Don't MAKE me come DOWN there!

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Snausages.

Grease stain reveals lost soul idolatrously clashes jizz queen.

Yup.
Yup.
Yup
Yup.
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ah

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:46:14 GMT, "Dr. Why"
wrote:

Hi Doc Yubiwan,

nice to have you back! Hope you (all of you) had a good trip!?

Yes, certainly and thank you Charles.
A Good trip indeed!


Hello again, Charles, and how have you been?

Don't ask my doctors, I myself pretend to feel fine :-)

I sincerely hope all is well, and that you continue to feel better and
better!


Not sure what you're disputing here.

With all that dysfunctional quotings it's not very easy to catch up -
even for me, who followed the discussions all the time, it would be
almost impossible to file thru all postings and get a complete picture.

(BTW, Lomie is preparing for a mission outside the galaxy with Silouen.)

S/he told us already, thanks.

You can't be questioning the 155,012 figure, because it's too well known.

I always question "well known figures", they are mostly wrong.

Not this one.
Looks like Lomie got that particular gem from an American census website.

http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/pcwe

It's not precise, though fairly accurate.


...[those] ... suicide cases would do us a great favor.

Ah, so it is your contention that increasing this figure, the death rate,
is as good as decreasing the birth rate in order to attain "balance"?
I'm only asking because I happen to agree with you if this is the case.
Unfortunately, among my kind, I am in the minority on this issue.

We must have a balanced population, yes.
Even one billion inhabitants are too many on this world, especially if
we want all of them to have a decent standard of living.
(But I preferred a voluntary decrease in our birthrates ...
unfortunately the ruling greed^powers will not allow for the necessary
new distribution of "money").

So now that you have a "real perspective", what will you do with it?

Now as I said before, one word describes why at least 12% will commit
some form of human biocide.

Great: Show up!

Yes, I agree!
Let's make contact, get the bad parts over with, and get on with
exploration.
Again, a minority stance, but in my opinion a good and valid one.

Logic clearly dictates .. :-
Yes, I am on your side!

This must be part of our "mirror" status.
Many people will think they see themselves when they look at us.
This can work both for and against you.
Try walking THROUGH the looking glass, Charles.

I am ready to do that.

There will always be enough kookyness to keep the Art Decos of the world
in
business.

You must understand that the apparent "Aufklärung" {clearing-up} is not
a honest one and never aims at educating people, the goal of AUK people
is to stop people from thinking and to keep them in the dark in order to
make them better exploitable for the top ruling class.

Yet, I do agree with your "new better mankind" assessment.
The problem here stems moreso from the fact that every human we've
contacted
"closely", or in other words in a personal way which affords them
undisputable evidence of our existence, has taken a different stance.
Thus far, the vast majority of close contacts feel that the price is
still
too high.

This is proof that you contacted the wrong people.


They'll kill themselves, their families and friends, their bosses and
employees, their cats and dogs.

Now that you mention the animals, you have my attention .. but then --
they kill millions of animals for lesser reasons.

Interesting, what gets your attention, Charles.
Why are you more attentive to lower, less sentient forms.
Rooting for the underdogs? G

Unlike you, I do not discriminate.

Well forgive me, Charles, but apparently you Do discriminate.
If your attention is had by animals over humans, that is.

There is only one eternal soul and
it makes no difference what form or body it inhabits at a certain time
or place in this universe.

It's time for the big change!

I agree.
And this issue is highly controversial with us.

Well - I am ready to defend that view in front of your "top leaders".

{12% "suicides}
This 12% figure also represents the murder victims.
Not sure Lomie made that clear.

Well I would not call "murder" suicide .. :-)

You're absolutely right, of course.
We wouldn't either, however we used to call it that at one time.
The PSR, which stands for the human Potential Suicide Rate, is a throwback
term.
It's very dated because back before we began to study humans as individuals,
back when our human study focused at only the species level, a human killing
another human was a factor in "species suicide".
Of course, we now see the importance in making the distinction, but up to
now we saw no need to alter the term, PSR.

