Bye-bye INF treaty?

Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 12, 3:28 pm, (Rand Simberg)
:wrote:
: On 12 Mar 2007 12:23:35 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Jordan"
: made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
: a way as to indicate that:
:
: :About euros vs. dollars, who conspired and how? Do tell. I mean you
: :have this idea about how I have a conspiracy theory. What is it? What
: :does it look like to you?
:
: The claim that this was the root of the Iraq war, of course. Pure
: paranoid conspiracy theory...
:
: It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
: countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
: hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).
:
: What evidence do you have that this was one of our reasons for
: invading Iraq?
:
: He has no evidence. Just a loony conspiracy theory by a leftist
: professor at Berkeley.
:
:Rand practicing censorship. Why don't you debate the professor on your
:blog? I dare you!

Jesus, are you stupid. How is not providing this Loon From
Berzerkeley a forum in a blog that isn't related to oil, economics, or
loons "practicing censorship"?

What is Rand's blog related to if not oil and politics?


Rand isn't stopping this guy from speaking.

No, Rand inserts his bias rather than recommends the reader, Jordan
(who is smart enough to dedcide for himself), read and decide for
himself. We are supposed to take Rand's take of it and and leave it at
that.

Censorship is preventing someone from speaking.

Or from others reading someone else. If Rand forbids me to read your
posts and can prevent me from doing so, then that is censorship.

Free speech does not mean you have the right
to force anyone to listen and it doesn't mean you can come into
someone's home or business and **** in the water cooler...

No ****, Sherlock. No one I know that is against censorship feels the
need to invade someone's home or business. No, that is for the
proponents of censorship.

--
"I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right
to say it."
-- Voltaire


Voltaire is my friend like Google is your friend...

Eric

Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 10, 2:49 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: :About euros vs. dollars, who conspired and how? Do tell. I mean you
: :have this idea about how I have a conspiracy theory. What is it? What
: :does it look like to you?
: :
:
: The claim that this was the root of the Iraq war, of course. Pure
: paranoid conspiracy theory...
:
:
:It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
:countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
:hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).

This is the stupidest idea that I've heard about what 'caused' the
Iraq war.

No, that would be your mama.


:A "fake" cause is the
:claim that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

I'll simply note that this is a 'claim' that I've only heard from
liberals and Democrats.

Dick Cheney is a liberal Democrat? No, that is my mama.

Rather like the threat of a military draft that only ever comes from Charlie Rangel.

Yeah, the Dems give you something about via their draft.
It's called, "calling your bluff", imbecile.

Why don't you create a real, good war and see him take credit. Until
then, I listen to you about it...

Eric

--
"His ignorance is encyclopedic."
-- Abba Eban

For the love of god you two (Eric and Fred) if you're not going to shut up,
TRIM YOUR DAMN QUOTES.

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
:Rand Simberg wrote:
: On 12 Mar 2007 12:49:15 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
: made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
: a way as to indicate that:
:
: It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
: countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
: hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).
:
: What evidence do you have that this was one of our reasons for
: invading Iraq?
:
: He has no evidence. Just a loony conspiracy theory by a leftist
: professor at Berkeley.
:
: Rand practicing censorship.
:
: How did I do that?
:
:So we should read the leftty loony professor from Berkeley or not?

Poor Eric. He doesn't know what 'censorship' means...

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: :On Mar 12, 3:28 pm, (Rand Simberg)
: :wrote:
: : On 12 Mar 2007 12:23:35 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Jordan"
: : made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
: : a way as to indicate that:
: :
: : :About euros vs. dollars, who conspired and how? Do tell. I mean you
: : :have this idea about how I have a conspiracy theory. What is it? What
: : :does it look like to you?
: :
: : The claim that this was the root of the Iraq war, of course. Pure
: : paranoid conspiracy theory...
: :
: : It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
: : countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
: : hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).
: :
: : What evidence do you have that this was one of our reasons for
: : invading Iraq?
: :
: : He has no evidence. Just a loony conspiracy theory by a leftist
: : professor at Berkeley.
: :
: :Rand practicing censorship. Why don't you debate the professor on your
: :blog? I dare you!
:
: Jesus, are you stupid. How is not providing this Loon From
: Berzerkeley a forum in a blog that isn't related to oil, economics, or
: loons "practicing censorship"?
:
:What is Rand's blog related to if not oil and politics?

