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  #491  
Old March 13th 07, 03:32 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?

Pat Flannery wrote:

:
:Jordan wrote:
: It's generally believed that Iran does not have nuclear weapons; the
: Iranians themselves claim not to possess any, and it would be to their
: benefit if they had any to publicize the fact. A secret deterrent
: does no good.
:
:Sometimes the unknown is the best deterrent of all.

Not really, unless you can convince people to believe the worst.

:Remember how coy Israel was about its nuclear arsenal.

They were coy, but everyone knew they had them.

:Pakistan also had quite a few weapons stockpiled before it detonated one.

Yep, because you need to have enough to be a deterrent before you try
to use them as a deterrent.

: In early 2003, most intelligence agencies believed that _Iraq_ was
: closer to acquiring nuclear weapons than was Iran.
:
:And we were wrong.

Really? When will Iran have a nuclear weapon?

:What happens if we are wrong on this also, and they do have four
:ex-Soviet nuclear weapons of some sort, as was reported in 1999?

Pretty much nothing, since they have no good way to get them to us.

:This is pretty high stakes poker.

Not really. If they intend them for a deterrent, they'd publicize
their existent. If they intend to use them, nothing we do will change
that.

:
: Are you arguing that Clinton _wasn't_ being weak for trying to stop
: the program by negotiation, or are you arguing that Bush 43 _is_ being
: weak for doing so?
:
:
:Bush's new proposal is basically the Clinton proposal all over again:
:they'd agreed to that, but Bush threw it in the garbage, and the only
:result was that they did indeed detonate a nuke.

Uh, that's somewhat revisionist, to say the least. The Clinton
proposal went in the garbage because the North Koreans refused to live
up to their side of it.


--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain
  #492  
Old March 13th 07, 03:37 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?


Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 10, 2:40 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : :On Mar 8, 10:40 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
: : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : :
: : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : :
: : : "Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
: : : "Scooter who? Never heard of him."
: : : "Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
: : : leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
: : : "Walter who? Never heard of him."
: : : "Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
: : : administration's failures in Iraq?"
: : : "Donald who? Never heard of him."
: : : "Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
: : : puppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
: : : doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
: : : world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
: : : "George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
: : : talks about my dad like that." :-)
: : :
: : :Makes me think of the presidents list as:
: : :
: : :Reagan
: : :Bush
: : :Clinton
: : :Bush
: : :Clinton
: : :
: : :Nothing is doing more to get another Clinton in the WH other than the
: : :current Bush.
: :
: : And nothing is doing more to keep her (and other Democrats) out than
: : idiots like the preceding. "I Hate George Bush And So Should You"
: : isn't considered an adequate statement of policy by most sane
: : people...
: :
: :Then a whole lot of insane people are going to shake up your world
: :beliefs.
:
: Not likely. I don't let idiots dictate my beliefs.
:
:Right, you are idiot enough to dicate them yourself.

I seldom dicate anything.


But it's those times you dick-take that is of question. Fool Freddy.
You...walked...right...in! Yeah, you're that transparent...

I believe in whole ideas, not nonsense
pieces such as you put forward.


Whole idea? Like what, Freddy? What is your like of a good whole idea?


:
: :At the rate you're going, you're going to welcome death as a way out.
: :Poor Freddy...
:
: See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?
:
:To whom are you posing the question to, Freddy?

You, El Chimpko. Don't you read plain English?


Only me? Then I pass...

:You act as if anyone
:actually reads your posts. You are quite alone.

I would certainly agree if I was only with you. But I'm not.


I make you interesting. Try posting without my rebuttals and see what
you get.

I'll simply note that I've had people killfile me solely because I
reply to you.


No, that is their excuse to get rid of you. It is at least 50-50,
probably I'm doing the others a favor to provide the convenient excuse
to do so. No doubt many are happy to see me gone, but you with me as
well.

I'd bet you've never had anyone killfile you for responding to me.


No they simply skip the post. Too bad you're not a nic guy, you'd have
a bigger audience.

That seems to tell the real story here...


What that this is your only social outlet and you're a jerk at it?
Freddy, you should meet all my friends...


Eric

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain


  #493  
Old March 13th 07, 03:46 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?


Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 10, 2:41 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : Pat Flannery wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : :
: : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : :
: : :
: : :"Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
: : :"Scooter who? Never heard of him."
: : :"Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
: : :leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
: : :"Walter who? Never heard of him."
: : :"Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
: : :administration's failures in Iraq?"
: : :"Donald who? Never heard of him."
: : :"Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
: : uppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
: : :doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
: : :world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
: : :"George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
: : :talks about my dad like that." :-)
: :
: : I repeat - Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your
: : fault.
: :
: :The fact that Pat has you repeating yourself is pure entertainment.
: :Poor Freddy...
:
: See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?
:
:Your rhetoric has sort of Norman Bates likeness to it. Do you answer
:your questions as well with one of your other personalities?

See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?



Is that ALL you have? You're barren, son! Done!

C'mon Freddy, did you never have a creative drive?


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn


  #494  
Old March 13th 07, 03:55 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: :On Mar 10, 2:40 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: : : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: : :
: : : :On Mar 8, 10:40 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
: : : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : :
: : : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : : :
: : : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : : :
: : : : "Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
: : : : "Scooter who? Never heard of him."
: : : : "Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
: : : : leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
: : : : "Walter who? Never heard of him."
: : : : "Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
: : : : administration's failures in Iraq?"
: : : : "Donald who? Never heard of him."
: : : : "Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
: : : : puppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
: : : : doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
: : : : world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
: : : : "George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
: : : : talks about my dad like that." :-)
: : : :
: : : :Makes me think of the presidents list as:
: : : :
: : : :Reagan
: : : :Bush
: : : :Clinton
: : : :Bush
: : : :Clinton
: : : :
: : : :Nothing is doing more to get another Clinton in the WH other than the
: : : :current Bush.
: : :
: : : And nothing is doing more to keep her (and other Democrats) out than
: : : idiots like the preceding. "I Hate George Bush And So Should You"
: : : isn't considered an adequate statement of policy by most sane
: : : people...
: : :
: : :Then a whole lot of insane people are going to shake up your world
: : :beliefs.
: :
: : Not likely. I don't let idiots dictate my beliefs.
: :
: :Right, you are idiot enough to dicate them yourself.
:
: I seldom dicate anything.
:
:But it's those times you dick-take that is of question. Fool Freddy.
:You...walked...right...in! Yeah, you're that transparent...

There goes Eric with his gay fantasies again.

How many times do I have to tell you, Eric, that no means no.

: I believe in whole ideas, not nonsense
: pieces such as you put forward.
:
:Whole idea? Like what, Freddy? What is your like of a good whole idea?

Eric Chomko is an idiot. That seems to be the whole of it.

: :
: : :At the rate you're going, you're going to welcome death as a way out.
: : :Poor Freddy...
: :
: : See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?
: :
: :To whom are you posing the question to, Freddy?
:
: You, El Chimpko. Don't you read plain English?
:
:Only me? Then I pass...

So you plead the 5th with regard to you being an idiot...

: :You act as if anyone
: :actually reads your posts. You are quite alone.
:
: I would certainly agree if I was only with you. But I'm not.
:
:I make you interesting. Try posting without my rebuttals and see what
:you get.

I know what I get. You went away for a while. The signal to noise
level of the group went up immensely.

: I'll simply note that I've had people killfile me solely because I
: reply to you.
:
:No, that is their excuse to get rid of you. It is at least 50-50,
robably I'm doing the others a favor to provide the convenient excuse
:to do so. No doubt many are happy to see me gone, but you with me as
:well.

Sure, Eric. Of course that's it...

: I'd bet you've never had anyone killfile you for responding to me.
:
:No they simply skip the post. Too bad you're not a nic guy, you'd have
:a bigger audience.

Now go back and look through your sequence of claims here.

: That seems to tell the real story here...
:
:What that this is your only social outlet and you're a jerk at it?
:Freddy, you should meet all my friends...

Why would anyone want to meet people who hang around with YOU?

