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Non Newtonian Propulsion
We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept
of propulsion system. P26MR05 (evolution of SC2.12) is an innovative PNN (Propulsione Non Newtoniana) thruster capable of delivering thrust with very high accuracy and controllability. It is a propellantless UHF e.m. (no reaction mass or energy) system closed in a box We made a road show of this on ballistic pendulum , in May 3 2005 at Sheraton Hotel in Roma. There are two clips : http://www.asps.it/presentazione.wmv http://www.squilli.it/wpe1.mpg In Iuly 21 2005 Asps had been financed to perform new experimental developments. In the October 2005 we got a PNN system that has a thrust much bigger than P26MR05 This is showed in the two clips in www.asps.it/another.htm We can do better and reach the Asps aim : to superate by PNN the rocketry. Quo fata ferunt www.asps.it |
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asps wrote: We made a road show of this on ballistic pendulum , in May 3 2005 at Sheraton Hotel in Roma. Instead of hanging it on a pendulum, why don't you seal it and its power supply in a watertight spherical container, ballast it till it has neutral buoyancy, submerge it in a swimming pool (with nothing attached to it) so that it is neither floating on the surface nor lying on the bottom, and see if it moves around. Not rotates or oscillates, but actually starts moving toward one wall of the swimming pool or rising or sinking. That would be impressive as to its ability to actually work as described. Pat |
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"asps" :
We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept of propulsion system. So that makes it 26 years of work and you still can not produce a prototype that will pass an honest test. 26 years and you can do a public demo where you have not preset all the conditions of the test first. 26 years of always asking for money before anyone can do any real testing on your hardware. 26 years of conning at it's very worse. Earl Colby Pottinger -- I make public email sent to me! Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets, OpenBeos, SerialTransfer 3.0, RAMDISK, BoatBuilding, DIY TabletPC. What happened to the time? http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp |
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Pat Flannery :
asps wrote: We made a road show of this on ballistic pendulum , in May 3 2005 at Sheraton Hotel in Roma. Instead of hanging it on a pendulum, why don't you seal it and its power supply in a watertight spherical container, ballast it till it has neutral buoyancy, submerge it in a swimming pool (with nothing attached to it) so that it is neither floating on the surface nor lying on the bottom, and see if it moves around. Not rotates or oscillates, but actually starts moving toward one wall of the swimming pool or rising or sinking. That would be impressive as to its ability to actually work as described. Personally, my prefered test, seal inside a metal box, hold the box up on all four corners on strings that when the box is at rest all strings are equal distance and parallel to each other. If there is any thrust all the string will deflect the same amount. ASPS claims that they have been working from 1979, in all thier so called tests not once have I seen they do an honest test that is meant to isolate thrust from oscillations. I smell major con artist. Earl Colby Pottinger -- I make public email sent to me! Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets, OpenBeos, SerialTransfer 3.0, RAMDISK, BoatBuilding, DIY TabletPC. What happened to the time? http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp |
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"Earl Colby Pottinger" ha scritto nel messaggio ... "asps" : We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept of propulsion system. So that makes it 26 years of work and you still can not produce a prototype that will pass an honest test. Uhf Pnn prototypes exist since about 5 years and they pass all the tests on a precision arm scale and on torsional pendulum too 26 years and you can do a public demo where you have not preset all the conditions of the test first. During our experiments PNN overcome several criticism said from physicists 26 years of always asking for money before anyone can do any real testing on your hardware. The money we got for the development of Pnn were for the fact that we aren't charlatans and the experiments speak for us 26 years of conning at it's very worse. In this year we got more performances of our PNN prototypes against the comic and orthodox ideas of several scientists Earl Colby Pottinger quo caeli tegunt E.Laureti -- I make public email sent to me! Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets, OpenBeos, SerialTransfer 3.0, RAMDISK, BoatBuilding, DIY TabletPC. What happened to the time? http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp |
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Earl Colby Pottinger wrote: We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept of propulsion system. So that makes it 26 years of work and you still can not produce a prototype that will pass an honest test. 26 years and you can do a public demo In a hotel, yet. That's not quite the Royal Society, is it? where you have not preset all the conditions of the test first. 26 years of always asking for money before anyone can do any real testing on your hardware. 26 years of conning at it's very worse. Can anyone say Dean Drive MK II? :-D Pat |
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Earl Colby Pottinger wrote: Personally, my prefered test, seal inside a metal box, hold the box up on all four corners on strings that when the box is at rest all strings are equal distance and parallel to each other. If there is any thrust all the string will deflect the same amount. ASPS claims that they have been working from 1979, in all thier so called tests not once have I seen they do an honest test that is meant to isolate thrust from oscillations. I smell major con artist. The real test would be to take it up to the ISS and see what it does while hanging in midair. Pat |
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asps wrote:
We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept of propulsion system. Interesting. Could you please provide us with some background theory? /steen |
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Please correct me I'm wrong, but if we are talking here about propulsion
that is expelling UHF (Ultra High Frequency) radio-waves, that this is just a type of photon propulsion and therefore Newtonian. asps wrote: We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept of propulsion system. P26MR05 (evolution of SC2.12) is an innovative PNN (Propulsione Non Newtoniana) thruster capable of delivering thrust with very high accuracy and controllability. It is a propellantless UHF e.m. (no reaction mass or energy) system closed in a box We made a road show of this on ballistic pendulum , in May 3 2005 at Sheraton Hotel in Roma. There are two clips : http://www.asps.it/presentazione.wmv http://www.squilli.it/wpe1.mpg In Iuly 21 2005 Asps had been financed to perform new experimental developments. In the October 2005 we got a PNN system that has a thrust much bigger than P26MR05 This is showed in the two clips in www.asps.it/another.htm We can do better and reach the Asps aim : to superate by PNN the rocketry. Quo fata ferunt www.asps.it |
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"asps" :
"Earl Colby Pottinger" ha scritto nel messaggio ... "asps" : We inform you ASPS (founded in 1979) has developed a new innovative concept of propulsion system. So that makes it 26 years of work and you still can not produce a prototype that will pass an honest test. Uhf Pnn prototypes exist since about 5 years and they pass all the tests on a precision arm scale and on torsional pendulum too Yes, a conman's friends. However, still no tests with systems that are not fooled by vibrations. 26 years and you can not do a public demo where you have not preset all the conditions of the test first. During our experiments PNN overcome several criticism said from physicists Name some! 26 years of always asking for money before anyone can do any real testing on your hardware. The money we got for the development of Pnn were for the fact that we aren't charlatans and the experiments speak for us Yes they do, you are running a con job. 26 years of conning at it's very worse. In this year we got more performances of our PNN prototypes against the comic and orthodox ideas of several scientists All unnamed I notice, and still not a single honest test in sight. I noticed thru the years that a number of low cost tests have been suggested by posters who have replied to your messages here. And in all those years you have never shown that you can pass any of them. Scales and pendulums are worthless in getting rid of vibration problems and have been used by every NNP con-artist in history. So why are you afraid to test your systems with other measurement systems, I wonder? Well, not really, I know you can not pass an honest test, that is why you try so hard to avoid admitting that you fail other honest tests.. Earl Colby Pottinger -- I make public email sent to me! Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets, OpenBeos, SerialTransfer 3.0, RAMDISK, BoatBuilding, DIY TabletPC. What happened to the time? http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp |
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