Hell if I know. I don't read it. I'd assumed it was related to
space. You know, what this newsgroup is SUPPOSED to be about...

:
: Rand isn't stopping this guy from speaking.
:
:No, Rand inserts his bias rather than recommends the reader, Jordan
who is smart enough to dedcide for himself), read and decide for
:himself. We are supposed to take Rand's take of it and and leave it at
:that.

Why should anyone, Rand included, recommend Jordan (or anyone else) go
read someone who is making loony statements?

: Censorship is preventing someone from speaking.
:
:Or from others reading someone else. If Rand forbids me to read your
osts and can prevent me from doing so, then that is censorship.

Note the second part there - "and can prevent me from doing so". He
can't, so your 'charge' that he is "practicing censorship" is just a
lie.

: Free speech does not mean you have the right
: to force anyone to listen and it doesn't mean you can come into
: someone's home or business and **** in the water cooler...
:
:No ****, Sherlock. No one I know that is against censorship feels the
:need to invade someone's home or business. No, that is for the
roponents of censorship.

And yet you're accusing someone of censorship on what basis, again?

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: :On Mar 10, 2:49 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: : :
: : :About euros vs. dollars, who conspired and how? Do tell. I mean you
: : :have this idea about how I have a conspiracy theory. What is it? What
: : :does it look like to you?
: : :
: :
: : The claim that this was the root of the Iraq war, of course. Pure
: : paranoid conspiracy theory...
: :
: :
: :It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
: :countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
: :hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).
:
: This is the stupidest idea that I've heard about what 'caused' the
: Iraq war.
:
:No, that would be your mama.

Just the sort of remark we've come to expect from Eric...

:
: :A "fake" cause is the
: :claim that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.
:
: I'll simply note that this is a 'claim' that I've only heard from
: liberals and Democrats.
:
ick Cheney is a liberal Democrat? No, that is my mama.

Dick Cheney is your mama?

Just where has Dick Cheney ever claimed that "Iraq had something to do
with 9/11". Be specific.

: Rather like the threat of a military draft that only ever comes from Charlie Rangel.
:
:Yeah, the Dems give you something about via their draft.
:It's called, "calling your bluff", imbecile.

What 'bluff' are they calling? Nobody is asking for a draft.

:Why don't you create a real, good war and see him take credit. Until
:then, I listen to you about it...

Eric, you're sounding less and less lucid. You should get some sleep
and take the nice medicine like a good boy...

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

The following from El Chimpko is too incoherent for words. I didn't
wade all the way through it. Neither should anyone else.

Eric, get some help...