So from now on we shall refer to the rate of potential human biocide as the
PBR.
Thank you so much for your wise input.
Inaccuracy is the mother of confusion.

Ok, I see we must make sure that all people may have a choice
of their own ... Again, that's a question of proper information and
a retrenchment of the top villains.


This planet is ready to face the truth.

Again, I agree.
Too bad you and I aren't better represented in the bargaining. G

We are not? So why NOT? What make them decision-makers, TPTB, over us?

C.

They are TPTB over the entire galaxy is I suppose what does so.
And they have the interests of the galaxy to look after.
Human beings are believed to possess a mighty potential for many good
things.
Even the loss of the minimum 12% is totally unacceptable to some in terms of
loss to this potential.
From the human perspective, how many Newtons or Einsteins, Sagans or
Hawkings might be in that 12%?
Such a loss might very well cripple the power of humans to be one of the
brighter lamps for our galaxy.

I personally feel it's time to take our chances with the 88%!
Or even a lower percentage if necessary.

Yubiwan

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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:46:08 GMT, "Lomie"

wrote:

So Kali, if it were you and you alone who must make the decision,
would
you
opt for official contact (fully aware that at least 12% of
humanity
would
be
victim to one form of biocide or another)?

I still see no prove for your figures... why should 780 Million
people
commit suicide just from learning that they are not alone in the
universe?

On the other hand.. we have wars and violence, murder and homicide
by the millions every day. Did you consider how THAT figure would
drop
if man had a real perspective?

C.

Actually, the combined figures for every kind of death in the world
is
presently 155,012 per day, Charles.

And before you hail us in with open arms to decrease this figure,
you
might
wanna think about how you'll handle the daily global birth rate of
358,522.
Even with over 150,000 daily deaths, this still represents an
increase
of
nearly 75 million babes each year.
Earth's human population is expected to top 6½ billion people toward
the
end
of this month.

So now that you have a "real perspective", what will you do with it?

Now as I said before, one word describes why at least 12% will
commit
some
form of human biocide.

F E A R

First Encounter Assult Recon - too good a game!


If you can't see it, you can't see it.

But rest assured, when Earth unifies with the rest of life in the
universe,
many people just won't know how to deal with it.
They'll kill themselves, their families and friends, their bosses
and
employees, their cats and dogs.
And they will justify what they do by thinking of it as the lesser
of
two
evils.
There can be no containment, as it will all happen practically in
the
blink
of an eye.

And, for the most part, the only ones who Won't commit
murder/suicide
are
the ones who are too afraid to.

Don't know about that Lomie. I know I wont be trying to kill myself.
Now,
maybe some of my fellow humans will bump me off before they go out
themselves, but it'll only be because I didn't duck fast enough. There
are
real problems that need to be solved, and mysteries to uncover (like
where
*do* all those socks and underware missing from the laundry really
go?)
that I'll simply be too buisy to think about suicide for a few
thousand
centuries. I can understand why you wish to converse with the Art Deco
personality now, pre contact. I imagine that type human will be almost
extinct after you initiate FOC. Best to study a dying species before
the
end...

Actually Greysky, you may find it hard to believe, but Darla some time
ago
estimated Artie, along with yourself, the nightbat, D-A, and a few
others
here as being of "Sagan ilk".
Or "saganesque" as she often says.

It's a long story, but you see, Carl Sagan was the most fearless
astronomer
to ever live on Earth.
And believe me, there have been some REALLY fearless astronomers in the
past.
Carl Sagan somehow knew about us even before we contacted him.
Don't ask me how, even Darla doesn't know how, but he knew!
And when we contacted him, instead of cringing in fear as most humans
would
do, Sagan strode right up to me.
YES! right up to me! and he said, "You're the youngest, aren't you? I
can
tell by your eyes."
By my eyes! just by looking me in the eyes he could tell!

So anyways, when we began to talk about the possibility of official
contact
and the PSR, Sagan indicated that he had already surmised what would
happen.
He had long been troubled because he knew we were here, and he knew what
would happen if we went global.
Sagan agreed that people just weren't yet ready for us, and that contact
must wait a while longer.

