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I was watching the SpaceX launch of 10 more Iridium satellites yesterday
and they cut the live feed near the end of the 2nd stage's first burn, saying something about NOAA restrictions preventing them from continuing the broadcast. I was like WTF? As usual, Eric Berger came through with a story on this: NOAA VIDEO FOR YOU ? NOAA just prevented SpaceX from showing its rocket in orbit "SpaceX will be intentionally ending live video coverage of the 2nd stage." ERIC BERGER - 3/30/2018, 12:52 PM https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...-a-rocket-but- noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/ NOAA's response: http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/no...-broadcast-of- spacex-iridium-5-launch From above: The National and Commercial Space Program Act requires a commercial remote sensing license for companies having the capacity to take an image of Earth while on orbit. Now that launch companies are putting video cameras on stage 2 rockets that reach an on-orbit status, all such launches will be held to the requirements of the law and its conditions. SpaceX applied and received a license from NOAA that included conditions on their capability to live-stream from space. Conditions on Earth imaging to protect national security are common to all licenses for launches with on-orbit capabilities. This is bull**** on the face of it. There is no way that a wide field GoPro camera (the cameras SpaceX typically uses for this sort of thing) could ever have the resolution necessary to cause any "national securty" damage. It's curious that all previous Iridium launches were allowed to stream live through all 10 satellites being deployed. Me thinks that the Starman "incident" put a bug up some middle level NOAA manager's butt. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. |
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On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 11:01:44 AM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote:
I was watching the SpaceX launch of 10 more Iridium satellites yesterday and they cut the live feed near the end of the 2nd stage's first burn, saying something about NOAA restrictions preventing them from continuing the broadcast. I was like WTF? As usual, Eric Berger came through with a story on this: NOAA VIDEO FOR YOU ? NOAA just prevented SpaceX from showing its rocket in orbit "SpaceX will be intentionally ending live video coverage of the 2nd stage." ERIC BERGER - 3/30/2018, 12:52 PM https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...-a-rocket-but- noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/ NOAA's response: http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/no...-broadcast-of- spacex-iridium-5-launch From above: The National and Commercial Space Program Act requires a commercial remote sensing license for companies having the capacity to take an image of Earth while on orbit. Now that launch companies are putting video cameras on stage 2 rockets that reach an on-orbit status, all such launches will be held to the requirements of the law and its conditions. SpaceX applied and received a license from NOAA that included conditions on their capability to live-stream from space. Conditions on Earth imaging to protect national security are common to all licenses for launches with on-orbit capabilities. This is bull**** on the face of it. There is no way that a wide field GoPro camera (the cameras SpaceX typically uses for this sort of thing) could ever have the resolution necessary to cause any "national securty" damage. It's curious that all previous Iridium launches were allowed to stream live through all 10 satellites being deployed. Me thinks that the Starman "incident" put a bug up some middle level NOAA manager's butt. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. What was the Starman Incident? |
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On 3/31/2018 11:01 AM, Jeff Findley wrote:
I was watching the SpaceX launch of 10 more Iridium satellites yesterday and they cut the live feed near the end of the 2nd stage's first burn, saying something about NOAA restrictions preventing them from continuing the broadcast. I was like WTF? As usual, Eric Berger came through with a story on this: NOAA VIDEO FOR YOU ? NOAA just prevented SpaceX from showing its rocket in orbit "SpaceX will be intentionally ending live video coverage of the 2nd stage." ERIC BERGER - 3/30/2018, 12:52 PM https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...-a-rocket-but- noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/ NOAA's response: http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/no...-broadcast-of- spacex-iridium-5-launch What's interesting to me is what if that GoPro camera is on the satellite not the 2nd stage? Then seems like US restrictions might only apply when the carriage is still over US airspace? How can NOAA enforce regulations against foreign sat carriers that are already in orbit? You'd get "good" pictures until that last sat was ejected. Yes it's a US rocket being launched by a US corporation, but the satellite as often as not is non-US and an orbit by definition is outside US airspace. Seems like it then becomes treaty obligation time to me rather than US code. But agreed on the face of it, it is BS. But we've been through this territory before vis-v-vis ITAR and NASA's NTRS, which had to be swept. The law should be made more specific. But it will, as they say, require an act of Congress to fix unless it's purely an administrative regulation. Suprised it is NOAA rather than NASA or NRO that enforces this one. I guess because NOAA is part of the Dept. of Commerce? Dave |
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On 4/2/2018 3:22 PM, David Spain wrote:
Suprised it is NOAA rather than NASA or NRO that enforces this one. I guess because NOAA is part of the Dept. of Commerce? Can't resist this wonderful opportunity for the snide remark... "Isn't this issue a bit over the head of NOAA?" *ahem* Dave |
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In article , says...
