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EINSTEIN'S THEORY: NOT EVEN ABSURD
The following quotations show that the implications of Einstein's
theory are not just absurd. Rather, they bear all the characteristics of statements like "The greenness of the crocodile exceeds its length": http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teachi...ity/index.html John Norton: "Relativity theory tells us that a moving clock is slowed down and a moving rod is shrunk in the direction of its motion. If I am an inertial observer, I will find the effect to come about for the clocks and rods of a spaceship moving past at rapid speed. But if that spaceship is moving inertially, then, by the principle of relativity, the spaceship's observer must find the same thing for my clocks and rods. Relative to that observer, my clocks and rods move past at great speed. So that observer would find my clocks to be slowed and my rods to be shrunk in the direction of my motion. Each finds the other's clocks slowed and rods shrunk. How can both be possible? Is there an inconsistency in the theory? If I am bigger than you, then you must be smaller than me. You cannot also be bigger than me. That's the problem. that each finds the other's clocks slowed and rods shrunk is troubling. But is it a real paradox in the sense of there being a logical contradiction? If I walk away from you, simple perspective effects make it look to each of us that the other is getting smaller. I judge you to grow smaller; and you judge me to grow smaller. No one should think that this is a paradox. That perspectival effect should not worry anyone. The car in the garage problem is an attempt to show that the relativistic effects are more serious than this simple perspectival effect. There is, it tries to show, a real contradiction; and we should not tolerate contradictions in a physical theory. (...) The car can only be said to have been fully enclosed in the garage if both doors were shut at the same time. There is no observer independent fact of the matter as to timing of these events. Therefore there is no observer independent fact as to whether the car was ever fully enclosed in the garage." http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn. (...) If it does not explode under the strain and it is sufficiently elastic it will come to rest and start to spring back to its natural shape but since it is too big for the barn the other end is now going to crash into the back door and the rod will be trapped IN A COMPRESSED STATE inside the barn." http://www.quebecscience.qc.ca/Revolutions Stéphane Durand: "Ainsi, une fusée de 100 m passant à toute vitesse dans un tunnel de 60 m pourrait être entièrement contenue dans ce tunnel pendant une fraction de seconde, durant laquelle il serait possible de fermer des portes aux deux bouts! La fusée est donc réellement plus courte. Pourtant, il n'y a PAS DE COMPRESSION matérielle ou physique de l'engin." http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu.../bugrivet.html "The bug-rivet paradox is a variation on the twin paradox and is similar to the pole-barn paradox.....The end of the rivet hits the bottom of the hole before the head of the rivet hits the wall. So it looks like the bug is squashed.....All this is nonsense from the bug's point of view. The rivet head hits the wall when the rivet end is just 0.35 cm down in the hole! The rivet doesn't get close to the bug....The paradox is not resolved." http://math.ucr.edu/~jdp/Relativity/Bug_Rivet.html John de Pillis Professor of Mathematics: "In fact, special relativity requires that after collision, the rivet shank length increases beyond its at-rest length d." Pentcho Valev |
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On Jan 28, 1:38*pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
The following quotations show that the implications of Einstein's theory are not just absurd. Rather, they bear all the characteristics of statements like "The greenness of the crocodile exceeds its length": http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teachi...s/Reciprocity/... John Norton: "Relativity theory tells us that a moving clock is slowed down and a moving rod is shrunk in the direction of its motion. If I am an inertial observer, I will find the effect to come about for the clocks and rods of a spaceship moving past at rapid speed. But if that spaceship is moving inertially, then, by the principle of relativity, the spaceship's observer must find the same thing for my clocks and rods. Relative to that observer, my clocks and rods move past at great speed. So that observer would find my clocks to be slowed and my rods to be shrunk in the direction of my motion. Each finds the other's clocks slowed and rods shrunk. How can both be possible? Is there an inconsistency in the theory? If I am bigger than you, then you must be smaller than me. You cannot also be bigger than me. That's the problem. that each finds the other's clocks slowed and rods shrunk is troubling. But is it a real paradox in the sense of there being a logical contradiction? If I walk away from you, simple perspective effects make it look to each of us that the other is getting smaller. I judge you to grow smaller; and you judge me to grow smaller. No one should think that this is a paradox. That perspectival effect should not worry anyone. The car in the garage problem is an attempt to show that the relativistic effects are more serious than this simple perspectival effect. There is, it tries to show, a real contradiction; and we should not tolerate contradictions in a physical theory. (...) The car can only be said to have been fully enclosed in the garage if both doors were shut at the same time. There is no observer independent fact of the matter as to timing of these events. Therefore there is no observer independent fact as to whether the car was ever fully enclosed in the garage." http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn. (...) If it does not explode under the strain