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Old February 9th 21, 01:19 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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How old are you, 12?

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
On 1/12/21 9:32 AM, wrote:
Considering the vast number of likely planets in the infinite universe, it is logical to assume that intelligent life would have evolved on many of these. Yet we are never visited by any aliens, which perhaps is not surprising considering the vast mind bogling distances, but also interestingly the universe is also eerily silent so far. Not the slightest peep of radio transmissions etc. Makes me wounder why. Other thoughts ?

1) Life didn't evolve. It was created by God.
2) It's not feasible that we are the only people in the universe.
3) If you look at Revelation, the New Jerusalem that descends out of
Heaven is a cube. A perfect cube 1,200 miles on a side with 12
foundations, which may be like 12 floors on a large office building,
meaning each floor is around 100 miles high. It has doors only on the
sides (east, north, west, south), not the top or bottom, and three on
each side. The Bible describes our world being harvested at the end of
the age (a crop of man, so to speak).

If you use what God has given us on this Earth like a guide, and you
recognize that we have fields and farmers and crops that are harvested,
and they all come together in central grain storage areas, then it may
be that all of the solar systems out there are like ours, growing up a
crop of man. And there would be other kinds also which are not for
those like us.

It's a possibility.

-----
But regardless, aliens do not exist. They would be demons that are
deceiving people. The Bible is replete with lying demons. It does not
mention aliens one time, and is not part of our experience here on this
Earth. It makes for good Sci-Fi, but is not real.

I urge you all to go to the Bible for yourself and study these things.
God has given us scientific, reasoning minds for a reason. They are not
to abandon God in our thinking and consideration of things. We are to
include God and actually let Him lead us by what He has revealed.

The rest is pure speculation.

And I caution each of you: There is an absolute enemy of God at work in
this world. Evil spirits. Invisible to our eyes, but you can see them
at work in people, by ideas, by tempting certain people to be evil and
do things, and it's not just like Hitler evil, but also those who would
divorce their spouse, be deceitful, cause harm to others, be belittling,
etc. All of these things are contrary to God and God's teachings. They
are the influence of the enemy against us in this world. They push
ideas and thoughts and feelings and emotions into our flesh. The only
way to combat them is by turning to God, asking Jesus to forgive your
sin, being born again of the spirit (John 3), and then having the new
spirit nature which is then able to recognize and understand spiritual
things, dividing their lying spirit guidance from God's true spirit
guidance, which is present in the Bible throughout, but cannot be
understood in that way without first being forgiven for sins and gaining
your own spirit to discern them.

It all sounds complex and unreasonable at first, but go through it in steps:

1) Do you have sin (by God's standards)?
2) You need to be forgiven. Jesus was given us for that reason.
3) Ask Him to forgive you.
4) Watch your life rewrite itself from the inside out.

That's the power of the spirit at work in your life. It's why new
Christians change so much. But the enemy regroups and comes back, which
is why you must follow-through and stay in church and stay close to the
word your new spirit can understand.

God has so much to reveal to us. We see only as through a glass darkly
presently. But He has promised to show us everything on the other side.

If any of you have questions or would like help, please email me.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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Old February 9th 21, 05:24 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Rick C. Hodgin
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 05:19:53 -0800 (PST)
George Stone wrote:
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin
wrote:
On 1/12/21 9:32 AM, wrote:
Considering the vast number of likely planets in the infinite
universe, it is logical to assume that intelligent life would
have evolved on many of these. Yet we are never visited by any
aliens, which perhaps is not surprising considering the vast mind
bogling distances, but also interestingly the universe is also
eerily silent so far. Not the slightest peep of radio
transmissions etc. Makes me wounder why. Other thoughts ?

1) Life didn't evolve. It was created by God.
2) It's not feasible that we are the only people in the universe.
3) If you look at Revelation, the New Jerusalem that descends out
of Heaven is a cube. A perfect cube 1,200 miles on a side with 12
foundations, which may be like 12 floors on a large office
building, meaning each floor is around 100 miles high. It has doors
only on the sides (east, north, west, south), not the top or
bottom, and three on each side. The Bible describes our world being
harvested at the end of the age (a crop of man, so to speak).

If you use what God has given us on this Earth like a guide, and
you recognize that we have fields and farmers and crops that are
harvested, and they all come together in central grain storage
areas, then it may be that all of the solar systems out there are
like ours, growing up a crop of man. And there would be other kinds
also which are not for those like us.