Greysky, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you.
All I know is that if we had a foolproof way of being able to tell who
would
snap and who wouldn't, we would be able to contain the first contact
biocide
rate to a whole lot better than 12%.
But our long experience shows that there is no known way for us to
contain
this.
And the only ones who CAN contain it are the indigenous peoples
themselves.
They help themselves by being alert and fearless, "ducking" as you said.
But even with all this, the best we can hope for is still high, the 12%
figure.

So anyways, on a happier note, Mom and Dad are returning from Virgo
Central!
Also, Dr. Yubiwan is back, and Silouen has noted a significant change in
the
H-substance anomaly at the center of our Local Group.
So I have a mission!
I get to go with Sil and study the gravity thingie!
Aarrrrrggghhhhhh !!!
I FINALLY get to get out of this galaxy!

I LOVE you guys, ALL of you!
Gotta prepare, so I'll see you soon.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
Lomie


Your personal visit with Carl Sagan really did him good since he's now
dead
!!

HJ ( I'll pass on the personal visit from you )



The notorious Honest John.
Who almost singlehandedly has helped us to sustain an air of high
unlikelyhood.

I suppose it's okay to tell you this, for I'm sure no one will believe me
when I say that Dr. Sagan is alive and well.
He is presently studying the comet sources - up close and personal!

Yubiwan

"Daedalus" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:32:18 GMT, "Lomie"
, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article sudHf.11919$id5.6358@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:12:08
GMT, Lomie says...

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"

wrote:

Hello Charles and Heather!

Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921.
We rescued her on Dec. 7, 1941, just a few days following her 20th
birthday.
Her plane had been shot down by a new American battleship weapon.
We wanted to study the damage, so we rescued the plane.
We had to reassemble Kiyo and revive her.
She came through it rather nicely, I think.

While her calendar age is almost 85 years, her mental age is nearly
200
years, and her physical age is presently about 53 years.
She chose not to age her body there for awhile, and then after
reading
about
the sean aging rituals, she asked to participate.
Darla, thinking it was just a little bit unusual, okayed it
anyways.
Not long after this, Kiyo became the H H I C of our crew.
Then she and Ollie became a "thing", and now she's pregnant with
triplets
(girls girls girls hee hee ).

Despite her hefty IQ, Kiyo does get a little flustered by some of
the
modern
methods humans have devised to deal with their tremendous levels of
fear,

Like making up stories about aliens and referring to herself in
the third person?

such as in the coffeeboi posts this thread.
Couldn't you just FEEL the sweat oozing off the foreheads of Brucie
and
K-man as they typed those words of yawning?
So wonderfully true to their primate heritage!

Thank you!

Lomie

I would have loved to hear that her biological age had stopped at 25
:-)
How would anyone (especially any female one) like to partake in an
"aging program"?

Just wondering...
C.

Okay, after we put Kiyo back together (I did most of it because I was
freshly studying the technique. It was sort of a "test" for me.),
Darla
explained to her that we could help her stop aging if she wanted.
Kiyo chose to stop aging, but then a few years later she began to
study
us
with a passion.
When she came across the sean aging rites, she seemed to be impressed
with
the logic behind them.
So she asked to participate, and she's been aging ever since.

Now, when she gets a little older (she is almost to the human
extraction
period) she will reverse the process and her body will, uhm, age
negatively?

Okie dokie.

I'm not sure what to call it because there is no human word to cover
it,
because it never happens on your planet.

Waitasec, I just found it in one of your books.
You have the mental equivalent you call "age regression".
Well, this would be a physical age regression.

Why not?

So anyways, when her body un-ages back to whatever age she decides to
stabilize at, that age is where she'll stay until the next aging rite.

So she partook in the aging program because she wanted to enjoy the
benefits
of aging MENTALLY.
The mental age stays with you even after your body un-ages back to a
favored
physical age.
And of course there are several other benefits that we'll tell
everyone
about shortly following FOC.

