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#52
November 19th 03, 08:44 PM
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From Russia, Without Love
Rand Simberg wrote:
One man's "stupidity" is another man's opinion and political viewpoint. No one of any sense believes that "Big Oil feels it is allowed to do wherever it can pump oil in the name of "national security?" has anything to do with inalienable rights. I seem to remember that the phrase "certain inalienable rights" came after the phrase "all men"- not "all Americans" or "all Americans with any sense" or "all Americans that aren't stupid". Big oil helps keep corrupt governments in power in countries who have oil that they want, most people in the United States have some suspicion of that fact; the people in the countries with those governments have evidence of it on a daily basis. Such a comments betrays a tragic ignorance of what the phrase means. I'm all confused about that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness stuff too...maybe you could clue me in with a carefully worded short sentence. I suffer from a basic lack of education on the subject, having only a BA in History/Political Science. You fit in very well with the monolithic "we" of Fox's America. I'll take that as a compliment. Well, that makes a majority of one. Pat 
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#53
November 19th 03, 08:47 PM
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From Russia, Without Love
Rand Simberg wrote:
It wasn't ad hominem. It was sound advice. Well, it's sound of some sort- sounds sorta like the sound of snootiness to me. Pat
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#54
November 20th 03, 12:06 AM
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From Russia, Without Love
In article ,
h says... How much more of a response did that bit of stupidity merit? Perhaps it deserved even less. If it deserves no counter-analysis, then don't bother to respond. Then you'd be even more concise than Derek. :-) -- Kevin Willoughby lid Imagine that, a FROG ON-OFF switch, hardly the work for test pilots. -- Mike Collins
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#55
November 20th 03, 01:56 AM
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From Russia, Without Love
Kevin Willoughby wrote:
In article , says... How much more of a response did that bit of stupidity merit? Perhaps it deserved even less. If it deserves no counter-analysis, then don't bother to respond. Then you'd be even more concise than Derek. :-) D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion.
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#56
November 20th 03, 03:35 AM
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From Russia, Without Love
On or about Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:56:35 -0800 (PST), Derek Lyons made the sensational claim that:
Kevin Willoughby wrote: In article , says... How much more of a response did that bit of stupidity merit? Perhaps it deserved even less. If it deserves no counter-analysis, then don't bother to respond. Then you'd be even more concise than Derek. :-) D. That would be funny, but you have a not-quite-a-sig. -- This is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | This space is for rent It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | Inquire within if you No person, none, care | and it will reach me | Would like your ad here
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#57
November 20th 03, 04:58 AM
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From Russia, Without Love
Derek Lyons wrote:
Perhaps it deserved even less. If it deserves no counter-analysis, then don't bother to respond. Then you'd be even more concise than Derek. :-) D. Oh, I like that! P.
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#58
November 20th 03, 04:59 AM
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From Russia, Without Love
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:06:15 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
Kevin Willoughby made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: In article , says... How much more of a response did that bit of stupidity merit? Perhaps it deserved even less. If it deserves no counter-analysis, then don't bother to respond. Then you'd be even more concise than Derek. :-) Good point. -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers:
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#59
November 20th 03, 02:21 PM
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From Russia, Without Love
Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:03:43 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, : Pat Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow : in such a way as to indicate that: : One man's "stupidity" is another man's opinion and political viewpoint. : No one of any sense believes that "Big Oil feels it is : allowed to do wherever it can pump oil in the name of "national : security?" has anything to do with inalienable rights. Such a : comments betrays a tragic ignorance of what the phrase means. The "inalienable rights" question as connected with Big Oil's approach was rhetorical. The connection of Big Oil to both national security and the Bush adminstration is well documented. Bush's bullheaded attack of Iraq alone is also well documented. Maybe W felt empowered due to the Big Oil connection in question? This is not senseless analysis. : You fit in very well with the monolithic "we" of Fox's America. : I'll take that as a compliment. No doubt. Eric : -- : simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) : interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org : "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." : Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. : Here's my email address for autospammers:
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#60
November 21st 03, 05:51 AM
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From Russia, Without Love
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:21:48 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
(Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Rand Simberg ) wrote: : On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:03:43 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, : Pat Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow : in such a way as to indicate that: : One man's "stupidity" is another man's opinion and political viewpoint. : No one of any sense believes that "Big Oil feels it is : allowed to do wherever it can pump oil in the name of "national : security?" has anything to do with inalienable rights. Such a : comments betrays a tragic ignorance of what the phrase means. The "inalienable rights" question as connected with Big Oil's approach was rhetorical. Yes, and devoid of point. -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers:
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