It's a possibility.

-----
But regardless, aliens do not exist. They would be demons that are
deceiving people. The Bible is replete with lying demons. It does
not mention aliens one time, and is not part of our experience here
on this Earth. It makes for good Sci-Fi, but is not real.

I urge you all to go to the Bible for yourself and study these
things. God has given us scientific, reasoning minds for a reason.
They are not to abandon God in our thinking and consideration of
things. We are to include God and actually let Him lead us by what
He has revealed.

The rest is pure speculation.

And I caution each of you: There is an absolute enemy of God at
work in this world. Evil spirits. Invisible to our eyes, but you
can see them at work in people, by ideas, by tempting certain
people to be evil and do things, and it's not just like Hitler
evil, but also those who would divorce their spouse, be deceitful,
cause harm to others, be belittling, etc. All of these things are
contrary to God and God's teachings. They are the influence of the
enemy against us in this world. They push ideas and thoughts and
feelings and emotions into our flesh. The only way to combat them
is by turning to God, asking Jesus to forgive your sin, being born
again of the spirit (John 3), and then having the new spirit nature
which is then able to recognize and understand spiritual things,
dividing their lying spirit guidance from God's true spirit
guidance, which is present in the Bible throughout, but cannot be
understood in that way without first being forgiven for sins and
gaining your own spirit to discern them.

It all sounds complex and unreasonable at first, but go through it
in steps:

1) Do you have sin (by God's standards)?
2) You need to be forgiven. Jesus was given us for that reason.
3) Ask Him to forgive you.
4) Watch your life rewrite itself from the inside out.

That's the power of the spirit at work in your life. It's why new
Christians change so much. But the enemy regroups and comes back,
which is why you must follow-through and stay in church and stay
close to the word your new spirit can understand.

God has so much to reveal to us. We see only as through a glass
darkly presently. But He has promised to show us everything on the
other side.

If any of you have questions or would like help, please email me.


How old are you, 12?


51. I came to faith in Christ from atheism in 2004. I wasn't
expecting to, by the way. I wanted to know the truth though. I wanted
to know if what the Bible said was true, so I set my sights on reading
about it, learning about it, to come to a true understanding of what it
said at face value, so I could then discount it on authority, being
able to prove it was wrong.

When I set my sights on truly knowing the truth, and pressed in, Jesus
came to meet me where I was (in my pursuit of truth) and saved me.

It happened before I knew what happened, by the way. It took me weeks
before I could accept it. But the change is real. The new spirit
nature + flesh is different than the flesh-only. You can know things
and understand things differently as spirit + flesh than you can
flesh-only.

I don't write these things from a place of lunacy or trying to mock
this group of make fun of the people here. I've come to know there
really is a God, and that His name is Jesus. He really does save
people from sin, and when He does that new changed life is changed from
the inside. A complete re-wiring.

If you have sin ask Jesus to forgive you and see your life change. And
like you never knew was possible, because to the flesh-only it wasn't
possible. It requires the new spirit nature to experience it.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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Old February 9th 21, 06:30 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 05:19:53 -0800 (PST), George Stone wrote:
How old are you, 12?
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
If you use what God


William Franklin Graham, Jr. was born to William Franklin & Morrow Coffey-
Graham, in downstairs bedroom of the white-clapboard house on their dairy
farm (now parking lot 4601 Park Road, 80W50:58,35N10:07) four miles south
of Charlotte North Carolina, Thursday November 7, 1918 3:30 PM EST(AA/BC).

"President Richard Nixon, one of Billy's confidants and golf
buddies, flew down to Charlotte just to dedicate the monument
in 1971 on "Billy Graham Day." The large bronze plaque features
a portrait of Billy's serious face and an extensive quote, signed
by Nixon, which calls him "truly a man of God" and "one of the
giants of our time. At the dedication, local papers reported that
the Secret Service kept away any young men with long hair."
--excerpt from https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/66645

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Old February 9th 21, 07:02 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Rick C. Hodgin
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 19:30:35 +0100 (CET)
D J@M wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 05:19:53 -0800 (PST), George Stone
wrote:
How old are you, 12?
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin
wrote:
If you use what God


William Franklin Graham, Jr. was born to William Franklin & Morrow
Coffey- Graham, in downstairs bedroom of the white-clapboard house on
their dairy farm (now parking lot 4601 Park Road, 80W50:58,35N10:07)
four miles south of Charlotte North Carolina, Thursday November 7,
1918 3:30 PM EST(AA/BC).