Lomie

Aw, don't hold back *now*... have another of whatever it is, and
post some more.

Kali
--
"We found a great number of books...and since they contained
nothing but superstitions and falsehoods of the Devil we burned
them all." - Bishop Diego De Landa, who burned priceless books
of Mayan history and science

Okay, Kali, if you promise not to woooooosh me, too. G

By the way, did I mention that I'm not really an alien?
Silouen and I were both born on Earth.

Did you grow up in the same ward?


And anyways, another short-term benefit begins to manifest itself either
the
second or third time you go through the aging rite.
Each time you regress physically, your skin thickens back to normal for
the
age you go back to.
And each time, the skin actually thickens a teeny bit more, so after the
third or fourth ritual experience, your skin has thickened to where it is
So
much harder to pierce or bruise you.

Can you do the same skin thickening process to Bohner so he doesn't
get so hysterical and whiny when people make fun of him?

Yet it is hardly noticeable in terms of any burdening difference from
normal.

One long-term advantage we've found is that while the mental age
saturates
(ceases to increase) after a few million years, it does undergo a series
of
"jumps" after that where it increases just a little every few times you
practice the ritual.
The main reason weuns the seans practice this ritual is to remind us of
all
the reasons we do not like to age physically.
Well, at least that's My main reason.
Others have their own reasons, I suppose.

Just between you and me, we're all hoping that by participating in our
aging
ritual, Kiyo will feel better about both herself and her presence here
with
us.
I love her very much, as she's like a second Mom to me, so I'm hoping
she's
able to go on fighting the strong tendency to want to die.
But life doesn't really get that much easier.

Lomie


Lemme ask you something, has any real live person ever bought a
scintilla of this hokum you're spewing?

Jade



No, of course not, Jade.
I certainly wouldn't.
We have to supply our closer human contacts with much harder evidence than
just this hokum.

Yubiwan

"Kali" wrote in message
...
In article SaLHf.382862$qk4.46192@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:32:18
GMT, Lomie says...

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article sudHf.11919$id5.6358@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:12:08
GMT, Lomie says...

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"

wrote:

Hello Charles and Heather!

Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921.
We rescued her on Dec. 7, 1941, just a few days following her 20th
birthday.
Her plane had been shot down by a new American battleship weapon.
We wanted to study the damage, so we rescued the plane.
We had to reassemble Kiyo and revive her.
She came through it rather nicely, I think.

While her calendar age is almost 85 years, her mental age is nearly
200
years, and her physical age is presently about 53 years.
She chose not to age her body there for awhile, and then after
reading
about
the sean aging rituals, she asked to participate.
Darla, thinking it was just a little bit unusual, okayed it
anyways.
Not long after this, Kiyo became the H H I C of our crew.
Then she and Ollie became a "thing", and now she's pregnant with
triplets
(girls girls girls hee hee ).

Despite her hefty IQ, Kiyo does get a little flustered by some of
the
modern
methods humans have devised to deal with their tremendous levels of
fear,

Like making up stories about aliens and referring to herself in
the third person?

such as in the coffeeboi posts this thread.
Couldn't you just FEEL the sweat oozing off the foreheads of Brucie
and
K-man as they typed those words of yawning?
So wonderfully true to their primate heritage!

Thank you!

Lomie

I would have loved to hear that her biological age had stopped at 25
:-)
How would anyone (especially any female one) like to partake in an
"aging program"?

Just wondering...
C.

Okay, after we put Kiyo back together (I did most of it because I was
freshly studying the technique. It was sort of a "test" for me.),
Darla
explained to her that we could help her stop aging if she wanted.
Kiyo chose to stop aging, but then a few years later she began to
study
us
with a passion.
When she came across the sean aging rites, she seemed to be impressed
with
the logic behind them.
So she asked to participate, and she's been aging ever since.

Now, when she gets a little older (she is almost to the human
extraction
period) she will reverse the process and her body will, uhm, age
negatively?

Okie dokie.