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: :On Mar 10, 2:47 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : ::Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: : : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: : :
: : : :On Mar 8, 1:30 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : : Pat Flannery wrote:
: : : :
: : : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Torture our prisoners!"
: : : : :"Sir, yes sir!"
: : : : :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
: : : :
: : : : Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
: : : :
: : : :And you lack a sense of humor.
: : :
: : : Not at all. I just don't find most political idiocy 'funny'.
: : :
: : :One's political idiocy is another's political humor.
: :
: : Not really. It's either funny or it isn't. This sort of stupidity
: : isn't.
: :
: :That is your opinion, Freddy. Again you flunk Empathy 101.
: :I can understand how you don't see it as funny, but you can't claim
: :universally that it isn't funny to others.
:
: It's funny to idiots. No doubt you find it hilarious.
:
:No, only you, sick, sick, Freddy...
:
:
: :
: : :Geez McClod,
: : :didn't they teach you a sense of empathy in the Navy?
: :
: : No, my job was to kill people and break ****.
: :
: :LA cop? You could be one.
:
: Can't you even keep the thread from one sentence of yours to the next?
: Hint: "...in the Navy" is not "LA cop".
:
:Interchangable from where I sit. Do you still do the work for the
:highest bidder?
:You're a chump, Freddy, working for chump change.
:
: : :Or were you napping?
: :
: : As frequently as possible. The fact that you even ask merely further
: : indicates your ignorance about the real military, where happiness can
: : frequently be composed of merely getting sufficient sleep.
: :
: :Life in general can be that way as well. Other jobs, too.
:
: You have no idea. The fact that you make the preceding statement
: simply shows that you don't know what you're talking about.
:
:Life and death is ONLY on the battlefield? Are you that naive, or
:simply un-streetwise?
:F-U, Freddy. I can die just as easily on the street of any major city
:in the USA as I can on a foreign battlefield.
:
o you know the street, Freddy, Wigger?
:
: : :Maybe your folks were deficient?
: :
: : My folks weren't in the Navy.
: :
: :So you're owning up to you own deficiency? Well that's a start...
:
: So you're making **** up again? Well that's business as usual...
:
:Making **** up? There is more **** up than I can make up, you
:knucklehead.
:Freddy rears his ignorant head once again...
:
:
: : However, if we assume your problem is congenital, it seems obvious
: : that your folks were defectives.
: :
: :I'll bet my folks' certifications against your folks'. You seem to
: :take pride in being certified as being sane; I'll take my folks
: :education creds over anything you can produce about your folks. My
: :mother was third in her class. Do your mother even go to college?
:
: Of course. In Germany, where it's a bit harder than here.
:
:In Germany?! Where I spent 8 of my first 18 years? Your mom took the
:same schooling I, the stupid fool, did? Hahahahahaha. You're mama's
:and my education, the same background. hahahah
:
id you hate your mother, too?
:
:Poor, Freddy...
:
: : :VICES, McClod. V for vitality, I for intelligence, C for courage, E
: : :for empathy, and S for sympathy. Don't get hung up on the acronym,
: : :it'll only short your brain.
: : :
: : :Perhaps you're only a "VIC" or less?
: :
: : The more stupid **** you make up the stupider you look, Eric.
: :
: :Sorry this went over your head. You truly are limited to math and
: :science aren't you?
:
: It didn't 'go over my head'. I just thought it was stupid, since I'm
: not 20 and haven't been for a long time. Another 'non-funny joke'.
:
:20? Yes a REAAAALLLL long time ago. Too bad you can't re-experience
:20, old Freddy...
:It would do you a world of good.
:
: :What is stupid here is your inability to look at everything in a way
: :as a means to learn something. You pick and choose in a limiting way,
: :and in that regard I have you beat ten-fold. Poor Freddy, learned one
: :way to learn and never learned how to improve on that single way.
:
: Again, there is a difference between having an open mind and having a
: hole in your head.
:
:Clearly the holes in my head work just fine and you're an old fart.
:
: Everything is not a 'learning experience' because
: sometimes there is nothing to learn.
:
:And that in and of itself is the thing to learn... Are you really this
:shallow? Dim? Non-passionate? Passion, Freddy? Did you ever have
assion in your life? Clearly it is gone now...
:
:And to the fictious entity Freddy likes to appeal to; does passion not
:rate? Am I really off base discussing passion? Or maybe that is more
:important than intellect? One wonders...
:
:
: For example, the only thing to be learned from discussion with you is
: that you are an idiot.
:
:Hah, but you lack passion when you say it! Chump!
:
:Call me stupid, an idiot, but if you can't do it with passion, then
:shame on ya!
:
:Wait now....while I dig deep, way down, deep inside, like Ray Charles,
:Aretha Franklin, the godfather of soul himself, get down, James
:Brown... ... Freddy, you're dead, like the song by Curtis Mayfield.
:
:Ba boom, boom, boomp, ba boom, boom, boomp, ba boom, boom, boomp, ba
:boom-ba-loom, boomp...
:
:Hey, hey. Here what I say. Freddy's dead...
:
:Everybody's abused him, ripped him off and abused him, Freddy's
:dead....
:
:Freddy's on the corner now...
:
: : :
: : : :But perhaps you can't help that being a
: : : :closed rather than an open person.
: : :
: : : There's a difference between having an open mind and having a hole in
: : : your head, Eric. You demonstrate the latter quite nicely...
: : :
: : :Perhaps you DO have a sense of humor as I did smile when I read the
: : :last sentence.
: :
: : I don't know why. It's an old, tired joke.
: :
: :Perhaps the joke is just fine and you are old and tired?
:
: Perhaps you should stop trying so hard until you actually grow a sense
: of humour?
:
:That makes me laugh...
:
: :
: : :Fine, holes in my head, anything to have you have a
: : :sense of humor. You're learning Freddy.
: :
: : All the time, but never from you.
: :
: :Right, because you choose not to. How stupid!
:
: No, because there is nothing to learn from that source other than that
: that source is an adamantine idiot.
:
:No wit, Freddy, being dead and all...
:
: : :When this is all over you
: : :might actually become a real human being instead of a terminally
: : edantic ass which no one wants to be around.
: :
: : What 'this' do you stupidly think is going on, Eric?
: :
: :I am teaching you to have an open mind despite you consciously
: :fighting it.
:
: You really ARE deluded, aren't you?
:
:No. You're simply that impassionate. You NEED the likes of me to kick
:you in your arse.
:
: : :Wanna bet who people want to talk to at your dinner party. When was
: : :the last time you hosted a dinner party? Invited to one? Be honest...
: :
: : I've never cared for dinner parties, so I don't have them. I stick to
: : things I enjoy. I have the luxury of doing that, you see.
: :
: :You imply I don't? I have the luxury of choosing what I like as well,
: :and I choose to be socialable. Sorry that you don't.
:
: I didn't imply anything. However, you make an outright stupidly
: incorrect statement, above.
:
:Yeah, you know how to win friends....
:Bob Cratchet has you beat for passion.
:
:You a dry-drunk, Freddy? A 12-stepper? I could empathize with that...
:
: : Why would I want to host a dinner party, El Chimpko?
: :
: :Entertain friends and vice versa, socialize, etc.
:
: You know, I don't think I even know anyone who does 'dinner parties'.
:
:Sad, really...
:
: Those went out long ago. I'm sorry that you're so limited that you
: think this is the only way to 'socialize'.
:
:The only way? Who said that?
:
:The word, Freddy, is "passion". Work on it...
:
:
:Eric
:
:
: --
: "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
: truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
: -- Thomas Jefferson