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain
  #495  
Old March 13th 07, 03:58 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: :On Mar 10, 2:41 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: : : Pat Flannery wrote:
: : :
: : : :
: : : :
: : : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : :
: : : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : : :
: : : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : : :
: : : :
: : : :"Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
: : : :"Scooter who? Never heard of him."
: : : :"Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
: : : :leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
: : : :"Walter who? Never heard of him."
: : : :"Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
: : : :administration's failures in Iraq?"
: : : :"Donald who? Never heard of him."
: : : :"Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
: : : uppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
: : : :doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
: : : :world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
: : : :"George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
: : : :talks about my dad like that." :-)
: : :
: : : I repeat - Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your
: : : fault.
: : :
: : :The fact that Pat has you repeating yourself is pure entertainment.
: : :Poor Freddy...
: :
: : See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?
: :
: :Your rhetoric has sort of Norman Bates likeness to it. Do you answer
: :your questions as well with one of your other personalities?
:
: See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?
:
:Is that ALL you have? You're barren, son! Done!
:
:C'mon Freddy, did you never have a creative drive?

See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?

--
"No one can have a higher opinion of him than I have; and I
think he's a dirty little beast."
-- W. S. Gilbert
  #496  
Old March 13th 07, 04:37 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko
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Posts: 2,630
Default Bye-bye INF treaty?


Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 10, 2:40 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : :On Mar 8, 10:40 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
: : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : :
: : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : :
: : : "Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
: : : "Scooter who? Never heard of him."
: : : "Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
: : : leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
: : : "Walter who? Never heard of him."
: : : "Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
: : : administration's failures in Iraq?"
: : : "Donald who? Never heard of him."
: : : "Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
: : : puppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
: : : doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
: : : world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
: : : "George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
: : : talks about my dad like that." :-)
: : :
: : :Makes me think of the presidents list as:
: : :
: : :Reagan
: : :Bush
: : :Clinton
: : :Bush
: : :Clinton
: : :
: : :Nothing is doing more to get another Clinton in the WH other than the
: : :current Bush.
: :
: : And nothing is doing more to keep her (and other Democrats) out than
: : idiots like the preceding. "I Hate George Bush And So Should You"
: : isn't considered an adequate statement of policy by most sane
: : people...
: :
: :Then a whole lot of insane people are going to shake up your world
: :beliefs.
:
: Not likely. I don't let idiots dictate my beliefs.
:
:Right, you are idiot enough to dicate them yourself.

I seldom dicate anything.


But it's those times you dick-take that is of question. Fool Freddy.
You...walked...right...in! Yeah, you're that transparent...

I believe in whole ideas, not nonsense
pieces such as you put forward.


Whole idea? Like what, Freddy? What is your like of a good whole idea?


:
: :At the rate you're going, you're going to welcome death as a way out.
: :Poor Freddy...
:
: See what I mean about you being an idiot, El Chimpko?
:
:To whom are you posing the question to, Freddy?

You, El Chimpko. Don't you read plain English?


Only me? Then I pass...

:You act as if anyone
:actually reads your posts. You are quite alone.

I would certainly agree if I was only with you. But I'm not.


I make you interesting. Try posting without my rebuttals and see what
you get.

I'll simply note that I've had people killfile me solely because I
reply to you.


No, that is their excuse to get rid of you. It is at least 50-50,
probably I'm doing the others a favor to provide the convenient excuse
to do so. No doubt many are happy to see me gone, but you with me as
well.

I'd bet you've never had anyone killfile you for responding to me.


No they simply skip the post. Too bad you're not a nic guy, you'd have
a bigger audience.

That seems to tell the real story here...


What that this is your only social outlet and you're a jerk at it?
Freddy, you should meet all my friends...


Eric

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain


  #497  
Old March 13th 07, 05:35 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko
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Posts: 2,630
Default Bye-bye INF treaty?

Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 10, 2:47 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : :On Mar 8, 1:30 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : Pat Flannery wrote:
: : :
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : :
: : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : :
: : :And you lack a sense of humor.
: :
: : Not at all. I just don't find most political idiocy 'funny'.
: :
: :One's political idiocy is another's political humor.
:
: Not really. It's either funny or it isn't. This sort of stupidity
: isn't.
:
:That is your opinion, Freddy. Again you flunk Empathy 101.
:I can understand how you don't see it as funny, but you can't claim
:universally that it isn't funny to others.

It's funny to idiots. No doubt you find it hilarious.


No, only you, sick, sick, Freddy...


:
: :Geez McClod,
: :didn't they teach you a sense of empathy in the Navy?
:
: No, my job was to kill people and break ****.
:
:LA cop? You could be one.

Can't you even keep the thread from one sentence of yours to the next?
Hint: "...in the Navy" is not "LA cop".


Interchangable from where I sit. Do you still do the work for the
highest bidder?
You're a chump, Freddy, working for chump change.