I'm not sure what to call it because there is no human word to cover
it,
because it never happens on your planet.

Waitasec, I just found it in one of your books.
You have the mental equivalent you call "age regression".
Well, this would be a physical age regression.

Why not?

So anyways, when her body un-ages back to whatever age she decides to
stabilize at, that age is where she'll stay until the next aging rite.

So she partook in the aging program because she wanted to enjoy the
benefits
of aging MENTALLY.
The mental age stays with you even after your body un-ages back to a
favored
physical age.
And of course there are several other benefits that we'll tell
everyone
about shortly following FOC.

Lomie

Aw, don't hold back *now*... have another of whatever it is, and
post some more.

Kali
--
"We found a great number of books...and since they contained
nothing but superstitions and falsehoods of the Devil we burned
them all." - Bishop Diego De Landa, who burned priceless books
of Mayan history and science

Okay, Kali, if you promise not to woooooosh me, too. G

By the way, did I mention that I'm not really an alien?
Silouen and I were both born on Earth.

Yet you refer to yourself that say, as if you were.

Lomie's response, "Only while playing with coffee boys, mon liege."
Apparently she's been being her typical young self with the
fearless-though-often-tedious Art Deco.
That's his draw, you know.
Darla noticed it from the onset.
And from what I've seen, Darla hit the nail on the point (so as not to split
Deco's wooden head? G).

How long have you all been sharing one posting account? It is as
if you are parts of one mind.

We share many accounts, Kali.
The ones we're using presently have been the least troublesome, so we
continue to do so.
And in a very real sense, we're All, seans and humans and all life, we're
All parts of one mind, mon cher.


And anyways, another short-term benefit begins to manifest itself either
the
second or third time you go through the aging rite.
Each time you regress physically, your skin thickens back to normal for
the
age you go back to.
And each time, the skin actually thickens a teeny bit more, so after the
third or fourth ritual experience, your skin has thickened to where it is
So
much harder to pierce or bruise you.
Yet it is hardly noticeable in terms of any burdening difference from
normal.

So in this ritual process, old skin is replaced with new skin
that is somehow higher in collagen? How long does this take?

The rejuvenation process takes as many years as it takes to get back to
whatever age you want to stay.
It's a one-year-up, one-year-back time frame - one for one.
(Actually it does take a wee bit longer to rejuvenate than it takes to age,
but it's a 1-1 correspondence for all intent and purpose.)

One long-term advantage we've found is that while the mental age
saturates
(ceases to increase) after a few million years, it does undergo a series
of
"jumps" after that where it increases just a little every few times you
practice the ritual.

Tell me about this ritual.

Seans have been practicing this ritual ever since we stopped aging.
When we left our planet to explore first the Sagittarius arm where our home
planet was located, we almost immediately noted that one of the beneficial
effects of being well outside the gravity sinks of our planet and star was a
very significant slowing of the aging process.
This was studied intensely until we saw how to stop the aging process
altogether and even reverse it.
Then after a very long time, the older ones who cared for the rest of us
decided to create this ritual.
It keeps us sane, really.
(Ha! "All evidence to the contrary!" I make would be a good response to
that.)

The main reason weuns the seans practice this ritual is to remind us of
all
the reasons we do not like to age physically.
Well, at least that's My main reason.
Others have their own reasons, I suppose.

Are you saying that aliens are subject to human vanity?

We are subject to vanity, yes.
Humans certainly didn't invent the concept.
And we prefer to see vanity as not just mere self-indulgence, but as a
sincere caring and love for oneself.
You must love and care for yourself before you can truly know how to love
and care for another.


Just between you and me, we're all hoping that by participating in our
aging
ritual, Kiyo will feel better about both herself and her presence here
with
us.
I love her very much, as she's like a second Mom to me, so I'm hoping
she's
able to go on fighting the strong tendency to want to die.
But life doesn't really get that much easier.

Lomie

Why does Kiyo say she wants to die?

Well, it's not uncommon.