"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote:

:
:For the love of god you two (Eric and Fred) if you're not going to shut up,
:TRIM YOUR DAMN QUOTES.
:

Your newsreader doesn't have a 'Next' key?

--
"Well, I met a girl in West Hollywood. I ain't naming names.
She really worked me over good. She was just like Jesse James.
She really worked me over good. She was a credit to her gender.
She put me through some changes, Lord.
Sort of like a Waring blender."
-- Warren Zevon, "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me"

On 12 Mar 2007 21:46:43 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

Jesus, are you stupid. How is not providing this Loon From
Berzerkeley a forum in a blog that isn't related to oil, economics, or
loons "practicing censorship"?

What is Rand's blog related to if not oil and politics?

Many things, you moron, not that it has anything to do with the topic.

Censorship is preventing someone from speaking.

Or from others reading someone else. If Rand forbids me to read your
posts and can prevent me from doing so, then that is censorship.

But I can't, and I don't, so it's not, you moron.

On 12 Mar 2007 21:37:24 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:


Rand Simberg wrote:
On 12 Mar 2007 12:49:15 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

It was one of the "real" causes of the Iraq war. Can't have OPEC
countries accepting anything but dollars, or else someone could get
hurt (to borrow from the likes of Tony Soprano).

What evidence do you have that this was one of our reasons for
invading Iraq?

He has no evidence. Just a loony conspiracy theory by a leftist
professor at Berkeley.

Rand practicing censorship.

How did I do that?

So we should read the leftty loony professor from Berkeley or not?

If you want a laugh, go ahead. But my telling you that you shouldn't
isn't "censorship," except to idiots who don't know the meaning of the
word.