: :Or were you napping?
:
: As frequently as possible. The fact that you even ask merely further
: indicates your ignorance about the real military, where happiness can
: frequently be composed of merely getting sufficient sleep.
:
:Life in general can be that way as well. Other jobs, too.

You have no idea. The fact that you make the preceding statement
simply shows that you don't know what you're talking about.


Life and death is ONLY on the battlefield? Are you that naive, or
simply un-streetwise?
F-U, Freddy. I can die just as easily on the street of any major city
in the USA as I can on a foreign battlefield.

Do you know the street, Freddy, Wigger?

: :Maybe your folks were deficient?
:
: My folks weren't in the Navy.
:
:So you're owning up to you own deficiency? Well that's a start...

So you're making **** up again? Well that's business as usual...


Making **** up? There is more **** up than I can make up, you
knucklehead.
Freddy rears his ignorant head once again...


: However, if we assume your problem is congenital, it seems obvious
: that your folks were defectives.
:
:I'll bet my folks' certifications against your folks'. You seem to
:take pride in being certified as being sane; I'll take my folks
:education creds over anything you can produce about your folks. My
:mother was third in her class. Do your mother even go to college?

Of course. In Germany, where it's a bit harder than here.


In Germany?! Where I spent 8 of my first 18 years? Your mom took the
same schooling I, the stupid fool, did? Hahahahahaha. You're mama's
and my education, the same background. hahahah

Did you hate your mother, too?

Poor, Freddy...

: :VICES, McClod. V for vitality, I for intelligence, C for courage, E
: :for empathy, and S for sympathy. Don't get hung up on the acronym,
: :it'll only short your brain.
: :
: :Perhaps you're only a "VIC" or less?
:
: The more stupid **** you make up the stupider you look, Eric.
:
:Sorry this went over your head. You truly are limited to math and
:science aren't you?

It didn't 'go over my head'. I just thought it was stupid, since I'm
not 20 and haven't been for a long time. Another 'non-funny joke'.


20? Yes a REAAAALLLL long time ago. Too bad you can't re-experience
20, old Freddy...
It would do you a world of good.

:What is stupid here is your inability to look at everything in a way
:as a means to learn something. You pick and choose in a limiting way,
:and in that regard I have you beat ten-fold. Poor Freddy, learned one
:way to learn and never learned how to improve on that single way.

Again, there is a difference between having an open mind and having a
hole in your head.


Clearly the holes in my head work just fine and you're an old fart.

Everything is not a 'learning experience' because
sometimes there is nothing to learn.


And that in and of itself is the thing to learn... Are you really this
shallow? Dim? Non-passionate? Passion, Freddy? Did you ever have
passion in your life? Clearly it is gone now...

And to the fictious entity Freddy likes to appeal to; does passion not
rate? Am I really off base discussing passion? Or maybe that is more
important than intellect? One wonders...


For example, the only thing to be learned from discussion with you is
that you are an idiot.


Hah, but you lack passion when you say it! Chump!

Call me stupid, an idiot, but if you can't do it with passion, then
shame on ya!

Wait now....while I dig deep, way down, deep inside, like Ray Charles,
Aretha Franklin, the godfather of soul himself, get down, James
Brown... ... Freddy, you're dead, like the song by Curtis Mayfield.

Ba boom, boom, boomp, ba boom, boom, boomp, ba boom, boom, boomp, ba
boom-ba-loom, boomp...

Hey, hey. Here what I say. Freddy's dead...

Everybody's abused him, ripped him off and abused him, Freddy's
dead....

Freddy's on the corner now...

: :
: : :But perhaps you can't help that being a
: : :closed rather than an open person.
: :
: : There's a difference between having an open mind and having a hole in
: : your head, Eric. You demonstrate the latter quite nicely...
: :
: :Perhaps you DO have a sense of humor as I did smile when I read the
: :last sentence.
:
: I don't know why. It's an old, tired joke.
:
:Perhaps the joke is just fine and you are old and tired?

Perhaps you should stop trying so hard until you actually grow a sense
of humour?


That makes me laugh...

:
: :Fine, holes in my head, anything to have you have a
: :sense of humor. You're learning Freddy.
:
: All the time, but never from you.
:
:Right, because you choose not to. How stupid!

No, because there is nothing to learn from that source other than that
that source is an adamantine idiot.