Kiyo is a first-generation human being in space.
There are no first-generation sean beings left alive even though many of
them lived for an extremely long time before committing suicide.
Probably very few second-generation ones for that matter, and in fact, I
don't know any.
It seems normal that by the third generation, living beings begin to truly
get their "space legs".
Everyone in our crew is either a third- or fourth-generation sean.

In her mind, Kiyo has very strong religious ties to her place of birth on
the isle of Okinawa.
She wants to die to "be with her dead loved ones" and to alleviate the guilt
she feels for outliving them.
Seems quite natural, actually.
Might mention also that she's not truly happy with the results of her role
in the harbor attack in which her plane was shot down.
Like all humans, Kiyo carries a lot of emotional baggage.

Yubiwan

"Twittering One" wrote in message
oups.com...
"Don't MAKE me come DOWN there!
I suppose it's okay to tell you this,
For I'm sure no one will believe me when I say
That Dr. Sagan

Is alive and well.
He is presently studying the comet sources ~
Up close and personal ~ !"
~ Dr. Why

"Did he make his bed,
Say his prayers,
Count his luck stars before climbing
In ~ ?"
~ Francois Sagan


Ah, Dearest beloved Twittering One!
To paraphrase Francois in another quote -

"Wisdom makes no sense unless it inspires
people to take it off of you."

Yubing One

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"Lomie" wrote in message
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:46:08 GMT, "Lomie"

wrote:

So Kali, if it were you and you alone who must make the
decision,
would
you
opt for official contact (fully aware that at least 12% of
humanity
would
be
victim to one form of biocide or another)?

I still see no prove for your figures... why should 780 Million
people
commit suicide just from learning that they are not alone in the
universe?

On the other hand.. we have wars and violence, murder and
homicide
by the millions every day. Did you consider how THAT figure would
drop
if man had a real perspective?

C.

Actually, the combined figures for every kind of death in the
world
is
presently 155,012 per day, Charles.

And before you hail us in with open arms to decrease this figure,
you
might
wanna think about how you'll handle the daily global birth rate of
358,522.
Even with over 150,000 daily deaths, this still represents an
increase
of
nearly 75 million babes each year.
Earth's human population is expected to top 6½ billion people
toward
the
end
of this month.

So now that you have a "real perspective", what will you do with
it?

Now as I said before, one word describes why at least 12% will
commit
some
form of human biocide.

F E A R

First Encounter Assult Recon - too good a game!


If you can't see it, you can't see it.

But rest assured, when Earth unifies with the rest of life in the
universe,
many people just won't know how to deal with it.
They'll kill themselves, their families and friends, their bosses
and
employees, their cats and dogs.
And they will justify what they do by thinking of it as the lesser
of
two
evils.
There can be no containment, as it will all happen practically in
the
blink
of an eye.

And, for the most part, the only ones who Won't commit
murder/suicide
are
the ones who are too afraid to.

Don't know about that Lomie. I know I wont be trying to kill myself.
Now,
maybe some of my fellow humans will bump me off before they go out
themselves, but it'll only be because I didn't duck fast enough.
There
are
real problems that need to be solved, and mysteries to uncover (like
where
*do* all those socks and underware missing from the laundry really
go?)
that I'll simply be too buisy to think about suicide for a few
thousand
centuries. I can understand why you wish to converse with the Art
Deco
personality now, pre contact. I imagine that type human will be
almost
extinct after you initiate FOC. Best to study a dying species before
the
end...

Actually Greysky, you may find it hard to believe, but Darla some time
ago
estimated Artie, along with yourself, the nightbat, D-A, and a few
others
here as being of "Sagan ilk".
Or "saganesque" as she often says.

It's a long story, but you see, Carl Sagan was the most fearless
astronomer
to ever live on Earth.
And believe me, there have been some REALLY fearless astronomers in
the
past.
Carl Sagan somehow knew about us even before we contacted him.
Don't ask me how, even Darla doesn't know how, but he knew!
And when we contacted him, instead of cringing in fear as most humans
would
do, Sagan strode right up to me.
YES! right up to me! and he said, "You're the youngest, aren't you? I
can
tell by your eyes."
By my eyes! just by looking me in the eyes he could tell!