and it is sufficiently elastic it will come to rest and start to spring back to its natural shape but since it is too big for the barn the other end is now going to crash into the back door and the rod will be trapped IN A COMPRESSED STATE inside the barn." http://www.quebecscience.qc.ca/Revolutions Stéphane Durand: "Ainsi, une fusée de 100 m passant à toute vitesse dans un tunnel de 60 m pourrait être entièrement contenue dans ce tunnel pendant une fraction de seconde, durant laquelle il serait possible de fermer des portes aux deux bouts! La fusée est donc réellement plus courte. Pourtant, il n'y a PAS DE COMPRESSION matérielle ou physique de l'engin." http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu.../bugrivet.html "The bug-rivet paradox is a variation on the twin paradox and is similar to the pole-barn paradox.....The end of the rivet hits the bottom of the hole before the head of the rivet hits the wall. So it looks like the bug is squashed.....All this is nonsense from the bug's point of view. The rivet head hits the wall when the rivet end is just 0.35 cm down in the hole! The rivet doesn't get close to the bug....The paradox is not resolved." http://math.ucr.edu/~jdp/Relativity/Bug_Rivet.html John de Pillis Professor of Mathematics: "In fact, special relativity requires that after collision, the rivet shank length increases beyond its at-rest length d." Pentcho Valev Idiot |
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Einsteiniana's mavericks: Special relativity's "epistemological and
ontological assumptions are now seen to be questionable, unjustified, false, perhaps even illogical": http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Sim.../dp/0415701740 Einstein, Relativity and Absolute Simultaneity (Routledge Studies in Contemporary Philosophy): "Unfortunately for Einstein's Special Theory, however, its epistemological and ontological assumptions are now seen to be questionable, unjustified, false, perhaps even illogical. (...) In fact, there is a theory that is not merely observationally equivalent to the Special Theory, but also observationally superior to it, namely Lorentzian or neo-Lorentzian theory." Which one of special relativity's two postulates is "questionable, unjustified, false, perhaps even illogical"? This is a grand secret between Einsteiniana's mavericks but the reference to an "observationally superior" ether theory suggests that the principle of relativity is under attack. And of all the Einsteinians all over the world not one could think of a reason why brothers mavericks should not attack the principle of relativity and revitalize the ether theory. What is absolutely forbidden in Einsteiniana is to attack the principle of constancy of the speed of light: http://hps.elte.hu/PIRT.Budapest/ Mathematics, Physics and Philosophy In the Interpretations of Relativity Theory, Budapest 4-6 September 2009: "The objective of the conference is to discuss the mathematical, physical and philosophical elements in the physical interpretations of Relativity Theory (PIRT); the physical and philosophical arguments and commitments shaping those interpretations and the various applications of the theory, especially in relativistic cosmology and relativistic quantum theory. The organizing committee is open for discussion of recent advances in investigations of the mathematical, logical and conceptual structure of Relativity Theory, as well as for analysis of the cultural, ideological and philosophical factors that have roles in its evolution and in the development of the modern physical world view determined to a considerable extent by that theory. The conference intends to review the fruitfulness of orthodox Relativity, as developed from the Einstein-Minkowski formulation, and to suggest how history and philosophy of science clarify the relationship between the accepted relativistic formal structure and the various physical interpretations associated with it. While the organizing committee encourages critical investigations and welcomes both Einsteinian and non-Einsteinian (Lorentzian, etc.) approaches, including the recently proposed ether- type theories, it is assumed that the received formal structure of the theory is valid and anti-relativistic papers will not be accepted." Pentcho Valev |
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On Jan 29, 5:30*pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Einsteiniana's mavericks: Special relativity's "epistemological and ontological assumptions are now seen to be questionable, unjustified, false, perhaps even illogical": http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Sim...-Contemporary-... Einstein, Relativity and Absolute Simultaneity (Routledge Studies in Contemporary Philosophy): "Unfortunately for Einstein's Special Theory, however, its epistemological and ontological assumptions are now seen to be questionable, unjustified, false, perhaps even illogical. (...) In fact, there is a theory that is not merely observationally equivalent to the Special Theory, but also observationally superior to it, namely Lorentzian or neo-Lorentzian theory." Which one of special relativity's two postulates is "questionable, unjustified, false, perhaps even illogical"? This is a grand secret between Einsteiniana's mavericks but the reference to an "observationally superior" ether theory suggests that the principle of relativity is under attack. And of all the Einsteinians all over the world not one could think of a reason why brothers mavericks should not attack the principle of relativity and revitalize the ether theory. What is absolutely forbidden in Einsteiniana is to attack the principle of constancy of the speed of light: http://hps.elte.hu/PIRT.Budapest/ Mathematics, Physics and Philosophy In the Interpretations of Relativity Theory, Budapest 4-6 September 2009: "The objective of the conference is to discuss the mathematical, physical and philosophical elements in the physical interpretations of Relativity Theory (PIRT); the physical and