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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
We know the space between galaxies is expanding,and yet Andromeda are
closest galaxy is moving towards us. Well my concave & convex space theory answers that as those that read my posts know. It is Doppler information that gave me the idea to form a theory to explain this,and why the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate Well you all know I don't like to brag(oh ya) my space curving theory has been very well excepted(good email),and I think Double-A likes it too. Bert |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...
in message ... We know the space between galaxies is expanding,and yet Andromeda are closest galaxy is moving towards us. Well my concave & convex space theory answers that as those that read my posts know. It is Doppler information that gave me the idea to form a theory to explain this,and why the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate Well you all know I don't like to brag(oh ya) my space curving theory has been very well excepted(good email),and I think Double-A likes it too. Bert Bert, if we were to take a Doppler/Fizeau between Earth and Sun, it would come up "blue". So my own thought is that either our Milky Way galaxy is going around and around the Andromeda, OR both the MW and the Androm. are revolving around a common barycenter. Since the Pinwheel, aka Triangulum is also a fairly large spiral galaxy and pretty near to the Andromeda galaxy, it too is probably involved. And all three galaxies are orbiting a common center of gravity here in the Local Group. This would account for the blue shift of Andromeda, which might someday turn red depending upon our actual relative position in our orbit around the MW center. What do you think? happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
Painius I know Adromeda's spin is in our line of view. One side has
light coming from stars moving towards us(blue),and the other side moving away(red) and I really don't know how astronomers measure that distance getting smaller and smaller,until in about 2 million years we will emerge with Adronema. Stars will not collide,but both have black hole cores,and that might be tricky. It might be the reason for gamma ray burst that are fairly frequent Bert |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
Our solar system rotates center of black hole of our milky way in circle. We
will be away from stars on half of the orbit and will be toward to stars on another half of the orbit. Some stars may move away from us but we may move toward them in the orbit. "G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message ... Painius I know Adromeda's spin is in our line of view. One side has light coming from stars moving towards us(blue),and the other side moving away(red) and I really don't know how astronomers measure that distance getting smaller and smaller,until in about 2 million years we will emerge with Adronema. Stars will not collide,but both have black hole cores,and that might be tricky. It might be the reason for gamma ray burst that are fairly frequent Bert |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
Uno wrote:
Our solar system rotates center of black hole of our milky way in circle. We will be away from stars on half of the orbit and will be toward to stars on another half of the orbit. Some stars may move away from us but we may move toward them in the orbit. "G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message ... Painius I know Adromeda's spin is in our line of view. One side has light coming from stars moving towards us(blue),and the other side moving away(red) and I really don't know how astronomers measure that distance getting smaller and smaller,until in about 2 million years we will emerge with Adronema. Stars will not collide,but both have black hole cores,and that might be tricky. It might be the reason for gamma ray burst that are fairly frequent Bert What I want to know is; If the universe is "ever expanding" then that would have to imply that there was a beginning. No? If there was a beginning, then what was / is it before the beginning? I on the other hand think is a circle. No beginning, no ending, just a continuous circle? Straighten me out. -- Zyp |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
... Painius I know Adromeda's spin is in our line of view. One side has light coming from stars moving towards us(blue),and the other side moving away(red) and I really don't know how astronomers measure that distance getting smaller and smaller,until in about 2 million years we will emerge with Adronema. Stars will not collide,but both have black hole cores,and that might be tricky. It might be the reason for gamma ray burst that are fairly frequent Bert Bert, Bert, Bert, Bert, Bert! Can't you see just how almost impossible this is? You cannot automatically *assume* that our galaxies will merge just based on the blue shift! The blue shift ONLY gives you the... radial direction of movement, that is the direction in a straight line between our galaxies. And this is where everybody seems to leave it. What about the... LATERAL (side-to-side) direction of movement? Our science and technology is not yet to the point where we can measure even a slight movement of the Andromeda galaxy from side-to-side at that great distance. So nobody really knows which direction Andromeda is actually moving, just that it is coming in our GENERAL direction. It will most likely miss us completely by millions and millions of light years! And there's no way of telling. But the chances of Andromeda heading in our specific direction, straight toward us, are so close to ZERO that they may as well *be* zero! It seems more likely that, as all the galaxies of our Local Group head in the general direction of the center of the Virgo supercluster, (that's what the astronomers say, anyhow. Personally I think that our Local Group is just revolving around the center of Virgo.) the Local Group of galaxies are all going around a common center of gravity, slowly spinning around each other as together they slowly spin around the center of the supercluster. happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
"Zyp" wrote in message
... Uno wrote: Our solar system rotates center of black hole of our milky way in circle. We will be away from stars on half of the orbit and will be toward to stars on another half of the orbit. Some stars may move away from us but we may move toward them in the orbit. "G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message ... Painius I know Adromeda's spin is in our line of view. One side has light coming from stars moving towards us(blue),and the other side moving away(red) and I really don't know how astronomers measure that distance getting smaller and smaller,until in about 2 million years we will emerge with Adronema. Stars will not collide,but both have black hole cores,and that might be tricky. It might be the reason for gamma ray burst that are fairly frequent Bert What I want to know is; If the universe is "ever expanding" then that would have to imply that there was a beginning. No? If there was a beginning, then what was / is it before the beginning? I on the other hand think is a circle. No beginning, no ending, just a continuous circle? Straighten me out. -- Zyp Well, Zyp, first off the FAQ is a good place for you to start. It's fascinating reading!... http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html Next, here in alt.astronomy, where many posters try to make sense of existing science theories and who like to consider the many possibilities of "cutting edge" science, we are more interested in hearing people's ideas than in trying to "straighten them out". So when you say "a circle", what do you think is on the outside (and the inside) of this circle? happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
Painius Nice post by you. Its thoughtful,and I agree with it. Its the
imperial thinkers that tell me that our Milky way and Andromeda are coming together. Like you I still feel they have to show measurements proving this. Go figure Bert |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
Uno The shape of the universe is negatively curved(like a saddle) and
that gives the shape I need to fit with my "Concave & Convex" theory Think about it Bert |
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Why is Andromeda and Milky Way Coming together?
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...
in message ... Painius Nice post by you. Its thoughtful,and I agree with it. Its the imperial thinkers that tell me that our Milky way and Andromeda are coming together. Like you I still feel they have to show measurements proving this. Go figure Bert Thank you, Bert. It's a trick, though. At least i find it easier to believe that astronomers are using it as a device to WOW people into thinking that such a collision will happen someday, rather than to believe that they haven't really considered the unmeasurable lateral movement of the far away Andromeda galaxy. Andromeda could actually be moving at an angle nearly 90 degrees to the straight line between the two galaxies. And this near-90-degree angle can be to the left, the right, up, down, and every direction in between. So as i said, the chances of Andromeda coming directly toward us is, for all intents and purposes, nil. happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com |
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