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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
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"rk" wrote in message ... "Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007" Peter B. de Selding, Paris Multiple defects in hardware and software have been found in Europe's unmanned space tug and will delay the launch of the 20,000-kilogram vehicle to the international space station by at least a year to May 2007, according to European government and industry officials. -- end excerpt -- -- rk, Just an OldEngineer "The number of people having any connection with the project must be restricted in an almost vicious manner. Use a small number of good people." From Skunk Works by Ben Rich and Leo Janis |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
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Don't know the original source, but here's one reference: Meanwhile, the ESA has experienced some delays of its own. The s first Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV), an unmanned cargo ship designed to resupply the ISS, will not launch toward the space station until at least May 2007 after inspections turned up multiple hardware and software problems. http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...fifthyear.html |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
Jim Kingdon wrote:
Meanwhile, the ESA has experienced some delays of its own. The s first Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV), an unmanned cargo ship designed to resupply the ISS, will not launch toward the space station until at least May 2007 after inspections turned up multiple hardware and software problems. Considering it is already late (should have launched first in 2004), this is terrible news. But not surprising since most new vehicles tend to have such delays. Puts the russian delays for Zvezda into perspective. However, the space.com artile just casually mentions the delay without pointing to a formal announcement by ESA. So this may be a leak that has not yet been confirmed. There is an interesting article about the automation and software/hardware redudancy at: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ATV/SEMSEV5Y3EE_0.html There is no remote control of ATV possible. There will be remotely triggered "Hold, Retreat, Escape or Abort" That article. dated oct 12, makes no mention of innaugural flight. The ESA web site doesn't have any recent news releases about such a one year delay. And many of its web pages still mention first launch in 2006. |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:22:35 -0500, John Doe wrote:
Meanwhile, the ESA has experienced some delays of its own. The s first Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV), an unmanned cargo ship designed to resupply the ISS, will not launch toward the space station until at least May 2007 Considering it is already late (should have launched first in 2004), this is terrible news. And a year ago, pundits were questioning which would fly first, STS-114 or Jules Verne. Oops. But not surprising since most new vehicles tend to have such delays. Puts the russian delays for Zvezda into perspective. Zvezda wasn't a new design. Funny how NASA can't do anything right in your book, but Zvezda and ATV are "not surprising" and there has been a deafening silence from you about the Soyuz TMA-6 near-miss. Spaceflight is hard. Period. Brian |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ATV/SEMSEV5Y3EE_0.html
Thanks. This is quite informative (though it does kind of read like a "here's why we're late" document). |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
Brian Thorn wrote:
Zvezda wasn't a new design. Funny how NASA can't do anything right in your book, but Zvezda and ATV are "not surprising" and there has been a deafening silence from you about the Soyuz TMA-6 near-miss. Whis is why I said that it put Zvezda's delays into perspective. At the time, US politicians were extremely critical of russia being unreliable, late, underfunded etc etc and that it shouldn't have been on the critical path. But everyone has delays. As I recall, the shuttle was also late by a few years for its first flight (isn't that why Skylab couldn't be saved ?) One that is interesting is HTV. Interesting because so little is known about it in terms of readyness status and planned launch date. is it still vapourware, or is there real hardware and launch vehicles close to being ready ? With the future of shuttle being debated, an ATV launch in spring 2006 might make it a lot easier for the USA to scale back or end the shuttle right there and then. Delaying ATV will help justify continued shuttle operation by making ATV look even more unrealiable than the russians. An consider that CEV is also likely to be delayed if it actually proceeds to completion. |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
With the future of shuttle being debated, an ATV launch in spring 2006
might make it a lot easier for the USA to scale back or end the shuttle right there and then. Delaying ATV will help justify continued shuttle operation by making ATV look even more unrealiable than the russians. I would think it would give NASA the chance to let the shuttle launch the modules which were designed to launch on shuttle, rather than doing logistics with shuttle. Unless something changes, it looks like significant parts of the station will remain on the ground in Florida permanently. Although the big catch with ATV is flight rate. It is a pretty capable vehicle (large payload and all), but last I heard, it wasn't going to be financially feasible to fly it very often (something like once every 12-18 months is my recollection). |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
On or about Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:36:37 -0600, Brian Thorn made the sensational claim that:
And a year ago, pundits were questioning which would fly first, STS-114 or Jules Verne. Oops. I've wondered what the point in naming an unmanned single use cargo vehicle was since I first heard the name. Is it specific to the first example, or a program name like "Apollo"? -- This is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | Just because something It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | is possible, doesn't No person, none, care | and it will reach me | mean it can happen |
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Defects Push Back Lauch of Europe's ATV Until May 2007
I've wondered what the point in naming an unmanned single use cargo
vehicle was since I first heard the name. Is it specific to the first example, or a program name like "Apollo"? Given how infrequently the ATV will fly, it won't seem like too much for them to have names ;-(. There's at least some precedent for naming single use vehicles: Individual US capsules in the 60s at least had nicknames (snoopy, charlie brown, liberty, etc). Although I guess they were staffed, so maybe that makes it a bit different... And yes, Jules Verne is the first ATV, not a name for the whole ATV series. |
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