philosophical arguments and commitments shaping those interpretations and the various applications of the theory, especially in relativistic cosmology and relativistic quantum theory. The organizing committee is open for discussion of recent advances in investigations of the mathematical, logical and conceptual structure of Relativity Theory, as well as for analysis of the cultural, ideological and philosophical factors that have roles in its evolution and in the development of the modern physical world view determined to a considerable extent by that theory. The conference intends to review the fruitfulness of orthodox Relativity, as developed from the Einstein-Minkowski formulation, and to suggest how history and philosophy of science clarify the relationship between the accepted relativistic formal structure and the various physical interpretations associated with it. While the organizing committee encourages critical investigations and welcomes both Einsteinian and non-Einsteinian (Lorentzian, etc.) approaches, including the recently proposed ether- type theories, it is assumed that the received formal structure of the theory is valid and anti-relativistic papers will not be accepted." Pentcho Valev Idiot |
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What can a reasonable person do if the officially accepted theory
claims that the greenness of the crocodile exceeds its length? Should one try to prove that the length exceeds the greenness? And if the officially accepted theory claims that both the greenness exceeds the length and the length exceeds the greenness? According to Einstein's theory, the youthfulness of the travelling twin both has nothing to do with the acceleration she has suffered and is entirely caused by the acceleration she has suffered: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~djmorin/book.html Introduction to Classical Mechanics With Problems and Solutions, David Morin, Cambridge University Press, Chapter 11, p. 14: "Example (Twin paradox): Twin A stays on the earth, while twin B flies quickly to a distant star and back. Show that B is younger than A when they meet up again. (...) For the entire outward and return parts of the trip, B does observe A's clock running slow, but enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older. Note, however, that a discussion of acceleration is not required to quantitatively understand the paradox, as Problem 11.2 shows." http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/...tivity2010.pdf Gary W. Gibbons FRS: "In other words, by simply staying at home Jack has aged relative to Jill. There is no paradox because the lives of the twins are not strictly symmetrical. This might lead one to suspect that the accelerations suffered by Jill might be responsible for the effect. However this is simply not plausible because using identical accelerating phases of her trip, she could have travelled twice as far. This would give twice the amount of time gained." http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/con...ent=a909857880 Peter Hayes "The Ideology of Relativity: The Case of the Clock Paradox" : Social Epistemology, Volume 23, Issue 1 January 2009, pages 57-78: Albert Einstein wrote in 1911: "The [travelling] clock runs slower if it is in uniform motion, but if it undergoes a change of direction as a result of a jolt, then the theory of relativity does not tell us what happens. The sudden change of direction might produce a sudden change in the position of the hands of the clock. However, the longer the clock is moving rectilinearly and uniformly with a given speed in a forward motion, i.e., the larger the dimensions of the polygon, the smaller must be the effect of such a hypothetical sudden change." http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teachi...yon/index.html John Norton: "Then, at the end of the outward leg, the traveler abruptly changes motion, accelerating sharply to adopt a new inertial motion directed back to earth. What comes now is the key part of the analysis. The effect of the change of motion is to alter completely the traveler's judgment of simultaneity. The traveler's hypersurfaces of simultaneity now flip up dramatically. Moments after the turn- around, when the travelers clock reads just after 2 days, the traveler will judge the stay-at-home twin's clock to read just after 7 days. That is, the traveler will judge the stay-at-home twin's clock to have jumped suddenly from reading 1 day to reading 7 days. This huge jump puts the stay-at-home twin's clock so far ahead of the traveler's that it is now possible for the stay-at-home twin's clock to be ahead of the travelers when they reunite." http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dialog...f_rela tivity Dialog about Objections against the Theory of Relativity (1918), by Albert Einstein: "...according to the special theory of relativity the coordinate systems K and K' are by no means equivalent systems. Indeed this theory asserts only the equivalence of all Galilean (unaccelerated) coordinate systems, that is, coordinate systems relative to which sufficiently isolated, material points move in straight lines and uniformly. K is such a coordinate system, but not the system K', that is accelerated from time to time. Therefore, from the result that after the motion to and fro the clock U2 is running behind U1, no contradiction can be constructed against the principles of the theory. (...) During the partial processes 2 and 4 the clock U1, going at a velocity v, runs indeed at a slower pace than the resting clock U2. However, this is more than compensated by a faster pace of U1 during partial process 3. According to the general theory of relativity, a clock will go faster the higher the gravitational potential of the location where it is located, and during partial process 3 U2 happens to be located at a higher gravitational potential than U1. The calculation shows that this speeding ahead constitutes exactly twice as much as the lagging behind during the partial processes 2 and 4. This consideration completely clears up the paradox that you brought up." Clearly Einstein's theory is not just absurd. It is much more than that. Pentcho Valev |
