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Old October 13th 06, 02:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Joe Bergeron wrote:
In article , Thierry wrote:

Hi,

Who could identify the astronaut and the mission ?

http://www.astrosurf.org/luxorion/Sc...et-closeup.jpg

Thanks you

Thierry-

Looks like Hollywood to me.

I agree...helmet looks old and worn - great for Hollywood, but I

didn't
think NASA ever re-used them (except on the same flight).

Could be training gear. The photo could be taken
on the ground at a training facility.


Not with a pitch black "sky" and a reflection of earth in the helmet.


I'm not sure that one can verify that that's a
reflection of Earth, and as for the dark background,
that could be caused by a simple high contrast
effect due to the use of a flash.


Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch on his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken, they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.

Austin

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Old October 13th 06, 02:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch on his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken, they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.


So what? Who said it was?


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Old October 13th 06, 02:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch on his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken, they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.


So what? Who said it was?


Well, you said:

Could be training gear. The photo could be taken
on the ground at a training facility.


What non-NASA training facility were you thinking of?

Austin

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Old October 13th 06, 03:15 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch on

his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken, they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.


So what? Who said it was?


Well, you said:

Could be training gear. The photo could be taken
on the ground at a training facility.


What non-NASA training facility were you thinking of?


What makes you think that official NASA photographers
are the only ones that own cameras? It could have been
taken by another team member, for example.


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Old October 13th 06, 05:07 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch on

his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken, they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.

So what? Who said it was?


Well, you said:

Could be training gear. The photo could be taken
on the ground at a training facility.


What non-NASA training facility were you thinking of?


What makes you think that official NASA photographers
are the only ones that own cameras? It could have been
taken by another team member, for example.


Not much of a phtographer, are you? Then again, you didn't claim to
be.

The person who took this was an exellent photographer. They were able
to very carefully set up soft lighting equipment that would light the
model's face from the front without glaring in the face mask or casting
shadows on the suit or helmet. Then, they set up something to reflect
in the face mask so that it would look like earth would if looked at
through an aproximately square window. This is *not* the source of the
light on the model's face; the light on his face is much warmer
(exactly what I would expect a really good photographer to do). They
also were able to light the suit and helmet with a very soft,
relatively cool light, without casting shadows on the model's face or
cooling the face light. All of the exposure levels of the different
lights are balanced (the "earth out the window" is deliberately
overexposed, as one might expect for a shot of an astronaut looking out
the window towards earth). This photographer really knew his work.

This is not a NASA photo. This is not a NASA team member's snapshot.
There is no way this was taken anywhere but a studio.

Austin

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Old October 13th 06, 06:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA

training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand

new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a

flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch

on
his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken,

they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have

been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that

way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.

So what? Who said it was?

Well, you said:

Could be training gear. The photo could be taken
on the ground at a training facility.

What non-NASA training facility were you thinking of?


What makes you think that official NASA photographers
are the only ones that own cameras? It could have been
taken by another team member, for example.


Not much of a phtographer, are you? Then again, you didn't claim to
be.

The person who took this was an exellent photographer. They were able
to very carefully set up soft lighting equipment that would light the
model's face from the front without glaring in the face mask or casting
shadows on the suit or helmet. Then, they set up something to reflect
in the face mask so that it would look like earth would if looked at
through an aproximately square window. This is *not* the source of the
light on the model's face; the light on his face is much warmer
(exactly what I would expect a really good photographer to do). They
also were able to light the suit and helmet with a very soft,
relatively cool light, without casting shadows on the model's face or
cooling the face light. All of the exposure levels of the different
lights are balanced (the "earth out the window" is deliberately
overexposed, as one might expect for a shot of an astronaut looking out
the window towards earth). This photographer really knew his work.

This is not a NASA photo. This is not a NASA team member's snapshot.
There is no way this was taken anywhere but a studio.


In your opinion.


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Old October 13th 06, 10:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
AustinMN
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Default Can u identify this astronaut ?


Greg Neill wrote:
"AustinMN" wrote in message
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Greg Neill wrote:
"AustinMN" wrote in message
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Greg Neill wrote:
"AustinMN" wrote in message
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Tell you what - find a single flash photograph from a NASA

training
facility. If you find one, it will be carefully posed with brand

new
props/uniforms/spacesuits. There is no way NASA would allow a

flash
photo (a.k.a. press photo) of any astronaut with a sewn-on patch

on
his
inner hood. If they made the mistake of allowing it to be taken,

they
would not let it get past the PR review.

Every picture I have ever seen from NASA training facilities have

been
taken with ambient light (and NASA takes a lot of pictures that

way).
Everything is always well lit.

This picture is a non-NASA production picture.

So what? Who said it was?

Well, you said:

Could be training gear. The photo could be taken
on the ground at a training facility.

What non-NASA training facility were you thinking of?

What makes you think that official NASA photographers
are the only ones that own cameras? It could have been
taken by another team member, for example.


Not much of a phtographer, are you? Then again, you didn't claim to
be.

The person who took this was an exellent photographer. They were able
to very carefully set up soft lighting equipment that would light the
model's face from the front without glaring in the face mask or casting
shadows on the suit or helmet. Then, they set up something to reflect
in the face mask so that it would look like earth would if looked at
through an aproximately square window. This is *not* the source of the
light on the model's face; the light on his face is much warmer
(exactly what I would expect a really good photographer to do). They
also were able to light the suit and helmet with a very soft,
relatively cool light, without casting shadows on the model's face or
cooling the face light. All of the exposure levels of the different
lights are balanced (the "earth out the window" is deliberately
overexposed, as one might expect for a shot of an astronaut looking out
the window towards earth). This photographer really knew his work.

This is not a NASA photo. This is not a NASA team member's snapshot.
There is no way this was taken anywhere but a studio.


In your opinion.


*plonk*

Austin

 




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