NASA's long-running 'Cover Story' Comes to an End!

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Thank God for the 'new' era. It cannot help but be better than
the last one...now!

to paraphrase LBJ - only if you wish to go to sleep to the light of a
Chinese Moon.

Val Kraut wrote:

to paraphrase LBJ - only if you wish to go to sleep to the light of a
Chinese Moon.

Well, he said "communist", and those are getting difficult to come by
outside of China (or even in it) these days.

Pat

Well, I'm not optimistic. This sounds almost as romantic as a science
fiction story to me.

The one salient fact about humans is there is no real reason to go out there
and explore. Nobody seems to know why we want to do it. Because its there,
as many say about mountains, but I think, much like the so called arts,
exploration is something humans need to do. I don't know why, and if its all
boiled down to money then nobody would invent anything unless it was
salable.

So, lets just say, we have evolved in the way we have, and are still doing
so. For whatever reason, we have succeeded by going to new places. We have
no idea if the strategy is still useful when applied to off planet, but at
the very least, lets remove the bean counting aspect and go do it.


I agree, it needs to be the world which does it. We really do not want to
create the divisive borders and territories we have here on earth again.
Maybe this is the reason we are driven, is it to get away from it all, or
to cooperate in a new society?

One thing to me is certain though. We need a better less energy wasteful and
dangerous way to get off planet. Maybe the physicists can actually find the
source of gravity and let us harness the force instead of fighting it.

Brian

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"Jonathan" wrote in message
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President Obama ends NASA's Moon missions.
Leaving the US manned space program in limbo.

I believe this decision signals the end of an significant
fifty year long era in space policy.

Unfortunately, the notion this Space-Era was about exploring, or
colonizing or various forms of pure research are the result
of looking at the US Space Program through nebula-colored glasses.
The 'Hank-ian' view, as in Tom.

Grow up please!

The manned space program is, and always has been, a military oriented
program. The civilian cover stories of the early rocket days became
institutionalized.

The finish line in the cold-war race with the Soviets was unabashedly
on the Moon. And it would be again, but this time a missile defense
race to the Moon with the Chinese. This decision brings hope that the
next fifty years will NOT be defined by the incredibly wasteful and
dangerous military spending spree between the two richest nations
of the world. A cold-war that helped generate a world full of
negative-sum games, or one ..horror.. after another.

Now we have an opportunity to not just change the focus of space policy.
But to entirely change the nature of superpower competition.
From military to economic, to positive-sum games.

The difference between positive and negative sum interactions
between the superpowers is nothing less that the difference
between ....Barbaric and Civilized.

Thank God this era is over!

Our space policy now has the opportunity to turn itself towards the
needs of the many, instead of the military. Such as creating a new
energy future.

Thank God for the 'new' era. It cannot help but be better than
the last one...now!


Jonathan


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"Jonathan" wrote in message
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The manned space program is, and always has been, a military oriented
program. The civilian cover stories of the early rocket days became
institutionalized.

This is absolutely false.

Jeff
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"Take heart amid the deepening gloom
that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
Lampoon

On Feb 4, 11:31*pm, "Val Kraut" wrote:
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Thank God for the 'new' era. It cannot help but be better than
the last one...now!

to paraphrase LBJ - only if you wish to go to sleep to the light of a
Chinese Moon.

If the Chinese want to go to the moon, then let them. What do
Americans own it? No more than we own the Earth.

On Feb 5, 4:38*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
Val Kraut wrote:
to paraphrase LBJ - only if you wish to go to sleep to the light of a
Chinese Moon.

Well, he said "communist", and those are getting difficult to come by
outside of China (or even in it) these days.

Pat

Paranoia is paranoia. They own too much of our debt and the Repubs
don't seen scared about that!

The question is not whether we explore or not - we always will.

The question is when.

What's the rush? After all, it is not like the moon and Mars are going
anywhere. Last time I checked, they have no plans to relocate or
disappear.

-Ramon

On Feb 5, 10:26*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Ramon F Herrera wrote:

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:The question is not whether we explore or not - we always will.
:
:The question is when.
:
:What's the rush? After all, it is not like the moon and Mars are going
:anywhere. Last time I checked, they have no plans to relocate or
:disappear.
:

And the answer becomes 'never', because 'later' is always good
enough...

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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
*man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
*all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --George Bernard Shaw

Scenario: Chris Columbus never persuaded Isabella to finance his trip.
Result from your reasoning: here we are, in the 21st. century and the
new continent remains to be discovered.

-Ramon

On Feb 5, 7:13�am, "Jeff Findley" wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote in message

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The manned space program is, and always has been, a military oriented
program. The civilian cover stories of the early rocket days became
institutionalized.

This is absolutely false.

Jeff

all the original boosters, were adapted military ICBMs. Spece was a
public way to show our capabilities. Heck someone even wated to
detoinate a NUKE on the moons surface facing earth

On Feb 5, 1:38*pm, bob haller safety advocate wrote:
On Feb 5, 7:13 am, "Jeff Findley" wrote:

"Jonathan" wrote in message

m...

The manned space program is, and always has been, a military oriented
program. The civilian cover stories of the early rocket days became
institutionalized.

This is absolutely false.

Jeff

all the original boosters, were adapted military ICBMs. Spece was a
public way to show our capabilities. Heck someone even wated to
detoinate a NUKE on the moons surface facing earth

So what? A lot of military developed equipment has useful civilian
applications. I drive a HUMMER...and then there's GPS...

And for what its worth, the Saturn boosters were not military in
origin.