"President Richard Nixon, one of Billy's confidants and golf
buddies, flew down to Charlotte just to dedicate the monument
in 1971 on "Billy Graham Day." The large bronze plaque features
a portrait of Billy's serious face and an extensive quote, signed
by Nixon, which calls him "truly a man of God" and "one of the
giants of our time. At the dedication, local papers reported that
the Secret Service kept away any young men with long hair."


Here's how this works: Jesus really does save people. He really does
forgive sin. The enemy of God (Satan, all his demon imps that roam
around this world) know this. They can't change it, but what they can
do is make it seem undesirable.

So, Satan puts in a great deal of effort to making things related to
religion, which isn't really "religion" in the case of Christianity,
but rather it is the salvation that comes through Jesus Christ yielding
a new spirit nature that is separate from the flesh-only nature (which
is why born again Christians change so much right after being saved),
Satan puts in effort to make those things look bad. He entices people
in sin to do bad things in the name of religion, or the name of Jesus.

He entices people to make Jesus and religion in general seem foolish.

He does this because the power of Jesus is unstoppable for those who
have been saved. Death no longer has hold of them because their sin
was forgiven. Their true nature is manifested in part (the presence of
the Holy Spirit), something called an "earnest payment" of the coming
future full revelation once we leave this world and are no longer bound
by the physical limitations here.

I would ask you to go and speak to born again Christians. You'll know
them by their testimony and story. They'll tell you about their
struggles, about the battles they face against that enemy, but they'll
also tell you that it's real, and that salvation has come to them.

There are lots of videos on YouTube about being born again. But the
enemy is also there too. So say a prayer before you go seeking and ask
God Himself to guide you to the true stories.

For all who will be saved, God knows who you are and He will personally
lead you to these things which are part of your journey to salvation.

Peace.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

PS -- And if you have any questions about Christianity, feel free to
email me. I promise you I'll teach you accurately what the Bible says,
pointing you to scripture and verse so you can read for yourself, and
see for yourself with your own eyes and mind and thinking if those
things you inquire about are answered correctly in that way.

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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:02:12 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
Here's how this works


"filioli novissima hora est et sicut
young children, the last time to be. and just as

audistis quia antichristus venit
you are audient because antichrist will come,

nunc antichristi multi facti sunt
even now antichrists multitudinous in fact to be,

unde scimus quoniam novissima hora est"
whence we are sciential because the last time it is.

--1 John 2:18, editio Vulgata

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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:00:53 +0100 (CET)
D J@M wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:02:12 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin"
wrote:
Here's how this works


[snip Latin translation]


The original language of the New Testament was written in Greek. We
have great tools to look at the translations from their original words,
as was taken from the majority texts used in creating the KJV. 5,000
back then (early 1600s), and more than 30,000 now.

See biblehub.com and look at the Greek and Hebrew links.

--1 John 2:18, editio Vulgata


1 John 2:18 KJV
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have
heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there
many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last
time.

1 John 2:18 NIV
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have
heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many
antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the
last hour.

Original Greek: https://biblehub.com/text/1_john/2-18.htm
Lexicon: https://biblehub.com/lexicon/1_john/2-18.htm

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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Old February 9th 21, 08:42 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 15:25:05 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:00:53 +0100 (CET)
[snip Latin translation]


"Dominus reget me et nihil mihi deerit
the Dominant one he will guide me, and nothing I will be lacking.

in loco pascuae ibi me conlocavit
into the locality of grazing pastures thereupon myself reposing

super aquam refectionis educavit me animam meam
above the water of refreshment to educate me, the anima of mine

convertit deduxit me super semitas iustitiae propter
converting, escorting me over the paths of justice on account of

nomen suum nam et si ambulavero in medio umbrae
the name of him. for also if I ambulate into the midst of the umbra

mortis non timebo mala quoniam tu
of mortality, not will I be timid of maladies, seeing that you

mecum es virga tua et baculus tuus ipsa
with me to be. the rod of yours and the staff of yours these in fact

me consolata sunt parasti in conspectu meo mensam
myself do console. to be preparing in view of me a table

adversus eos qui tribulant me inpinguasti in oleo caput
adverse to them which tribulate me, anointing in oil the head

meum et calix meus inebrians quam praeclarus est
of me, and the cup of mine is inebriating. how very clear to be,

et misericordia tua subsequitur me omnibus
and mercy yours follows closely after me the whole of all

diebus vitae meae et ut inhabitem in domo
the days of the life of me, and to inhabiting in the domicil of

Domini in longitudinem dierum"
the Dominant one into the longitude of daylight.