So anyways, when we began to talk about the possibility of official
contact
and the PSR, Sagan indicated that he had already surmised what would
happen.
He had long been troubled because he knew we were here, and he knew
what
would happen if we went global.
Sagan agreed that people just weren't yet ready for us, and that
contact
must wait a while longer.

Greysky, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you.
All I know is that if we had a foolproof way of being able to tell who
would
snap and who wouldn't, we would be able to contain the first contact
biocide
rate to a whole lot better than 12%.
But our long experience shows that there is no known way for us to
contain
this.
And the only ones who CAN contain it are the indigenous peoples
themselves.
They help themselves by being alert and fearless, "ducking" as you
said.
But even with all this, the best we can hope for is still high, the
12%
figure.

So anyways, on a happier note, Mom and Dad are returning from Virgo
Central!
Also, Dr. Yubiwan is back, and Silouen has noted a significant change
in
the
H-substance anomaly at the center of our Local Group.
So I have a mission!
I get to go with Sil and study the gravity thingie!
Aarrrrrggghhhhhh !!!
I FINALLY get to get out of this galaxy!

I LOVE you guys, ALL of you!
Gotta prepare, so I'll see you soon.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
Lomie


Your personal visit with Carl Sagan really did him good since he's now
dead
!!

HJ ( I'll pass on the personal visit from you )



The notorious Honest John.
Who almost singlehandedly has helped us to sustain an air of high
unlikelyhood.

I suppose it's okay to tell you this, for I'm sure no one will believe me
when I say that Dr. Sagan is alive and well.
He is presently studying the comet sources - up close and personal!

Yubiwan


Is he being assisted by Elvis ?

HJ

"Twittering One" wrote in message
ups.com...
"I believe ~ !"
~ The Lightman


Take the Lithium

"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 19:53:28 -0700, Art Deco says...

Kali wrote:

In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 16:10:15 -0700, Art Deco says...

Lamie, the current sockpuppet of the fake
alien, wrote:

[...]

PS: As I'm sure you know by now, I was born on Earth, so I'm not an
alien.
I'm as indigenous to this planet as you are, sweet human.
But if calling me an alien floats your boat, I'm sure I can
continue
the role.

Your other sockpuppets claim to be millions of years old, so this
little hedge is meaningless.

PPS: Things go better with koak! hee hee

Another kooksign.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:
Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921...
and now she's pregnant with triplets (girls girls girls
hee hee ).


I believe the Sil and Darla socks fall into the gazillions old claim
bucket.

Unbelievable!1!! Really.

Kali

We've made many claims, few of which are believable without better evidence.
Your own claim above is, of course, Not unbelievable.
Unfortunately, this believability issue seems to be important to a lot of
people.
Don't take this wrong, dearest Kali, but doesn't this all stem from fear?

Still mistaking laughter for fear, fake alien?

People appear to be as afraid to believe in advanced aliens as they are
afraid Not to believe in a deity.
Why do you suppose this is?

The question is silly because it assumes a false premise.

Yubiwan

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

Monkey Boy wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:53:28 -0700, Art Deco
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
:

Kali wrote:

In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 16:10:15 -0700, Art Deco says...

Lamie, the current sockpuppet of the fake
alien, wrote:

[...]

PS: As I'm sure you know by now, I was born on Earth, so I'm not an alien.
I'm as indigenous to this planet as you are, sweet human.
But if calling me an alien floats your boat, I'm sure I can continue
the role.

Your other sockpuppets claim to be millions of years old, so this
little hedge is meaningless.

PPS: Things go better with koak! hee hee

Another kooksign.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:
Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921...
and now she's pregnant with triplets (girls girls girls
hee hee ).


I believe the Sil and Darla socks fall into the gazillions old claim
bucket.

The term you're looking for is "honey bucket". HTH.

I'm wondering if he/she/it has to keep a cheat sheet handy while
juggling sockpuppets.

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003