (which YOU chose to use.)


The act of tilting or the condition of being tilted.
An inclination from the horizontal or vertical; a slant: adjusting the
tilt
of a writing table.
A sloping surface, as of the ground.
A tendency to favor one side in a dispute: the court's tilt toward
conservative rulings.
An implicit preference; a bias: "pitilessly illuminates the
inaccuracies
and
tilts of the press" (Nat Hentoff).
A medieval sport in which two mounted knights with lances charged
together
and attempted to unhorse one another.
A thrust or blow with a lance.
A combat, especially a verbal one; a debate.
A tilt hammer.
New England. See seesaw (sense 1). See Regional Note at teeter-totter.


Read mohttp://www.answers.com/topic/tilt#ixzz2NEBgo2sS
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox, you evil
anonymous
anti-empirical thug?
Readers will know the answer.


There is no shame
======================================
What does Earth tilt toward and away from at equinox ?,


It is not
======
Shameful wrong answer, you evil anonymous anti-empirical thug.
The Earth tilts toward Polaris all year long, ancient mariners relied
upon it.


We are all done, game over. Three strikes, you are out. FINISHED. **** OFF,
you shameful *******.


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Old March 11th 13, 09:41 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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On Mar 10, 11:32*pm, oriel36 wrote:

If some guys are too dull,too lazy or too incompetent to handle the
new approach to the seasons and why natural noon cycles vary then just
leave this thread alone and don't read it,it is that simple.


Your "new approach" is just plain wrong, because the old approach is
fully satisfactory. It's difficult to pass over in silence as someone
presents nonsense in the place of the achievements of great men of
science - not just Newton and Laplace, but even Kepler and Galileo,
who you claim to revere, but sadly misunderstand.

John Savard
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Old March 11th 13, 09:44 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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On Mar 11, 2:38*am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote:
"oriel36" *wrote in message

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The Earth does not tilt towards and away from the Sun

===============================================
What does it tilt toward and away from, thug?


For his failings, Oriel36 is still a gentleman, and you are hardly one
to be calling someone else a thug.

In any event, he isn't claiming it tilts towards and away from
something else. Instead, he is, it seems, stating the quite correct
fact that we all agree with - as it moves to the other side of the
Sun, so that the inclination of its axis changes from towards to away
from the Sun in the North... it doesn't "tilt", in the sense to which
he restricts that word, in the sense of altering its inclination (the
axis ever points towards Polaris).

He isn't disputing a fact, he's disputing his own misunderstanding of
our vocabulary.

John Savard
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Old March 12th 13, 12:46 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway[_8_]
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"Quadibloc" wrote in message
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On Mar 11, 2:38 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

...

The Earth does not tilt towards and away from the Sun

===============================================
What does it tilt toward and away from, thug?


For his failings, Oriel36 is still a gentleman, and you are hardly one
to be calling someone else a thug.

In any event, he isn't claiming it tilts towards and away from
something else. Instead, he is, it seems, stating the quite correct
fact that we all agree with - as it moves to the other side of the
Sun, so that the inclination of its axis changes from towards to away
from the Sun in the North... it doesn't "tilt", in the sense to which
he restricts that word, in the sense of altering its inclination (the
axis ever points towards Polaris).

He isn't disputing a fact, he's disputing his own misunderstanding of
our vocabulary.

John Savard

================================================== ==
Oh, I see. He can call me a thug because he's a gentlemen, but I can't
call him a thug because you are a hypocritical empiricist who claims
you can go to Proxima Centauri and back in 6 years, wait four more years
and meet yourself coming back because you understand relativity but
misunderstand mathematics?


-- "Quadibloc" wrote in message
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(begin quote)
At the end of Section 3 we find the transformation derived:

tau=beta(t-vx/c^2),
xi=beta(x-vt),
eta=y,
zeta=z,
where beta=1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).

With trivial algebraic manipulation we can derive the inverse
transformation:

t=beta(tau+v(xi)/c^2),
x=beta(xi+v(tau)),
y=eta,
z=zeta.
(end quote)
===============================================
Not only is Savard hopeless at simple algebra, he quotes the drool of some
unnamed moron who is equally hopeless.
Perhaps he can show, step-by-step, his trivial derivation, like this:
xi = beta(x-vt)
Divide both sides of the equation by beta
xi/beta = beta(x-vt)/beta
Since beta/beta = 1,
xi/beta = 1*(x-vt)
Add vt to both sides of the equation
xi/beta +vt = (x-vt)+vt
Since vt - vt = 0,
x = xi/beta +vt

Why is Savard multiplying xi by beta instead of dividing?


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Old March 12th 13, 12:51 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway[_8_]
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"Quadibloc" wrote in message
...

On Mar 10, 11:32 pm, oriel36 wrote:

If some guys are too dull,too lazy or too incompetent to handle the
new approach to the seasons and why natural noon cycles vary then just
leave this thread alone and don't read it,it is that simple.


Your "new approach" is just plain wrong,
=========================================

No, no, no! Oriel36 is a gentleman disputing his own misunderstanding of
our vocabulary. Savard said so.

-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.

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Old March 12th 13, 12:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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On Mar 11, 4:00*am, oriel36 wrote:

To 'tilt' is an action,a verb


In the English language, though, the concept of a verb is sufficiently
general as not to absolutely require change or motion. For example,
"to be" is a verb.

When people speak of the Earth's axis as tilted, they are not
implying, falsely as you correctly note, that it changes direction.
Rather, they mean that it deviates from the "expected" direction.

Something like the Leaning Tower of Pisa. The suffix -ing shows that
the word "lean" is here used in its sense as a verb.

John Savard
 




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