On 3/31/2018 11:01 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: I was watching the SpaceX launch of 10 more Iridium satellites yesterday and they cut the live feed near the end of the 2nd stage's first burn, saying something about NOAA restrictions preventing them from continuing the broadcast. I was like WTF? As usual, Eric Berger came through with a story on this: NOAA VIDEO FOR YOU ? NOAA just prevented SpaceX from showing its rocket in orbit "SpaceX will be intentionally ending live video coverage of the 2nd stage." ERIC BERGER - 3/30/2018, 12:52 PM https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...-a-rocket-but- noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/ NOAA's response: http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/no...-broadcast-of- spacex-iridium-5-launch What's interesting to me is what if that GoPro camera is on the satellite not the 2nd stage? Then seems like US restrictions might only apply when the carriage is still over US airspace? How can NOAA enforce regulations against foreign sat carriers that are already in orbit? You'd get "good" pictures until that last sat was ejected. They can only enforce US laws against US corporations. In other words, any satellite owned and operated by a US company that has a camera on it that takes a picture of earth must apply for the proper earth observation permit. Yes it's a US rocket being launched by a US corporation, but the satellite as often as not is non-US and an orbit by definition is outside US airspace. Seems like it then becomes treaty obligation time to me rather than US code. The concept of "airspace" doesn't legally apply for satellites that are in earth orbit. The US deliberately set the precedent when we did NOT protest Sputnik overflying the US while in orbit. But agreed on the face of it, it is BS. But we've been through this territory before vis-v-vis ITAR and NASA's NTRS, which had to be swept. The law should be made more specific. But it will, as they say, require an act of Congress to fix unless it's purely an administrative regulation. Suprised it is NOAA rather than NASA or NRO that enforces this one. I guess because NOAA is part of the Dept. of Commerce? From what I understand, the rule dates back to the LANDSAT days. No doubt it was originally intended to make it harder for "startups" to get into the earth observation business, which is *big* business. The satellite views in all of those online maps were paid for. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. |
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David Spain wrote on Mon, 2 Apr 2018 15:22:08
-0400: On 3/31/2018 11:01 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: I was watching the SpaceX launch of 10 more Iridium satellites yesterday and they cut the live feed near the end of the 2nd stage's first burn, saying something about NOAA restrictions preventing them from continuing the broadcast. I was like WTF? As usual, Eric Berger came through with a story on this: NOAA VIDEO FOR YOU ? NOAA just prevented SpaceX from showing its rocket in orbit "SpaceX will be intentionally ending live video coverage of the 2nd stage." ERIC BERGER - 3/30/2018, 12:52 PM https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...-a-rocket-but- noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/ NOAA's response: http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/no...-broadcast-of- spacex-iridium-5-launch What's interesting to me is what if that GoPro camera is on the satellite not the 2nd stage? Then seems like US restrictions might only apply when the carriage is still over US airspace? How can NOAA enforce regulations against foreign sat carriers that are already in orbit? You'd get "good" pictures until that last sat was ejected. Yes it's a US rocket being launched by a US corporation, but the satellite as often as not is non-US and an orbit by definition is outside US airspace. Seems like it then becomes treaty obligation time to me rather than US code. If it's on a US launcher, US code applies. -- "It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point, somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me.... I am the law." -- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer |
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