No wit, Freddy, being dead and all...

: :When this is all over you
: :might actually become a real human being instead of a terminally
: edantic ass which no one wants to be around.
:
: What 'this' do you stupidly think is going on, Eric?
:
:I am teaching you to have an open mind despite you consciously
:fighting it.

You really ARE deluded, aren't you?


No. You're simply that impassionate. You NEED the likes of me to kick
you in your arse.

: :Wanna bet who people want to talk to at your dinner party. When was
: :the last time you hosted a dinner party? Invited to one? Be honest...
:
: I've never cared for dinner parties, so I don't have them. I stick to
: things I enjoy. I have the luxury of doing that, you see.
:
:You imply I don't? I have the luxury of choosing what I like as well,
:and I choose to be socialable. Sorry that you don't.

I didn't imply anything. However, you make an outright stupidly
incorrect statement, above.


Yeah, you know how to win friends....
Bob Cratchet has you beat for passion.

You a dry-drunk, Freddy? A 12-stepper? I could empathize with that...

: Why would I want to host a dinner party, El Chimpko?
:
:Entertain friends and vice versa, socialize, etc.

You know, I don't think I even know anyone who does 'dinner parties'.


Sad, really...

Those went out long ago. I'm sorry that you're so limited that you
think this is the only way to 'socialize'.


The only way? Who said that?

The word, Freddy, is "passion". Work on it...


Eric


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson


  #498  
Old March 13th 07, 05:46 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 12, 3:28 pm, (Rand Simberg)
:wrote:
: On 12 Mar 2007 12:23:35 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Jordan"
: made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
: a way as to indicate that:
:
: :About euros vs. dollars, who conspired and how? Do tell. I mean you
: :have this idea about how I have a conspiracy theory. What is it? What
: :does it look like to you?
:
: The claim that this was the root of the Iraq war, of course. Pure
: paranoid conspiracy theory...
:
: It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
: countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
: hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).
:
: What evidence do you have that this was one of our reasons for
: invading Iraq?
:
: He has no evidence. Just a loony conspiracy theory by a leftist
: professor at Berkeley.
:
:Rand practicing censorship. Why don't you debate the professor on your
:blog? I dare you!

Jesus, are you stupid. How is not providing this Loon From
Berzerkeley a forum in a blog that isn't related to oil, economics, or
loons "practicing censorship"?


What is Rand's blog related to if not oil and politics?


Rand isn't stopping this guy from speaking.


No, Rand inserts his bias rather than recommends the reader, Jordan
(who is smart enough to dedcide for himself), read and decide for
himself. We are supposed to take Rand's take of it and and leave it at
that.

Censorship is preventing someone from speaking.


Or from others reading someone else. If Rand forbids me to read your
posts and can prevent me from doing so, then that is censorship.

Free speech does not mean you have the right
to force anyone to listen and it doesn't mean you can come into
someone's home or business and **** in the water cooler...


No ****, Sherlock. No one I know that is against censorship feels the
need to invade someone's home or business. No, that is for the
proponents of censorship.

--
"I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right
to say it."
-- Voltaire



Voltaire is my friend like Google is your friend...

Eric

  #499  
Old March 13th 07, 05:55 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?


Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 10, 2:49 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: :About euros vs. dollars, who conspired and how? Do tell. I mean you
: :have this idea about how I have a conspiracy theory. What is it? What
: :does it look like to you?
: :
:
: The claim that this was the root of the Iraq war, of course. Pure
: paranoid conspiracy theory...
:
:
:It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
:countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
:hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).

This is the stupidest idea that I've heard about what 'caused' the
Iraq war.


No, that would be your mama.


:A "fake" cause is the
:claim that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

I'll simply note that this is a 'claim' that I've only heard from
liberals and Democrats.


Dick Cheney is a liberal Democrat? No, that is my mama.

Rather like the threat of a military draft that only ever comes from Charlie Rangel.


Yeah, the Dems give you something about via their draft.
It's called, "calling your bluff", imbecile.

Why don't you create a real, good war and see him take credit. Until
then, I listen to you about it...

Eric

--
"His ignorance is encyclopedic."
-- Abba Eban


  #500  
Old March 13th 07, 05:55 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)
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For the love of god you two (Eric and Fred) if you're not going to shut up,
TRIM YOUR DAMN QUOTES.


 




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