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Fermilab physicist, Dr. Ricardo Eusebi, shows how the speed of light
(relative to the observer) varies with the speed of the observer and explains that the speed of light (relative to the observer) does not vary with the speed of the observer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EVzUyE2oD1w "Fermilab physicist, Dr. Ricardo Eusebi, discusses the Doppler effect and gravitational lensing in respect to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity" Clearly Einstein's theory is not just absurd. It is much more than that. Pentcho Valev |
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On Jan 31, 9:53*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Fermilab physicist, Dr. Ricardo Eusebi, shows how the speed of light (relative to the observer) varies with the speed of the observer and explains that the speed of light (relative to the observer) does not vary with the speed of the observer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EVzUyE2oD1w "Fermilab physicist, Dr. Ricardo Eusebi, discusses the Doppler effect and gravitational lensing in respect to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity" Clearly Einstein's theory is not just absurd. It is much more than that. Pentcho Valev Idiot |
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ... Fermilab physicist, Dr. Ricardo Eusebi, shows how the speed of light (relative to the observer) varies with the speed of the observer and explains that the speed of light (relative to the observer) does not vary with the speed of the observer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EVzUyE2oD1w "Fermilab physicist, Dr. Ricardo Eusebi, discusses the Doppler effect and gravitational lensing in respect to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity" Perhaps if you were to supply exactly what he said that you didn't understand, I or somebody else could explain it to you? Clearly Einstein's theory is not just absurd. It is much more than that. Either that, or you simply don't understand it. I know which of these possiblities I would be betting on. Pentcho Valev |
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Einstein's theory is not just absurd. It is much more than that:
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Does-mc2-S.../dp/0306817586 Why Does E=mc2?: (And Why Should We Care?), Brian Cox, Jeff Forshaw, p. 236: "If the light falls in strict accord with the principle of equivalence, then, as it falls, its energy should increase by exactly the same fraction that it increases for any other thing we could imagine dropping. We need to know what happens to the light as it gains energy. In other words, what can Pound and Rebka expect to see at the bottom of their laboratory when the dropped light arrives? There is only one way for the light to increase its energy. We know that it cannot speed up, because it is already traveling at the universal speed limit, but it can increase its frequency." http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/hsr1...notes12_02.pdf Harvey Reall, University of Cambridge: "...light falls in the gravitational field in exactly the same way as a massive test particle." http://sethi.lamar.edu/bahrim-cristi...t-lens_PPT.pdf Dr. Cristian Bahrim: "If we accept the principle of equivalence, we must also accept that light falls in a gravitational field with the same acceleration as material bodies." http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9909014v1.pdf Steve Carlip: "I will then try to reconcile the results with the occasional (and not completely unreasonable) claim that "objects traveling at the speed of light fall with twice the acceleration of ordinary matter." (...) It is well known that the deflection of light is twice that predicted by Newtonian theory; in this sense, at least, light falls with twice the acceleration of ordinary "slow" matter." Pentcho Valev |
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On Feb 3, 6:50*pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Einstein's theory is not just absurd. It is much more than that: http://www.amazon.com/Why-Does-mc2-S.../dp/0306817586 Why Does E=mc2?: (And Why Should We Care?), Brian Cox, Jeff Forshaw, p. 236: "If the light falls in strict accord with the principle of equivalence, then, as it falls, its energy should increase by exactly the same fraction that it increases for any other thing we could imagine dropping. We need to know what happens to the light as it gains energy. In other words, what can Pound and Rebka expect to see at the bottom of their laboratory when the dropped light arrives? There is only one way for the light to increase its energy. We know that it cannot speed up, because it is already traveling at the universal speed limit, but it can increase its frequency." http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/hsr1...notes12_02.pdf Harvey Reall, University of Cambridge: "...light falls in the gravitational field in exactly the same way as a massive test particle." http://sethi.lamar.edu/bahrim-cristi.../4480-PROBLEMS... Dr. Cristian Bahrim: "If we accept the principle of equivalence, we must also accept that light falls in a gravitational field with the same acceleration as material bodies." http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9909014v1.pdf Steve Carlip: "I will then try to reconcile the results with the occasional (and not completely unreasonable) claim that "objects traveling at the speed of light fall with twice the acceleration of ordinary matter." (...) It is well known that the deflection of light is twice that predicted by Newtonian theory; in this sense, at least, light falls with twice the acceleration of ordinary "slow" matter." Pentcho Valev Idiot |
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