--psalmus David 22:1-6, editio Vulgata 405 anno Domini

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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 15:25:05 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:00:53 +0100 (CET)
[snip Latin translation]


PS the freeware On-Line Bible works off-line and includes numerous
bible versions. The Vulgate is my personal favorite translation of
the original texts. Jerome was very much fluent in those languages.

http://www.onlinebible.net/

"AKJV - American King James Version Bible.
AV - 1769 King James Authorized Version Bible.
AVRLE - 1769 King James Authorized Version Bible (KJV) Red Letter Edition.
APOCRYPHA - The 1769 Apocrypha by Oxford Press.
ASV - 1901 American Standard Version.
BBE - The Bible in Basic English 1965 Edition.
BHC - Biblical Hebrew Consonantal Text.
BHCM - Biblical Hebrew Consonantal Morphological Text.
BYZ - 1991 Byzantine Majority Greek Text.
BYZ Classic - 1991 Byzantine Majority Greek Text (Classic Strongs Numbers)
Darby - A literal translation of the Old Testament (1890) and the New Testament (1884) by John Nelson Darby.
Darby (French) - La Bible Darby - 1991 - VF.
Diaglot - 1865 Diaglot NT.
Douay - 1899 Douay Rheims American Version.
Douay APC - The 1899 Douay Rheims Apocrypha.
EMTV - English Majority Text Version of the Holy Bible by Paul W. Esposito, Stauros Ministries.
ERV - 1885 English Revised Version.
GWV - GOD'S WORD Translation.
IGNT - Interlinear Greek New Testament.
KJ21 - 21st Century King James Version.
LEB - The Lexham English Bible from Logos Bible Software.
Leeser - 1853 Leeser Old Testament.
Literal - A Literal Translation Of the Bible Keyed To Enhanced Strong's Numbers (Genesis - Josuha).
Living Oracles - Living Oracles Translation by George Campbell, James Macknight, and Philip Doddridge.
LSG - La Bible Louis Segond 1910 avec Strong.
LXX - Greek Septuagint Version.
LXXAPC - Greek Septuagint Apocrypha 270 BC.
NHEB - New Heart English Bible.
Noyes - 1869 Noyes Translation (Job - Re).
NTAPC - New Testament Apocrypha, William Hone 1820.
Pe****ta - 1905 Syriac Pe****ta New Testament.
RAPC - Revised Apocrypha.
Revised Webster - Revised 1833 Webster Bible. Edited by Larry Pierce.
1602PS (Spanish) - Valera 1602 Purificada con números de Strong
RV09 (Spanish) - 1909 Spanish RV Bible.
RV1865 (Spanish) - 1885 Spanish RV Bible.
RV2000 (Spanish) - 2000 Spanish Reina Valera.
RVA89 (Spanish) - 1989 Reina-Valera Actulizada (Spanish Bible).
SEV (Spanish) - Las 1569 Sagradas Escrituras Version Antigua. Revised in 1999.
Tischendorf - 1872 Tischendorf Greek NT.
Textus Receptus - 1550 Stephens Textus Receptus, 1894 Scrivener Textus Receptus.
TR Classic - 1550 Textus Receptus Text (Classic Strongs Numbers).
Vulgate - Jerome's 405 A.D., Latin Vulgate.
Vulgate Apocrypha - Jerome's 405 A.D., Latin Vulgate Apocrypha.
WEB - The World English Bible.
Webster - Webster Bible by Noah Webster LL.D. 1833.
Weymouth - Weymouth New Testament.
Westcott-Hort - 1881 Westcott-Hort Greek Text.
WH Classic - 1881 Westcott-Hort Greek Text (Classic Strongs Numbers).
Williams - 1936 Williams New Testament.
WNT - Wuest New Testament: An Expanded Translation.
Young - Young's Literal Translation of the Holy Bible by J.N. Young 1862."

 




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